its pretty good but Leo and Zekken a bit too high

I can see why he put FNS high since they (FNS & Lothar & Steel too) have a similar mind for the game. He also put Saadhak and IGLs in general (Boaster, Stax) high. W

this is the 2nd best list I've seen. Sideshow's was slightly better

edit: wtf. NO ALFAJER or YAY????????????????????

"more important" my ass

EWC has more prize money for the winner. When you low attention span users should stick to the low attention span (look at prize pool), then you don't. Biased for sure.

0/8

when you cannot respond/use logic in a convo, you will go towards baiting LMFAO

you clearly didnt read anything other than when I mentioned the prize pool (your low attention span can only look at numbers LMFAO)

NA fans wont comment on that. But what they dont know is that OPTIC said their trophy was mickey (EMEA > NA):

OPTIC interview after they got a trophy on the timestamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBOI6WjHVKM&t=2295s

you dont know how to read or use your brain cells if you are calling that single iq digits lmfao.

0/8

all these PACcers and AMERICAS fans are delusional cuz their teams are shit.

1. VCT Stage 1 literally qualified teams to EWC and gave advantages in the qualifiers (byes for the 3rd/4th placing teams in each region). VCT decided the teams at EWC (this cannot be mickey lol)
2. Next, there is the 1.25mil prize pool.
3. Then, in the playoffs, all quarterfinal matchups had a coin toss decide which teams would get the choice for Team A and Team B (not even based on seedings so no flukey group teams have an advantage - BBL)

This event literally cannot be mickey mouse.
The best teams from VCT Stage 1 are competing, the best team will win (single-elim and no map advantages in finals), and top that off with the high prize pool.

this is not mickey mouse lol

all these PACcers and AMERICAS fans are delusional cuz their teams are shit.

VCT Stage 1 literally qualified teams to EWC and gave advantages in the qualifiers (VCT is not mickey mouse right cuz PRX won it right?).
Then, there is the 1.25mil prize pool.
This event literally cannot be mickey mouse. The best team will win and VCT Stage 1 decided the teams here.

ah yes. he hasnt
but what he did in the 5 events he did go to outweighs f0rsaken's player performance all time.

obviously f0rsaken is more successful since he has played on Paper Rex while Yay is stuck with NA bots, but Yay clears f0rsaken in player performance until now easily. also you saying that definitely shows you know nothing about yay and are just a new VCT viewer

#1 player of 2021 and #1 player of 2022 are definitely higher than f0rsaken for now. 2025 isnt even over so we cant say if f0rsaken is the #1 of 2025.

and in the other years, f0rsaken hasnt really been high in the top players of each year list (his stats are so bad)

Yay was the #1 player of 2022 and better than all other #1 player of years by a lot

Just go look at his 2022 stats and you will see that he had the best prime in Valorant (I also remember watching it, but for a new viewer like you, you can only look at the stats). even i got shocked for the first time in a while when i looked at them. the consistency in being a top stat player for like 5 events in a row was INSANE

Also he was a top 5-7 player in 2021 as well.

and Boaster is the GOAT igl

PLAT CHAT had Leo at 10 and TenZ at 5. They are definitely not reliable lol (also they were affected by recency bias)
Community put tenz at 4 and derke at 8 lmao. Not reliable either.

The only good take that Plat Chat had was Chron Aspas Derke top 3 (and even then Derke should be higher than Aspas by now)

He isnt in top 5. yall are so affected by recency bias its insane

Chron Derke Aspas Alfajer and Leo/Boaster/Sacy/Meteor/Nats/Yay clear all time for sure.

yes he was good before but Toronto was definitely his peak so far (stats-wise and just in general).
btw im not saying f0rsaken isnt a top player, i just see 9-10 players being better than him all time

most fans that are talking at this time are pacific fans

just like "emea bias" "na bias"

reaver* phantom

it is true though

nah he is just moving into top 10 players OAT (around 10-13)
be realistic and look at his stats before Toronto lmao

he is only high in people's rankings cuz of recency bias + Asian bias

i mean he is also playing against the aimers on Paper Rex

PACIFIC CHAMPIONS: 0
CHINA CHAMPIONS: 1
EMEA CHAMPIONS: 1
AMER CHAMPIONS: 2

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

BRO IS MOVING INTO TOP 20 NGL (he is prob 21-25ish rn)

nah that knife is fucked up

Boaster cant be done like that

🛢️💲🩸EMEA 2-0 PAC at the EWC🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸
🛢️💲🩸EMEA 2-0 PAC at the EWC🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸
🛢️💲🩸EMEA 2-0 PAC at the EWC🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸

⚡⚡⚡FNC 2-0 PRX
💩💩💩TH 2-0 GEN.G

Pacific is a fraudulent region that only gets to finals at 8-team mickey events and then flop at champions
(5th-6th was their highest placement at Champs 2024 💀💀💀🤡🤡🤡)

no its Milan

Cope
EMEA 2-0 PAC

enjoy your consolation finals

EMEA best region of 2025

GEN.G 2-0

TH are totally for sure definitely no way winning this

Unfake Kovaq whomegalul???
Kicks dogshit whomegalul???

Free Derke
Free Less

edit: 1 day left til this match. will the whomegaluls be good or will botality remain bots??

🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸 FNATIC 3-0 GEN.G 🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸
🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸 FNATIC 3-0 GEN.G 🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸
🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸 FNATIC 3-0 GEN.G 🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸
🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸 FNATIC 3-0 GEN.G 🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸

dont

not even a debate lol
the debate for goat of valorant is now between Chron and Derke (Chron is winning rn though for sure)

🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸 FNATIC 3-0 GEN.G 🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸
🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸 FNATIC 3-0 GEN.G 🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸
🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸 FNATIC 3-0 GEN.G 🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸
🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸 FNATIC 3-0 GEN.G 🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸🛢️💲🩸

FNC 3-0 TH. I wasnt believing in EMEA enough it seems.

right now nah since no tejo no win and wouldnt be top 4 at toronto if gen.g didnt choke

current:

1. PAPER REX
2. FNATIC
3. GEN.G
4. TEAM HERETICS
5. BBL
6. KARMINE CORP
7. NRG
8. SEN
9. EDG
10. DRX

2025 (overall):

1. Paper Rex (N/A, 1st, top 4 min) - PAC
2. T1 (1st, N/A, N/A) - PAC
3. Fnatic (N/A, 2nd, top 4 min) - EMEA (⬆️+1)
4. G2 (2nd, 4th, 13th-16th) - AMER (⬇️-1)
5. Gen.G (N/A, 5th-6th, top 4 min) - PAC (⬆️+5)
6. Sentinels (7th-8th, 5th-6th, 5th-8th) - AMER
7. Team Liquid (5th-6th, 9th-10th, N/A) - EMEA (⬇️-2)
8. Wolves Esports (N/A, 3rd, N/A) - CN (⬇️-1)
9. EDward Gaming (3rd, N/A, 9th-12th) - CN (⬇️-1)
10. Team Heretics (N/A, 11th-12th, top 4 min) - EMEA (⬆️+5)
11. Team Vitality (4th, N/A, N/A) - EMEA (⬇️-2)
12. Drx (5th-6th, N/A, 9th-12th) - PAC (⬇️-1)
13. Rex Regum Qeon (N/A, 7th-8th, 9th-12th)- PAC (⬇️-1)
14. Bilibili Gaming (N/A, 9th-10th, 9th-12th) - CN
15. Xi Lai Gaming (N/A, 7th-8th, 13th-16th) - CN (⬇️-2)
16. Bbl (N/A, N/A, 5th-8th) - EMEA ➕
17. Nrg (N/A, N/A, 5th-8th) - AMER ➕
18. Karmine Corp (N/A, N/A, 5th-8th) - EMEA ➕
19. Trace Esports (7th-8th, N/A, N/A) - CN (⬇️-3)
20. Mibr (N/A, 11th-12th, N/A) - AMER (⬇️-3)
21. 100 Thieves (N/A, N/A, 13th-16th) - AMER ➕
22. Titan Esports Club (N/A, N/A, 13th-16th) - CN ➕

im baiting back lol

i could tell from his words and his top 1 pickem (he had PRX beating SEN lol)

nice top pickem btw

🤣🤣EMEA 4/4 PLAYOFFS. 🤣🤣0 NA TEAMS IN TOP 4 🤣🤣🤣

1. SEN. NO CHINA NO WIN 🤣🤣🤡🤡NO CHINA NO WIN 🤣🤣 🤡🤡 1-13 TL 🤣🤣 🤡🤡
2. G2. NO TEJO NO WIN 🤣🤣🤡🤡NO TEJO NO WIN 🤣🤣🤡🤡NO TEJO NO WIN🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡
3. NRG. NO EMEA IMPORT NO INTERNATIONALS 🤣🤣 🤡🤡 NO ARDIIS NO INTERNATIONALS 🤣🤣 🤡🤡 12-5 🤣🤣 🤡🤡 BILIBILI 🤣🤣🤡🤡SO BAD AT EWC THEY BROKE HERETICS LAW 🤣🤣🤡🤡
4. KC. NO HARBOR NO WIN 🤣🤣🤡🤡 SAADHAK choking 11-6 and 11-3 to "b0tster"🤣🤣🤡🤡. SAADHAK -24 "fragging igl" 💀💀💀

EMEA: VITALITY? LIQUID? FNATIC? NAVI?
AMER: G2 (they are an EU org though anyways)
PAC: T1
CN: idk EDG?

it's not baits. What is wrong with my logic lmao?? you guys have nothing to say since you know you are biased/deluded

Bo1s are irrelvant in groups since they had double-elim bo3s. So that point is irrelevant.

what is wrong with single-elim brackets??? the best teams wont lose.
It was also a coin toss for choice on Team A or Team B for teams in playoffs matchups and not even seeding from groups.

reminder that teams qualified to EWC through VCT Stage 1 (1st place, 2nd place) or got advantages in the EWC qualifiers with a bye (3rd, 4th places in VCT Stage 1).

they aint losing to bumeretics lol

lock in

just gonna hope that doesnt happen yk

0/8
Champs>=EWC=Masters > LOCK//IN + 8-team Kickoff events like Madrid, Bangkok

no. but we win some final

Consolation Final :)

nah EMEA is guaranteed in the tournament til the last day (consolation finals).

AMERICAS are ass.

🤣🤣EMEA 4/4 PLAYOFFS. 🤣🤣0 NA TEAMS IN TOP 4 🤣🤣🤣

1. SEN. NO CHINA NO WIN 🤣🤣🤡🤡NO CHINA NO WIN 🤣🤣 🤡🤡 1-13 TL 🤣🤣 🤡🤡
2. G2. NO TEJO NO WIN 🤣🤣🤡🤡NO TEJO NO WIN 🤣🤣🤡🤡NO TEJO NO WIN🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡
3. NRG. NO EMEA IMPORT NO INTERNATIONALS 🤣🤣 🤡🤡 NO ARDIIS NO INTERNATIONALS 🤣🤣 🤡🤡 12-5 🤣🤣 🤡🤡 BILIBILI 🤣🤣🤡🤡SO BAD AT EWC THEY BROKE HERETICS LAW 🤣🤣🤡🤡
4. KC. NO HARBOR NO WIN 🤣🤣🤡🤡 SAADHAK choking 11-6 and 11-3 to "b0tster"🤣🤣🤡🤡. SAADHAK -24 "fragging igl" 💀💀💀

VCT Stage 1 literally qualified teams (1st and 2nd in stage 1) to this event/gave advantages to 3rd/4th Stage 1 teams in each region for EWC.
These are the real VCT top teams. The event is not a mickey lmao.

It doesnt matter if the production is ass for the viewers if the game is still fine for the players. Viewer experience does not decide if an event is mickey or not.

Production doesnt define if an event is mickey or not lmao. what is this cope 💀💀💀

yes it does (0.2)

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