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| Country: | United States |
| Registered: | October 19, 2023 |
| Last post: | April 1, 2024 at 9:00 PM |
| Posts: | 98 |
Wtf, because of Valve making all TOs open circuit in 2025, partnership teams will be dead and new TOs are coming back. A huge W would be Eleague to come back for NA. Imo more tournaments means more growth, will Riot franchising system destroy the esports growth?
https://www.hltv.org/news/38676/starladder-announces-plans-to-return-to-cs-circuit
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May 26-June 1 - StarLadder tournament
June 9-22 - First Major
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December 1-14 - Second Major
My man chose to speak nothing but facts, however I need Valve to major update CS2. It will happen during 2024 or 2025, but wish it was during the launch
If you like donk then Spirit are big favorites, Faze are always a team that delivers entertainment. Eternal Fire are Turkish underdogs that just made history with first ever Turkish team in major playoffs.
No VCT for a period now, will you tune in for the Major tomorrow? Matches already looking better and exciting than the boring Paris major with fluke tier2 teams.
Stage looks cool too, analysts and casters are top of the shipping containers
China got some banger LANs this year, Valorant Masters Shanghai and CS2 IEM Chengdu and Shanghai Major in December
no it was the goat LE TANK....jk
If you are curious of any Valorant player that came from CS and their history, heres a good video. Cheers
he needs a decade of greatness before he even comes cloae to s1mple
People been saying NA is dead for years, well it never died even though its been on its very lows during Covid. EU may be the dominant region right now, but NA orgs are coming back and talent is growing to recover the original tier2 NA pros that went to Valorant. Jba, Swisher, Reck are just a few whose making a name for themselves in NA. Like I said before, since Valorant took all the tier2 NA pros, it takes time to recover that. So for me, I enjoy watching CS more because of the underdog story for NA to beat EU teams, I find that much more interesting. Especially when teams have a big era like 2019 Liquid before, it keeps me in tune to see which tram will spark a light again and change the scene again.
I will keep believing in NA CS, its never dead till its dead. Btw coL still one of the top teams, so idk how a dead region can have a top team
Theres still surf/bhop/kz maps in CS2, but for some reason my community browser is broken so I have to find servers on google
I heard that his real dream was to work with the motorsport industry, and he is currently casting in it. Hes not coming back anytime soon
CS Casting is unmatched, Sadokist was so good I miss him.
how does Tenz have higher net worth as S1mple?
who tf cares about direct control, what even is your point there? 3rd party TOs are good for esports, are you trying to say that is bad?
Franchising has no place in Valorant, doesnt make sense and ruins the competitive integrity of the esport. I would say let Riot be the main organizer for Champions, and let the 3rd party TOs handle Masters and other tournaments. Literally the perfect format and win win, but Riot is too greedy to let such a good thing happen
wow so you are also a petty little child that can't defend your stupid point and rely to point out a little grammar mistake I made. I'm delusional for people hating on how Valorant is being handled by Riot, bitch everyone hates it on twitter and on this forum calling me delusional for this is crazy. I don't know how your original reply "saying riot is better than valve at esports is not cap, but its also irrelevant since valve lets 3rd parties manage tournaments" is not related to what I said all over this thread, but maybe you are mentally challenged to interpret it.
When I see a dumb take like yours with Riot being good at handling esports with Valorant which everyone hate across the internet, I have to reply, doesnt matter if YOU werent replying to me, IM replying to you.
All based on qualifications. If you make it, you get more spots. If the scene suddenly gets good like BR during the LG/SK era, you get a lot of spots. You do the math
“ riot is better at directly managing an esport than valve is,” with Valorant yea fucking right buddy. I only brought up cutting cost and less tournament because it is directly related to the reasons why Valorant esports may be at risk. This is literally the whole point if the thread. 3rd party Tos will fix Valorants lack of tournaments but keep ignoring this.
You literally said “ league is the biggest esport and riot runs everything.... If valve ran everything related to CS it would be way worse than riot to league or valorant” and I said Valve allows CS to be runned by 3rd party TOs and are not greedy to degrade Valorant like Riot did to cut costs. Dont be an idiot.
I dont think CS plays are same at all, otherwise people would have found counters and be the best already, To me, CS and Valorant macros are pretty much the same, most pros confirmed that. Only the micros makes it different such as Jett dash, KJ turret, etc. CS is also imo more unpredictable and more punishing since you can flank a lot more often (Valorant way less with eg. cypher trips) and you cant bail yourself out (Jett dashes, Sage revives). I prefer CS battles because when opponents kill me, I feel they are better than me, but in Valorant, I feel more times its a lucky play and you cant save yourself from bad teammates by having your own smokes, flashes, mollies like in CS.
For Chinese viewership, I frequently check Douyu and Huya, the Chinese equivalent of Twitch. Surprisingly, both CS and Valorant viewership is about the same. Dank1ng is a very popular CS streamer getting around 3-4 million heat (theres no viewer stats). I checked in both the Asia RMRs and Chinese Kickoff, and the RMR had a million higher heat. So, even though Valorant is getting popular, they have different communities, so the numbers are still high for people who enjoy CS.
With the 800k viewership, that is pretty impressive. However, since it was Loud vs SEN, it was pretty much an ORG clout match, so numbers may be a bit inflated for other matches.
CS esports will probably never die. People been saying that since 1999, but guess what, it still hasnt died. EU may be the dominant region right now, but other regions are coming back slowly again, NA orgs are coming back and talent is growing to recover the original tier2 NA pros that went to Valorant. KRU just entered CS with their Argentinian roster. Asia scene is growing too, the Mongolz a Mongolian team can challenge tier1 teams and a Chinese team Lynn Vision made the major. The Chinese scene have many you g talent but just needs to find a good leadership and their scene will be thriving. So for me, I enjoy watching CS more because of the underdog story for NA to beat EU teams, I find that much more interesting. Especially when teams have a big era like 2019 Liquid before, it keeps me in tune to see which tram will spark a light again and change the scene again.
You literally do not get the point I made all over this thread. Its not ideal to maintain two esports at a very high level, thats why Riot is degrading Valorant to cut cost, but a better solution is to bring in 3rd party TOs to manage some events
Wtf is this take, if you care about your esports scene you would allow 3rd party TOs to help your esports and not being so greedy
Pay few teams or manage hundreds of orgs and games, which is more expensive?
Obo, I see you havent been in touch with CS in years. Jba, Swisher, Reck are just a few whose making a name for themselves. Like I said before, since Valorant took all the tier2 NA pros, it takes time to recover that. People been saying NA is dead for years, well it never died even though its been on its very lows during Covid and starting to recover with new orgs coming in or returning.
Im not so sure, I think in the beginning they really wanted to beat CS and showcase everything in high value until they realize managing Valorant was too expensive to maintain both League and Valorant at the same time. They then start cutting the costs by having less tournaments and creating franchising, meaning they want to cutback in everything. Of course, the solution would be to bring in external TOs, but Riot is too greedy for that
You act like upsets dont happen, happens in Valorant and it happens in CS as well. Itwas a very close match with coL being up and OGhad to comeback. Also the format is single elimination, you cant take the result that seriously
Its all subjective but I like both esports too, just hate how Riot is handling Valorant atm and dont see a bright future for it. Just look at League and see their production, they clearly have a favorite child and purposely are trying to trash Valorant
Get community map designers like in CS, with Valve win win since devs barely do any work and map designers get paid. Ofc Riot is too braindead for that
Clearly it’s obvious you dont follow any CS by just making shit up, if you click a single teams profile on HLTV, you see plenty of young players
Jetlagged from flying straight to Europe from Mexico after just qualifying for the major a day before and playing in 24hours. Also this match did not mean much to them as they can use the extra days as bootcamp for the major. They may not be in their best form, but they still are top 10
For now, what about long term? NA/Asia can come back, they just need a spark again, just like what happened in the beginning of CSGO. Theres already sign of that with the Mongolz and coL still doing decent in tier1 with talents slowly building up again when Valorant yoinked all the tier2 NA talent
I think Valorant wont ever get remotely close to CS if they keep doing franchising. In 2025, Valve is making all TOs go completely open circuit, even though most tournaments already have some open qualifiers for spots. Even A tier tournaments are abundant for tier 2. Is Valorant esports set up for failure?
He was ethnically Italian too lol
https://www.hltv.org/forums/threads/2693509/the-kng-fns-incident
For you new frogs out there, CS drama was just different back then
Tyloo walked so Lynn Vision can run
https://www.hltv.org/galleries?player=10263#
Just found these very interesting, even spotted Alecks in one of the pictures lmao
Not a CS major, but I thought these entrances were pretty sick from recent tournaments.
Blast Fall Final coL vs Faze:
https://www.youtube.com/live/5eUzn5_OMb8?si=85DGIkO9I5DMlG10&t=20437
IEM Katowice 2024 Spirit vs Faze:
https://www.youtube.com/live/P5_0S0ILUjg?si=8OSaRfjTjksrCqRs&t=5787
IEM Cologne 2023 G2 vs ENCE:
https://www.youtube.com/live/pc-9WCVKdnw?si=EVA-IvnJTAehtlIW&t=4882
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