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CS V VAL

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#1
MrAbsol

So many people have such strong opinions on both games that its just kinda dumb at this point. Im going to js state the obvious, CS has-

  1. More Players
  2. More Viewership
  3. Community pieces implanted into the game (Stickers, Maps, Skins)
  4. A market
  5. More Game modes
  6. Better graphics (Js my opinion)
  7. A diverse community that co-exits together

Valorant has-

  1. Devs who dont listen
  2. Very opinionated topics
  3. A huge level of complexity
  4. Balancing problems
  5. Cash-Grab tactics
  6. Minimal representation of Esports teams
  7. No Re-Play system (Its been four years bru, we got a non-binary character before a much needed system in the game)
  8. A community that spreads hate (Yall argue over non binary characters, how good or bad maps are an you hate on eachother for it, its kinda petty)

At the end of the day, both games have there flaws, both games have there ups an downs, but truly if you guys still wanna argue bout which one is better, just look at everything Valve has done for CS, there community, there esports and there game, then look at valorant

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tsmsobadholy
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valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike chad with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism

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Alexsei
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w

#4
yoccuu
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No Re-Play system (Its been four years bru, we got a non-binary character before a much needed system in the game)

??

#40
p0tsuz
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???

#41
siniota
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Chinese privilege

#5
KyLZi
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More players in Europe* way less everywhere else. Watching CS is like watching Soccer man. There is some representation from other regions but it's mainly Europe because they have 85% of the player base. Just not as interesting.

#15
zardinez
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Nah it's not soccer, it's American football. Only popular in one region, that's it. Soccer is more popular worldwide than CS lmfaooo

#45
Tamag0
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It's soccer, Europe best region, LATAM the underdog, NA wasted spot, and Asia is just happy to be there.

#6
XanXanUk
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ye look we dont care thanks for input tho

#7
IAmRichYouAreNot
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My man chose to speak nothing but facts, however I need Valve to major update CS2. It will happen during 2024 or 2025, but wish it was during the launch

#8
YeaUrMum
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im sorry for you

#9
elegant
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facts my guy

#10
WARDELL_LAN_DODGER
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who fucking cares you loser

#42
SiYK
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lmao imagine being on vlr and calling another person a loser

#11
Kuracpimpekkitadjoka17cm
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Absolutely true,

#12
M7mdA13
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CS is an older more household name, so more viewership and players is an unfair point.

Market and skin stuff is honestly down to preference, I don't want to pay hundreds for a butterfly but also it has no real life value.

Both games communities don't coexist lmao, I am so tired of the whole which game has the more toxic player base. EVERY SINGLE TEAM BASED GAME HAS A VERY TOXIC PLAYER BASE. that's just what some degen children and "gamers" do sadly.

CS also have devs that don't listen, I mean this game hasn't actually changed in years.

valorant gives 50% of profits from some bundles to Orgs, and most updates cater to making the pro scene better, so imo that's pretty good improvements to integrate esports into the game.
any other point i didn't address I agree with to an extent

#17
MrAbsol
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I do understand about the whole org representation and 50% proceeds, however, it took them a long time and they only made classic skins. This is just me but I feel like updates that help the pro scene doesnt necessarily help the community. I feel like riot priorities's the pro scene more then what the casuals want, which is new game modes, replay system, a more fun and enjoyable type of game that doesnt feel like a sweat fest every round

#18
lolli
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cs2 literally removed maps and modes from csgo even workshop support came late, all you did was mention cs's strong points and valo's weak points, thats a stupid comparison honestly. At the end of the day you are comparing a 2 decade old esport to one that just entered its 4th year

#23
MrAbsol
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and I think you argue a good point. CS2 did remove maps, some game modes however they have been adding them back with a visually better looking style to the maps. The graphics and visuals of the maps greatly improved because of it and it addition allowed them to make changes to the maps. Yes, i am comparing the two cause some argue valorant is better and some argue CS is better. Valorant revolutionized esports and may have brought it more light and I hope that it continues, but peoples comparisons between the two are drastically different in the sense that youre trying to compare old to new. this is just some opinions and facts, i respect your take

#36
lolli
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thank you brother, I grew up playing 1.6 and source, I felt betrayed by how valve is only fucking around especially with the anti cheat

#13
FireII
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valve sponsored post right here

#14
StyrofoamOne
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i love cs but im still gonna say valoranteh is better until valve anticheat drops

#16
Cromawarrior48
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CS>

#19
Asvka
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you must have never played cs if you think valorant devs don't listen

#20
dex03
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I am ngl there is a point where valorant is better rhan cs which is the anticheat system but other than that you are correct

#21
Fruitless
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I prefer Valarante because FPS games are like anime battles, CS is too realistic in my opinion, it's better to play airsoft guns at the same time.

#22
bearmans
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i literally don't care.
i play the popular ones in asia.

#24
cobalt21312
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actually paid by valve lmfao

#25
MrAbsol
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they promised me navi stickers

#31
cobalt21312
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fair enough tbh

#26
Cheasle2
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A diverse community that co-exits together

OMEGALUL the diverse community of only straight white incel men who scream and piss their pants when they hear a woman talk in game

#27
MrAbsol
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sounds like a stereotype

#30
Cheasle2
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sounds like you

#32
Wylie
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which game are you talking about?

#35
Cheasle2
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CS2 obviously. Valorant is much more diverse, but it still has too many of those people.

#39
Alexsei
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Did you watch the major? The crowd was deffo a 50/50 with men and women and at least a quarter of the crowd was Chinese people

#43
NA_KEKW
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ignore him bro, straight white males live rent free in his head.

#48
Alexsei
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i dont understand the obsession with demonizing straight men man wtf

#49
NA_KEKW
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it's an american thing just ignore them, they'll do everything in their power to convince themselves that it's the white man's fault for everything wrong in the world. the bright side is they'll never be able to accomplish anything tho.

#52
Zerphyr1
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NA education

#54
Cheasle2
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the cs community is so touch starved that if a woman even appears on camera at an event, the entirety of twitch chat devolves into "SEX SEX" "IM COOMING" "WOMAN WOMAN" "GRILL I SEE GRIL" its pathetic.

In Valorant, if a woman appears on camera... its normal, because it's a normal thing in this community with normal people, and even the cesspool that is twitch chat manages to stay civil.

#56
Wylie
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This definitely isn't true lmao.

#28
simo98
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A diverse community that co-exits together

I CAN SWEAR TO THE GOD, 1 MONTH AGO JUST BECAUSE I DEBATED WITH SOMEONE ABOUT CS IN VLR I OPEN HLTV

someone posting this:
Japan come
"Bro where japan scene I Miss so much"
Answer:
"Oh they busy making a porn"
"Are they still alive after got bomb in Hiroshima "
"Trash region just know about making porn"

#29
beaver_man
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Bro unironically said CS has a diverse community 😭 99% of CS fans are 30 year old European white dudes

#33
AKIRA1988
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I haven't played CS2 so some things may have changed however my general issue with cs is how much specific game knowledge it requires.

Having to build muscle memory for spray patterns, flashbang lineups, smoke lineups, movement mechanics that allow you to access certain areas of the map is something that never resonated with me. If you refuse to learn these things you are extremely limited in your play. To me it's quite stupid that I can have a better understanding of crosshair placement, better aim through using aimtrainers and not insta crouching and still lose many fights to people who just memorised some flash lineup or spray pattern that will never come in use if they play any other game.

What I like about val is that when I play an agent in val (I main smoke and duel ik things are a bit different for initiators) I am not limited by technical skill but rather my understanding of the game, I can use my util anywher near me and it is about how I visualise it helping me or my team win the round and not whether I can throw some specific lineup.

#34
f0rest
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CS2 is better in being very liberal in some aspects, like community stuff
but Valorant is way better in everything else. Just the fact that i just need to press PLAY and i find a match with good anticheat, good servers and good mm system, its already good enough to be better than CS

#37
yaiima0
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“Diverse community” is a lie and you know it lmao.

#38
Twentytwo
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It's not that deep bro they are both games not politics

#44
Alex_From_Texas
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cs2 is a joke lmfao aintnoone playing that dogshit

#47
NA_KEKW
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at least make a less obvious troll comment

#46
MANIAC8686
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Minimal representation of Esports teams

tf is bro yapping about 💀

#50
X20M2703
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NAVI IN CS 🗿
NAVI IN VAL 🤡

#51
K4ziuHa
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Community pieces implanted into the game (Stickers, Maps, Skins)

this is only possible thanks to the low skin quality (compared to valorante)

#53
StyrofoamOne
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valarante have child skin, i no want shoot lazer out of gun, i want chad bullet!!

valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike chad with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism

#55
MrAbsol
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I feel like people would want community skins then overpriced 200$ skin sets that cant be resold

#57
Phamous
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Just let both games exist lol.

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