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wtf went wrong for T1?

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#1
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

why did they just suddenly go from smacking G2 13-1 to this?

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FluffyRhino4
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Were you hibernating and just woke up

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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I meant why tf did the go from 3rd-4th in kickoff to just being shit

rossy carpe sayaplayer and xccurate are good players

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JustHunterM8
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I mean T1 have just had problems with their strat book and leadership. You cant have a good team without a good IGL

#68
The_Cleg
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Calling carpe a good player is crazy☠️☠️☠️

#71
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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carpe popped off against G2 tho

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The_Cleg
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Who cares? 1 good game does not make you a good player. He's not good.

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I have a feeling that lev may lose to T1 , if aspas aura doesn't work 💀

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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APAC needs to fix their shit mentality NOW

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Psion
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They always were the 2nd worst team at this tournament by a wide margin. This was an abysmal performance from G2 and they still won.

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kyro1
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are we fucked in the head? g2 looked good. 13-1 map pick is shameless but they got anti-strated even down to the comp t1 played. they defiantly have looked better but they didn't look shit.

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That was easily the worst performance from G2 since groups, it’s an abysmal performance relative to every other game bar the grand finals where they had no sleep or time to prep and 100T are a drastically better team than them in the first place

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kyro1
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they looked worse in lowers that game was a mudbowl but yes relative to everything else sure it was not their best.

#69
JustHunterM8
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This is standard G2 performance bro what are you on about. The only thing missing was Valyns ridiculous fragging from Americas

#70
Astar
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g2 got away with too much with scrappy wins lol this is their usual performance

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kyro1
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brotha what? they arent shit they have potential. they lost to a good team and a match they should have been able to close out. gg go next they have a 50/50 against lev hopefully they learn from their mistakes.

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Psion
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The game vs Lev is not a 50-50 lev are favored

#11
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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yes LEV are the favorites, but T1 always find a way

#44
K4ziuHa
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stfu the only thing you do on this website is glaze china and glaze T1

#46
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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I don't even glaze T1 LMFAO

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kyro1
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idk what planet your living on but if lev play like how they have been playing its defiantly a 50/50 lev will be favorite because their from americas but if you use geng to temperature check both teams t1 look better and if you use g2 to temperature check t1 look better. and lotus isnt gonna get banned so t1 start 1-0.

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bro are you only looking at stats?. Go look at the GenG vs T1 bo3. It’s a completely different GenG from the one we saw yesterday….. the GenG in the lower final is a much closer approximation to the GenG vs Lev, and using that lower final game T1 lost 0-3….
I’ll Give T1 some slack, they only really lost 0-2 because on lotus they experimented

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kyro1
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im not talking about the bo3 im talking about the bo5. lotus is chalked they experimented and it flopped, icebox t1 easily could have won if you give them a pistol, bind idk about winning but it would have been a lot closer had they not got bonused. compare that to the lev we saw yesterday they beat a t3xtureless gen g on icebox good for them, they lost lotus 13-5 if you take away their pistol 13-3 so even worse then the score suggests, and 13-7 on breeze which again take a pistol and its 13-5. and if we compare g2 bro its not even close.
g2 5-0d lev they choked 2 maps cuz they always choke but both maps were theirs to lose meanwhile t1 were sleeping on map 1 and woke up map 2 with heavy anti strating and by all means should have closed out lotus if xccurates pistol was reloaded g2 dont win second pistol entirely different game.

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Lev threw so many man up situations on the last 2 maps in gun rounds. I totalled ~12 i forget the exact number. (and trolled some rounds like this on icebox too)
thats around 50% of the rounds Lev lost. That's not going to happen again, especially not against a team like T1 with much worse mechanical prowess than GenG.
and there's no point in using G2 as a comparator because the stylistic matchups are completely different. while vs GenG i'd say both are neutral, T1 are a heavy counter towards how G2 play imo and Lev are neutral or favor G2
lev win icebox, bind, and sunset while T1 win lotus and breeze. the other 2 maps are 50-50s i haven't liked either team on them but we haven't seen Lev's split so they might have something cooked up

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kyro1
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why dont they just not throw man up situations 🤯 i sure hope they dont or else they wont stand a chance against t1.
ok stylistically i agree with you but i dont think theres no use comparing it.
map wise lev bind, sunset while t1 lotus, breeze i would say split, ascent, icebox could go either way.

#51
Psion
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idk ask c0m lmfao.
With the way T1’s coach talked about icebox, it sounded like it was prepped specifically for G2’s comp, playstyle, players.
Every one of these is different and it actually favors Lev because of how tailored it is.
The chamber’s value gets neutered by harbor, aspas is the exact opposite of icy(I can go on about the difference in player styles), unlike GenG, T1 only have sova util to clear through the smokes, and you can’t hit A 12 times vs lev you will get owned by aspas and Tex

#52
kyro1
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i dont disagree with your icebox take but they also 13-1d g2 i do think lev are favored on icebox slightly but its like a 55/45 this match is the definition of a 50/50 idk how you disagree.

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The_Cleg
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Getting down voted for saying lev > T1 is CRAZYYYY

#12
Prancer
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they lost to a good team

Bro tried to sneak that in

#20
kyro1
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somebody is mad their team bouta go winless

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Prancer
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DRG WINLESS??? you are cluelessvbrother. DRG are the kings of valorant. Yesterdays game was played with their monitor off and their hands tied behind their backs. Wait till they actually try. It will literally just not be fair for any other team. Nihao motherfucker

#34
kyro1
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word i believe you unfortunately theyll be playing limbless tmrw gl out there :)

#35
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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vookashu dropping 72

#37
kyro1
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that is indeed their only win con yes.

#38
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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China is good at everything lil bro

#39
kyro1
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thats why their best player is russian

#40
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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doesn't matter.
still part of the team

#41
Prancer
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doesn't matter.
He is only good because he is on chinese soil (concrete)

#42
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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People always forget China is also good at everything just like South Korea and Japan

#73
cloudberry
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Genuinely laughed. That last line is so hecking funny

#8
Vengaa
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pacific teams are professional chokers

geng, drx, prx, t1... it is well known

#13
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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on behalf of the entire APAC fanbase:

shut the FUCK up.
we do NOT care.

#14
Vengaa
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why are you getting butthurted by a minuscule fact then lol

#19
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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that's bc y'all toxic af AMERICAS fans keep provoking the shit outof us so I had no choice but to enter my toxic arc

#21
Vengaa
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understandable, it is still fun to make laugh of a trophyless region

hope you understand

#23
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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why aren't u laughing a CN then?

#26
Vengaa
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They don't get as butthurted when I state a fact, so it's not really worth enough

#28
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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11-3 btw

#30
Vengaa
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fnatic is the best team in valorant history tho

they just have to kick boaster and competition is gone

#31
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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Leo and Chronicle?

#24
proud_bandwagoners
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Stop, I mean, he's got a point 😔😔

#15
botfragger432
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br0nz1l

#16
CYNOS
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LOUD 11-3 FNC incident?

#22
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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I'm glad FNATIC won LOCK//IN

#18
Vengaa
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touch some nerves here so im going to repeat it so it is clear

PACIFIC TEAMS 0 MAJORS. NOT GOOD ENOUGH. CHOKERS

#25
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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bro started an argument ICANT

#47
dual000
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You choose 1 trophy rather than consistency every major? eww no wonder you guyslose the fame so fast

#53
Vengaa
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which fucking pacific team is even consistent every major? lmao

#54
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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PRX and DRX

#55
Vengaa
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over loud? lol

lmao even

#58
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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At least they actually beat FNATIC

#56
RzqoFoxie
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Because both G2 and T1 are incredibly inconsistent teams (current roster). We already know they won't win anything this year

#57
charleser
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washed thread

#59
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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from 0 to 100 real quck lmao
I apologize

#60
The_Cleg
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To this??? They over performed like crazy talking like they looked worse than we imagined???

#62
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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Imo they looked better than G2.

#63
The_Cleg
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? Only cuz they hard anti strat 1 map it does not mean they looked better. They got man handled by 1 singular leaf in a map.

I was even rooting for T1 so I'm completely unbiased but saying they looked better is kinda crazy.

#64
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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take note of the IMO that I said earlier

#65
The_Cleg
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If you wanna take my input or not is up to you, your opinion or not I can call bs when I see it🤷‍♂️

#66
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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ok

#72
cloudberry
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2024 T1 are a less extreme version of 2023 Team Liquid

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