Clove… | VLR.gg

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Rollon_vegabond

I’m just saying this is how overwatch died. I’m not up for a debate on what’s right or wrong but in my opinion you shouldn’t be promoting alternative theories of sex on a video game for all ages.

To each their own but if indoctrination wasn’t real companies wouldn’t spend so much on advertising.

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i havent seen any advertising on clove being non-binary. it was just leaked. regardless, who cares? it doesnt affect the game

late edit because i barely read the original post until now: ur dumb if u think overwatch died because of them making characters not straight or whatever. overwatch is dead because the game sucks lmfao

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If they’re good, im playing them. If they’re not, im not playing them.

WHO CARES IF THEYRE A GIRL OR BOY

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Hashib

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"who care if its human or animal. As long as there is a hole there is a goal"

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ANIMAL??????

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kingbass

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Does KAYO have a hole

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geometrix

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who tf cares about the lore/social implications of an agent lmao, im tryna climb the ranks not think about politics

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Rollon_vegabond

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Read the last paragraph. You can say that all you want but what I’m saying is true.

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geometrix

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nahhhhh ur just baiting lil bro

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Psion

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metrix seeing you without an NRG flair is weird AF ngl

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geometrix

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gotta rep SEN for this madrid run, I pray to god NRG doesn't fuck up split 1

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Psion

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well i am bound by the OLD STINKY CAT otherwise i'd have my LOUD flair, either way Americas win this event and VAMOS

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azureblade101

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I’m not up for a debate on what’s right or wrong

proceeds to state an absolutely horrid sentence

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michaelisupset

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how does this affect cloud 9

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Lucrix

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Affect*

Sorry

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fuck

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how does this affect berlin

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Hashib

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berlin joining c9 soon

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finally, a good roster move, thought it would never happen 🙄

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nutab1e

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"this is how overwatch died" 🤓

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What even is a non-binary person? is there just nothing down there? do they have nipples?

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cobalt21312

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LMFAO

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ckzera

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a non binary person is someone that doesnt feel like any gender imo i think its weird

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Lucrix

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But it doesn’t affect you in any way so does it really matter?

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ckzera

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thats why i said in my opinion

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XtraChrxs

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i havent even seen any advertising about clove + who cares gameplay stays the same + young kids will genuinely not care anyway

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Psion

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yeah the people that complain are the only people that are making a deal out of it, they are adding the first non-binary agent in order to attract more people who either are or support non-binary people in order to get more money.

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oh no the absolutely terrifying nonbinary people /s

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BrotherMan

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What did overwatch do

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espeon

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"indoctrination" ok bud
just play the game it does not affect you in any way shape or form

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Rollon_vegabond

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This is riots way of advertising their inclusiveness of lgbt community right?

Generally people advertise a product or a service to increase sales/awareness right?

As much as people hate to admit it advertising works. Everything in your life is sold to you through some type of media. Hence why companies pay so much for it.

I don’t it’s right for a company to push a gender theory onto a video game that is played by young adults/children. Being non binary is not an issue, but it shouldn’t be something that is normalized.

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Conceit

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If it's not an issue why the fuck should it not be normalized

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Rollon_vegabond

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My 3 year old little cousin can believe he’s a paw patrol dog and that’s ok.

Making everyone else believe that it’s true is wrong.

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Conceit

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W false equivalence

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Rollon_vegabond

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I’m not saying anything is equivalent. I’m saying normalizing make believe things is not good. You are allowed to believe what you want, but look at these comments every one here is normalizing make believe.

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LouBag

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In before Reyna comes out as trans

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StoneRosesBestUKBand

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GOD I WISH 👅👅👅👅👅

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LMFAOOO

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ATBSniper

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Based.
Bringing the phenomena in our quotidian life is wrong. Normalising it to this extent is just baby steps for something bigger

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ATBSniper

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Downvoting like folks don't know how brainwashing works.

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Rollon_vegabond

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It’s a losing battle. It’s just nice to see 1 non insane person here.

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Kai__

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and people will contempt you for thinking normal 😞

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Rollon_vegabond

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I know my friend it’s a cruel world. Stay strong 💪

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yaiima0

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It’s not that deep lmao, it wasn’t even promoted

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rumbledink

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Ok, go play something else then

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me when a kid sees characters shooting and knifing each other 😴😴😴😴😴😪😪😪
me when a kid sees an a non-binary character 😱😱😱😱😱😠😠😠😠😠

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Rollon_vegabond

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Strawman.

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how tf is this a strawman

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Rollon_vegabond

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Unequivocally comparable because it’s attacking the wrong part of my argument. I’m not arguing that seeing a nonbinary character is worse than seeing someone get killed with a gun or knife in a pretend video game.

I’m arguing that promoting unhealthy, unproven, and frankly imaginary sex theories on the youth, that can’t even see a strawman argument when it’s staring them in the face, is not right.

Therefore when you attack a point that was not made in an argument you create a strawman.

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Simp4Bahiyyih

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You don't know what strawman means

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Psion

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this is not what a strawman is lol

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Rollon_vegabond

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A strawman argument is when someone is attacking a point of view not made in the original argument. Google is free kiddos…it’s right there for you to use.

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StutterSt3p

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Naw a strawman is misrepresenting an argument so that it favors your point of view.

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Rollon_vegabond

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That’s the same thing just phrased differently.

Misrepresenting: attacking a point not made in original argument

Favors your point of view: attacking a point not made in the original argument to support your strawman joke comparison.

Critical thinking is also free

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Psion

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a strawman is bringing up an exception to a rule or a specific example in order to DISTORT someone's argument

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Rollon_vegabond

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You don’t need an exception to create a strawman argument. Can you just google it your obviously wrong and either stupid or young.

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yaiima0

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You need a dictionary man.

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why cant they just be normal bro

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azureblade101

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eu shitstain and a miserable human being, I dont think it could've gotten any worse but u proved me wrong

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azurblade101

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Netero

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Right wing snowflakes always crying about shit 🐸☕️

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Rollon_vegabond

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I’m not part of a wing my friend. It’s just so obvious the destructive nature of promoting lgbt culture.

Do you ever sit and think what would happen if the whole world became lgbt. No more humans born through conventional means of conception.

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TheHardStuckImmortal

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do you ever sit and think about made-up scenarios to get mad at?

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Rollon_vegabond

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My friend every generation is doubling in percentage of lgbt numbers. It’s an epidemic.

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Psion

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you do realize how stupid an argument this is given old laws?

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Rollon_vegabond

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You realize how stupid this when you learn how to read. Every new generation meaning that people not born into those laws.

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TheHardStuckImmortal

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Okay 1. The doubling percentage are statistics you pulled from your ass and 2. Its almost as if there are more LGBTQ people as time progresses because they are being accepted not being ostracised for their sexuality.

Why did the number of left handed people in the United States grow after the stigma of being left handed dissappeared? Left handedness was often associated with the "devil" and being "bad" . Once that stigma dissipated, more people who were left handed were actually allowed to use their left hand? WOW. What a revelation right? And if you compare that with the statistic of LGBTQ populations its almost 1 on 1.

https://imgur.com/a/a3W1MEx

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Rollon_vegabond

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Your right the normalization is what’s causing the numbers to grow.

THATS WHAT IM SAYING, BOUFFON !

Normalization of make believe things like nonbinary is wrong.

The numbers are free for you to look up lil bro. The only one holding you back is you.

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you are retarded mate

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jawn

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bro is DENSE

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Netero

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That sounds kinda Pog tbh

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jawn

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do you even know what LGBT means??😭😭

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The upcoming Valorant agent Clove, codenamed “smonk”, is non-binary, according to leakers. Riot Games makes a point of promoting inclusivity and diversity in Valorant through agents, languages, and tournaments.

what should I pronoceting this her/him ?
i don't think this topic can go along in this forum KKKKKKKKKK

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Bro a kid who plays val is not going to care about Clove being non-binary unless you tell them to care. In the end, games are games, and fun is fun.

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Rollon_vegabond

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And that is what is being sold. If you don’t notice they’ll take it all from under your nose.

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save our kid!!

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Is the character confirmed to be lgbqt or are you shaking your fist at the clouds?

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BadlandsChugs

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Yeah ow died because of being woke, not the years of terrible balance changes, awful microtransactions and actively lying to the playerbase

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Rollon_vegabond

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They definitely lost a huge audience for being woke. Most people never played ow because of that.

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Conceit

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Source: It came to me in a dream
Overwatch died because the devs stopped updating it to focus on Overwatch 2, which was also shit and didn't be what it was promised, not because it had gay characters lmao

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Tracer was confirmed gay in 2016 when the game was still at its peak, if you seriously can't see anything beyond this point then you lack basic critical thinking skills

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Rollon_vegabond

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Do you not one person stopped playing the game when they started to push that stuff? Not one?

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Correct, and even if I did how the fuck does one person qualify as "a huge audience"? No reasonable person is going to go "ew this character is gay I'm quitting this game I've spent countless hours committing myself to". You can criticize blizzard all you want for virtue signals but expecting large parts of the playerbase to ditch the whole game over such a small detail is moronic

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why you care? how does this affect the game?
it literally only serves to make some people happy to feel included
move on dude

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WOOOOOOOOOOOMP WOOOOOOOOMP

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Indoctrination to fucking what?

Indoctrinating people into knowing Non binary people exist?

What is the destructive indoctrinating message that having a nonbinary agent in the game does

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raze and kj are confirmed to be a thing and like no one cares about it so i don't think there will be a problem because no sane person would be like "this one character is nb i am quitting this game!!!!!" and if someone was like that probably doing the community a favour.

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RRRRRRRRROOOOOOAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!