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the case for EG

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#1
PuGGey

EG should win because if a 4th EU team shows to Champs it would be the biggest waste of a slot ever. id rather riot just give China another unearned freebie than see another EU team at Champs

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mrGoudas
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Eg aint making grandfinals lil bro, pubg streamer too much for na

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loseralex
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honestly. if paper rex won it all with a sub i’m down for that

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Asuna_Yuuki
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Factual

EMEA is a one team region and anyone who disagrees is in denial

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BairyHalls
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🥱🥱

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EU_quiet
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They a 0 team region after tomo

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Bonkbonk201
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emea having the best team in the world doesn't = everyone else in the region being bad, it just shows them as bad because the best team in the world rn is in their region, everyone in NA looked horrible compared to optic, everyone in Pacific looked horrible when DRX was good and so forth.

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Simp4S0m
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FUT and Navi grouped bro

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Bonkbonk201
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so they played bad, what does that show?

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tinted
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?? was that supposed to be a rebuttal? lmao

#33
Master_oGgway
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You are braindead

#59
goofy_teddy
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navi just had one bad event out of four

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Asuna_Yuuki
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TL NAVi and FUT weren’t able to beat a single Pacific/Americas team

Overall, Americas is much stronger with more depth we saw that at Lock in

Also the last time an NON-FNC EMEA team has beaten NA was at Xset vs FPX at Champs

Overall, Americas has dominated EMEA recently

I’m using international results to justify my argument, not domestic results

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Bonkbonk201
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i swear people like u are just so lost on what matters, u refused to answer the question with mindless facts about regions and current performance, while also acting as though it was relevant to what i said, didn't answer the question i asked and genuinely still think u have an argument, but i'll entertain it anyway

Argument 1, "TL Navi and Fut weren't able to beat a single pacific/america's team" 1st of all, TL played EG who currently look 2nd/3rd best in the world due to standings, same with NRG who they played lower bracket, Same exact thing happened with FUT only they had to play EG and then DRX, 2 world class S tier teams, Same exact thing happened with navi only they were playing against EDG instead of an S tier team, a team which is prep heavy went against a team they have seen legitimately nothing of because they are a completely new team, u can argue that Navi just played badly as well, everyone has off days fair enough

the argument that "America's in much stronger with more depth" may be true, but once again, the evidence that u use to corroborate that is the 2nd and 3rd best team ITW right now beat them.

u can say whatever u want as proof, but try to make evidence that actually makes any logical sense at all in the future, it took me 10 minutes of research to break your points in 2 and make them invalid.

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Bonkbonk201
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i could on top of this all argue the NRG excuse that "lock/in wasn't valid event bc no one could prep for it" but of course someone who supports NA wouldn't want to bring up the fact that their own "best team in the region right now" was arguing because they couldn't prep for an event, if u only look at facts from 1 side, u will get a 1 sided opinion, that's how it works

#38
Asuna_Yuuki
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Bro wdym the “NRG excuse”?

Blud is just making stuff up now LOCK IN was a valid event

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Bonkbonk201
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if u seriously don't know what I'm referencing, I suggest u get more well versed on the scene and stop arguing a point u don't know about then

#41
Asuna_Yuuki
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If you’re talking about the people who claim that LOCK IN was a mickey mouse tourney, then why are you calling it the “NRG excuse”

It has literally nothing to do with NRG

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keener1600
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wtf are you trying to say im confused

#22
Bonkbonk201
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that u can argue absolutely anything and just because it can be argued for doesn't make it right or truthful

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Bonkbonk201
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i also did some extra research and it showed the "no emea team other than fnatic has beaten NA" but navi made it to top 4 of lock/in so clearly they beat some NA teams given some weren't in top 4, like the logic is just sad at that point, it doesn't matter what region u play against, u win or lose games, it's that simple, this whole "region is better" is just people who have way too much external pride due to their region rather than actually just supporting a team and sticking with them.

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keener1600
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I cant understand what you said even if I wanted to because its incoherent and makes no sense

#28
Bonkbonk201
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good for you

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_RAT_
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As of right now yes, they were no doubt the best region before but this masters has shown that NA diffs EU as far as depth of the region. EG was a nobody a month ago, and they beat Liquid and FUT. They almost beat FNC, so it shows in the results. C9, M80 prolly win these games too.

It's ok to cope EU, you still have the #1 team but not region itw.

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Olofboost
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You're the one coping. It doesn't matter how deep NA is, only winner gets an LCQ slot for their region.

#26
_RAT_
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didn't listen to my post never talked about whos gonna get the slot. Im saying EU doesn't deserve it.

#32
Olofboost
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EMEA does deserve it. Our 5th team (Giants) is better than Pacific's 4th, at the very least.

#39
Asuna_Yuuki
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EMEA doesnt deserve it more than Americas though

#42
Olofboost
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There's no proof of 5th Americas team being better than 5th EMEA team

#49
displayed_
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honestly AM deserves it more
too bad we wont get to see vit play
overall am is better but emea #1 is better than all of americas

#57
Asuna_Yuuki
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The proof is that Americas tokyo representatives, actually had to struggle to make it to Tokyo unlike EMEA

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Olofboost
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You're saying as if FUT, Navi didn't struggle. Vitality and Giants are not easy opponents.

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Asuna_Yuuki
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NaVi made it to Tokyo easily with an easy 2-0 win over Giants

FUT also got a fairly simple win over VIT

Compare it to a team like NRG or EG that had to grind to make it to tokyo

#23
B1itz
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But Liquid got like 5th. EMEA is ass but Liquid is still a really strong team

#55
blazennn
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don’t overate them they will never be contenders if the calling isnt fixed

Even Potter called it out as it is they got aimers just depends on if they hitting, if not might as well be GG against a structured team.

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Wronghand
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The main issue if EMEA wins is that quite literally every other team would be better off quitting LCQ since it will 100% be Giants and Navi. BBL, Heretics, Koi, and KC are 4 of the bottom 7 teams in Franchising. At least in Pacific we could get some cool shit from Zeta, Gen.G, GE or Talon to pop out of nowhere and challenge secret. But in AM, C9 is a masters level team already, it'd be awesome to see Sen battle Furia or Lev to see who is the best team after C9.

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shizuku_hajime
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You say that but if navi play as bad as they were playing at masters anything can happen don’t forget eg were once thought of as the one of the worst teams in franchising and look at them now all the emea teams have at least 1 or 2 great individual player or players on their team if they start actually using these players right you never know what could happen.
I mean look at koi their team is stacked sheydos, starxo and trexx as well as a pretty good igl and a duelist that is when he’s playing his best he is actually pretty decent as well if they sort out their role issues I guess is what I would call it and start to work as a team they should be pretty good

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Olofboost
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Wdym quitting LCQ? There's always a chance, Giants aren't even much better than the rest of EMEA teams.

"4 of the bottom 7 teams in franchising" cope, BBL/KOI/Heretics are better than KRU, MIBR, Detonation, GE, RRQ, Talon, Secret and Gen.G.

#30
Danny
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Krü and MIBR would slam those frauds

#35
Wronghand
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I'm glad to know you have never watched a single game of Pacific.

#46
Olofboost
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I did watch, they're that bad. Even T1 didn't really deserve Masters compared to Cloud9 or Vitality

#45
AndrewDaDawg
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Talon is just trolling w their ever-changing agent comp. Team secret is rly strong and defeated both drx and prx. In any case pacific isn’t even that bad

#47
Olofboost
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Secret boomers can't aim at all, yet placed 5th-6th in the league. Shows how bad everyone is.

#58
kirito5133
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didnt secret boomers beat your top seed???? show some respect

#61
Olofboost
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Lock-In doesn't count, it was a fluke performance

#7
BadlandsChugs
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I'm sad vitality dropped out, they deserve it after what they've been through

#11
DELUSIONAL_LAKIA_FAN
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vitality said their players were experiencing extreme grief so theres a chance that they wouldnt do so well, sad situation

#13
Congo1
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EMEA gaps your region. Your best team being in groups is polishing the stats

#20
keener1600
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Dawg NAVI and FUT got grouped and TL got absolutely mopped by EG and NRG

#21
EWW_EU_EWHO
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Factual and reasonable. We have created a super team in EMEA at the cost of rest of the region being worse than Tier 3 Americas. At this point, I would rate the Americas league to be more prestigious and valuable than Masters or even Champs because honestly only top tier teams they are missing is Fnatic and maybe PRX.

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cboomer
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It would be best if americas got the slot to be honest simply because Lets assume C9 and Navi are favorites at LCQ, who else from EMEA is better than Furia or Sentinels. But whoever wins it wins it can't really complain

#31
Prontera
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I love to see NA get more slot. But it aint happening, my prediction is we are gonna have fnatic era this year.

#34
Mortadelo
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Well hate to break it to you but it’s actually 5th slot, not 4th

Either of BBL/KC/KOI/TH/Giants will be at Tokyo if FNC wins

#44
Olofboost
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Navi is not guaranteed

#43
Vlr_Kp
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the Masters winner region will have 5 slots at champions and not 4.

EMEA - FNC,TL, FUT (If FNC wins tokyo, top two teams from EMEA LCQ will qualify to champs)
simillary for Americas and Pacific

#48
Kirya
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Why would the worse team win just because of the slots

#50
Crypto_816
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True. I would want either PRX or EG to win. There are so many good teams in both Americas and Pacific and so many entertaining teams. Lets just pray for FNCs downfall

#53
ax0788
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Hard to beat them when they got map advantage...

#51
Pogo
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No point arguing with americans on this site. They are all braindead and probably on 5 different prescribtions of mental health pills

#54
hekzy
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Holy fuck the NA cope is crazy. I haven't seen so much crying since the CSGO days. Maybe fnatic is starting to remind them of that time?

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