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How is aspas the "goat"?

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#1
groomer

Despite everyone calling him this, he has never MVPed in a single international event or even gotten top 5 rating except in Masters 1 reykjavik. Tell me how this guy is the goat again?

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annoybrocc02
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name one player who has been more consistent

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groomer
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Leo

#48
UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe
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Baiter

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milostoj
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Well yea Leo is really good and consistent, but he is on that highest level since last year really (yea Guild existed but noone cares really)
Aspas on the other hand feels like the best player in the world since he joined LOUD back in the early 2022.
While I feel like Leo, Chronicle and others are in the talks, I see aspas as the goat

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Gutssz
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downvotes are crazy

he was even goat with Guild

#10
ilovefrozenblueberries
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yay, no explanation needed

#14
lLoveMen
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Blud stuck in 2022

#16
ilovefrozenblueberries
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nah look at his vlr page its almost all one color for the past year

#18
Macdaddy_Val
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he did say consistent

#69
Kirako
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he is consistent, just look he is consistently losing and previously he was consistenlty winning, hes on both sides of consistency

#71
nobody___100
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he's consistently consistent

#23
lLoveMen
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lmaooo

#31
sentinelmain377
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LMFAOOOOOOOO
W of the year: ilovefrozenblueberries

#41
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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W consistency from yay

#42
hemmy
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Oh hell nah 💀💀

#51
FNS_KITTEN
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thats FUCCCKKKEDDD

#17
ersagaswdgsadghagtdsg
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wdym??? yay is consistent... consistently failing!!!!!!!!!

#37
qweacn
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.

#55
merciless-pity8989-89
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Chronicle

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sentinelmain377
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tad bit overrated tbh
but still best player in the game

#4
valkin
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??? his consistency as a top 3 duelist itw,

no duelist has had his consistency its not that confusing

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sentinelmain377
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Leo's consistency as best initiator (top 1) for 1.5 years compared to Aspas's consistency as top 3 duelist for 2.5 years

Leo was also good in 2021 and 2022 (GUILD just wasnt the best team, but Sayf & Leo were gods)

who's the goat between these 2?

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valkin
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yap yap yap

aspas is the goat duelist idgaf about initiator

#26
SomeoneLikeU
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Initiator is a lot easier to be consistent on, you just have to use util but with duelist you need to get kills, take space, entry and not die before any of that.

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sentinelmain377
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hard to compare the following 2 things, but:

Leo has also been 2nd caller on FNATIC and has god-like communication
Multiple coaches also say that Leo is the perfect player, 0 mistakes, etc

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dapada
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lmao initiator is a lot harder than duelist bro what are you on?

#5
SmartPerson
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you must be blind or have alzheimer

#43
inCDS
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this.

#8
youngdagger
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Been a top 5 duelist every year, not a one trick, won an international event and continued to perform across multiple rosters. You can make arguments for who's had the highest peak, but he's been the most consistent duelist

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groomer
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But how can you achieve "goat" status without a single MVP to your name?

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MrCrespito
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MVP means nothing, it doesnt guarantee you anything, look at zeek where is he now? look at yay struggling in apac, look at suygetsu underperforming this year, while aspas has been consistent since the start

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groomer
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Lol yes mvp means something. If you're gonna outright call someone goat at least have the stats to back it up

#47
MrCrespito
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didn’t i just mentioned 3 international tournament’s MVPs that are doing nothing or playing bad rn? you can’t judge someone being the goat by that player winning a MVP of a tourney

#53
kbkdark
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Baiter bro... just leave it
He's this type of guy: https://imgur.com/a/SmwySxf

#62
groomer
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How does other players performing bad make aspas the goat? Makes no sense bruh

#12
dort
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aspas is the most overrated player ever. bro always chokes in big games. he's a tenz clone basically

#34
Matheusssss7
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sim nrg, Sentinels e optic são time pequenos triste NA e a pior região por isso e a puta do brasil

#57
kbkdark
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Always Chokes in big games

👆🏻 = This

DRX 2022
OpTic 2022 (2x)
NRG 2023
NAVI 2023
Fnatic 2023 (2x)
EDG 2023
EG 2023 (He stepped up with Less, but the rest of the team was bad at that game + TuyZ didn't even slept that day due to fever)
100 Thieves 2024 (Kick-off)
Sentinels 2024 (Stage 2 - When they were the recent Masters Madrid winners)
KRU 2024 (Stage 2 - When they were 5-0)

#38
hellfire
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unlike tenz hes actually good at the game

#68
Y0kai
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Bro saying Tenz is bad when he repping JDG

#13
donkkomong
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Name one player thats better than Aspas and I'll let you know how surely wrong you are. Just name one I dare you.

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groomer
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#7

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donkkomong
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No Leo isn't, although he is my #2 pick as second best player in the world.

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groomer
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I think people are just blinded by his flashy plays. Leo is way more consistent and also doesn't disappear when his team needs him

#29
donkkomong
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Give Leo C0m and Tex and say the same shit you just said.

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askrial
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aspas... disappears????? whos carrying lev rn then lol

#19
acels
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yayster
tenz
f0rsaken

#21
charleser
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stewie2k

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Itsover
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Your flair has 3 players better than aspas

#25
ShuraGam
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Consistency.

Aspas has always been in the discussion for best player itw ever since his rookie year in 2022. He might not always be the absolute #1 on every given moment of his career, but he is ALWAYS up there (like, at least top 5 easily) and never really fell off in performance.

Players like TenZ and yay went from 100 to 10 over the years with roster and meta changes, while Aspas always kept an 80-90 without ever dropping so far.
Just look at his match history. Lightning strikes in a sunny day more often than Aspas has a bad individual performance in a series.

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groomer
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Ik he's very consistent and easily top 3 itw. But how can you be considered the "goat" without having any dominant performances internationally?

#27
SanePath
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2024

Masters Shanghai (Swiss Stage)
-9 (vs FUT)
+15
+14

AMER Stage 1 (Regular Season + Playoffs)
+17
+21
+6
+17
+29
+19
+34
+32

America Kickoff (Group Stage)
+12
-4 (vs Loud)
+22

Total Average (14 games): +16

1 bad game against FUT doesn’t mean shit, he’s still him.

#30
groomer
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+29... +34... +32... Why couldn't he perform like this during Shanghai?

#32
Itsover
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bc he's not Leo

#33
Psion
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the team was much more coordinated in stage1 regular season than shanghai or stage1 playoffs, it wasn't an aspas thing

#36
FNC_Ajay
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Because no Ame minnows in Shanghai

#46
BadlandsChugs
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because his team sucks? we all saw that round where kingg omen ulted away in a 2v2, aspas doesn't have nearly the same caliber of supporting players to set him up

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groomer
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If his team sucked he wouldn't have made it to Shanghai

#67
BadlandsChugs
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im not about to be baited into this argument by someone with groomer as their username

#52
a1zenz
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You are trolling, right?

#39
Lacra8729
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People in Vlr are so stupid , Most have not reached radiant and they say pure bullshit .

Aspas the goat of Valorant 100%

#49
alsdhflkahflkajsdhlfhsadl
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aspas GAPS NA

#50
heavensentsaint
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hes been consistently top 5 but theres players with higher peaks

#54
envyz
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Cuz he's consistent as ever, is consistently the best player in the world, towards the end of 2022- the present.

#58
burritx
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Holy yappening of the yaps

#59
ZekaTheGoat
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It's a forced narrative stemming from a mixture of a lot of things- Figures like Yay, Derke, Demon1 falling off gave a false perception about his consistency + fans regurgitating
extreme glorifying words + the sheer amount of fans that drown out valid criticism and lastly, just the sheer amount revisionistic opinions being thrown around that gets backed up by Aspas's humongous fan base contributes to it all.
Truth is the val is still too young to have a goat. The goat of val is probably too young to play tier 1 yet. Even Faker started solidifying himself as the goat after 3 years of 22' Yay level of consistency with a higher peak than Reykjavik tenz while revolutionizing the way the game was played. He only established himself as THE undisputed GOAT after having one of if not the greatest individual performance in worlds (a performance Aspas has yet to have in his career) ever.
I know it's unfair use Faker as the standard but even when compared to someone like Chovy, Aspas still seems premature.

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johnqtgoat
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valorant is still a growing esports there is no goat yet for me but aspas is up there he is consistent and the best duelist arguably his consistency is insane and he puts blownminding stats so for now at least he is the goat unless we see an insane player in the next few years

#63
N0ah000
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the fact chronicle has won 3 lans on all roles and u sttill think aspas is better is insane tbh

#65
chaewon187
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tell me, why are you so concerned on another man playing a professional video game? fucking loser

#70
grenji
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what is your name bro

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