Mazino for Adverso would be huge but Delz1k isn't franchising level, IMO they're better off trying to grab an underrated guy and coach him up around a more experienced team, similar to what they did with shyy. Possibly Fross from Sunxet or Darker who played on Fusion in LCQ? Bandicoot from EXL is also a shout but unfortunately either they'll have to pick up delz1k, get a Spanish speaking controller which is thin in LATAM, or convert someone Mak0 style to the role

Dicey
Zekken
EEIU
Valyn/FNS
Ethan/a controller player like marved supamen zander
s0m as the 6th

IMO they are best off for sure with the first 3, and if they do get Valyn then keep Ethan, but if they get FNS grab a controller player. s0m IMO is the perfect sixth man(similar to sick or dapr in my eyes) as he is big for content and plays a ton of different agents so he can sub in(has plenty of experience on 3 duelits, 2 controllers, 2 initiators and sage as well as a little bit of chamber neon and reyna) if need be for meta. Also a guy that probably isn't T1 level rn but could use some learning time under a better IGL(when you think abt it he's never had a great IGl, Daps was good but has more of a mind for CSGO and Hazed was fine but that's abt it)

My guess is
Jawgemo(Aspas role of Raze Jett Chamber)
Victor( same as usual)
Crashies(same as usual)
Dephh (IGL playing all three non duelist roles)
A mix of a few possible players, either Ethan if NRG doesn’t keep him, Wippie or Moose if they want a true sentinel, or someone like Zander or Supamen or Skuba as a true smokes player with Dephh playing other agents.

I think Babybay ends up being the best player who doesn’t make ascension. In my eyes teams will prefer zekken, Jawgemo, Victor, leaf, zellsis and Asuna for the primary entry spots. I think sen zellsis and NRG zekken will happen and eg will either keep Jawgemo or grab Victor or both

Wippie, Moose, and Dapr(maybe mitch in there) are the only really good true sentinels left in na, and it looks like Moose is starting to play controller more anyway

All but 1 of those chamber performances were really good lol, ur actively hurting ur argument. He's avg about 200 acs on support agents as well which is also great

The filter is set to 1700 or higher, if you switch it to 1800 he actually has a better acs. That argument is completely untrue.

His 3 raze games were against NYFU, Soniqs, and Virtuoso. I'm sorry but who cares if he puts up 280 ACS against those teams. Even his all time stats aren't impressive, especially compared to Asuna, Nismo, Jawgemo, etc. If you're going to make a franchised team you need to be top 5 on your role, and there's for sure about 10 guys better than him on raze. Even if you wanna do all time rankings, his raze is still not that impressive, especially when he's putting up the same fragging numbers on skye and fade. https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=all&event_id=all&region=na&country=all&min_rounds=200&min_rating=1800&agent=raze&map_id=all&timespan=all

Musashi is by far the most underrated player. Has only gotten better every tournament he's played in, and despite BIG being really bad all year he performed crazy crazy well.
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=14&event_id=all&region=eu&country=all&min_rounds=126&min_rating=1700&agent=chamber&map_id=all&timespan=all

Obviously smaller sample size for him but he averages 270 acs and nearly 1.5 kd with top tier FKPR. Guy is absurdly good on a bad team and didn't even get the chance to play LCQ. I'm afraid that because BIG didn't get a spot he won't be added to a team in franchising, when he def deserves it. IMO the only awpers better are derke ardiis sayf chronicle and jamppi, but after that you can argue Musashi is the next best. Hopefully he gets his shot but he plays 3 4/5 initiators(his breach and sova stats are also crazy impressive) and all duelists and deserves a spot on a franchised team.

My problem is FNC has a tendency to gameplan really well(which i give him) but he might be the worst coach at adjusting to the other team. I feel like when Onur hits a pause the next two rounds they go off, I never felt that way about Mini

I hate to say it but his Raze is not good lol
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=14&event_id=all&region=na&country=all&min_rounds=100&min_rating=1800&agent=raze&map_id=all&timespan=all
Raze was c9's biggest single character weakness all year. Leaf and Xeppaa both sucked at it, and guys like Zellsis, Zekken, Victor were notably better. His Kayo is comfortably top 10 NA(Not Asuna Nismo Zekken level but still great) and his Skye and Fade were statistically the best in NA. My guess is he also picks up sova, breach, and sage a bit more next year as well.

Trent+Zekken clears every other team in NA

d00mbros, Engh, Barbar are probably top 3. I don't really rate Mini that much honestly and Engh is still awesome IMO

u mean -breeze +split

I think its more likely they keep stellar and get Yay for Will

He's within a group of the top 5 awpers, IMO Derke clears the group(at least domestically because Ardiis is better on LAN). IMO after there's a pretty solid group of Ardiis, Sayf, Chronicle, Jamppi(my personal order). Ardiis is probably the best Jett of that group(Sayf and Derke r close behind) but in general I'd say those are the top 3. He for sure deserves a top team to sign him, it seems like Jamppi and Derke r staying put, and FPX will prob get fully picked up. IMO it would be best for Sayf or Chronicle to be headline stars on teams like KOI, Vitality, or Heretics that are huge clout orgs that need a rebuild. If you can't poach ardiis then the other two should be every teams top priority.

Xeppaa is best at Fade Skye Kayo and will likely play a role similar to Stax since he's significantly better at initiators than duelist
Zellsis is better at Raze, Neon, Kayo and likely the sentinel role who will probably play more aggro. It would probably be like FNC where alfajer plays entry and sentinel and Mistic was a full time initiator.

I mean the roles match up almost perfectly, C9 needs another initiator alongside Xeppaa and an entry with Leaf likely awping a bit more. The obvious problem is the sentinel role but leaf and crashies could probably take that over. Personally i'd prefer zekken and trent but the OPTIC boys would also be good.

Even tho most of this list I don't agree on I do like that you actually put one out there which most people who will insult it can't say the same for

Seven is a tier below a lot of awpers, you'd still take

Yay, Cryo, Dicey, Leaf, Bdog, Tenz, Koala, Penny, Boostio, Will, Saya, and Ban

Over him, that's 12 players and franchising is 5 NA teams. There is no reason any of TSM should realistically make franchising, but gMd might have an argument

EEIU is a top 4 sova/fade in NA behind trent crashies and derrek

HAHAHAHA good b8

Why have Tex when Dicey Yay and Cryo exist, or even Bdog lol

Add Trent and Zekken. In 2022 Leaf looked better on awping than entry and Xeppaa is better as a straight initiator. Trent is chill with those guys and is a top 3 best initiator player in the region. Zekken I don't need to introduce we know why they should get him.

Thank god they didn't keep Natank and H1ber around just for sentimental value lol. Now they can go get a high-powered duelist like Nukkye and an awper like Sayf and be golden.

They'd need a 6th man which is why I said the other two. They wouldn't replace Derrek and they won't get Trent who will be poached by a good team where he can start

I mean every team probably wants him. Fit wise SEN makes least sense because of Tenz likely wanting to AWP, money wise 100T makes a lot of sense and Will seems most likely to not stay and it allows Asuna to entry more while Yay full time Awps. Then they could keep stellar, sign another initiator player as their 6th(maybe Nismo or JonahP type player) and be stacked out of their mind.

I think it makes Nats more likely, having Redgar Nats Scream Nivera Jamppi as ur main lineup while also having Soulcas as a fade specialist sub

And it also alleviates any roster holes the players could bring. They're obviously two great players but you don't want either awping and you don't want either playing breach or sentinel agents, which worked awesome for FNS but if you go to a team who's IGL is Valyn for example, it's odd

With the teams now needing 6 people they could also just pick up someone like dapr, net or moose, or even re-sign mitch and have them sub in for a map or two.

https://twitter.com/brencasts/status/1572988628527349760?s=21&t=JnG2sJmDSZ42BYfqyRGcxg In this tweet from Bren you can see that Riot is requiring teams to have 6 man rosters, which is odd for many people to see and has had mixed reactions. IMO, this is actually the time where it most makes sense. The obvious reasons come with wanting franchised teams to have backups in case of illness, outside issues, etc, that wouldn't be able to be fixed because there aren't Acad teams. IMO, though, the best part about this is that teams will now have to build their rosters in a more forgiving way, and lets players in specialty roles have a lot more impact.

We all know that the game is moving away from having set in stone duelist, controller, sentinel and initiator, but even more than ever with the new changes there has become 6-7 Roles instead of 5. Most teams now want to have an
AWPER(Chamber, Jett) (Think Yay, Laz, cNed)
Entry(Raze, Neon, Jett, Kayo, Phoenix) (Zypaan, Victor, Jingg)
Controller(4 controllers and for some teams the ability to play kay/o or sage) (Marved, Pancada, sScary)
Support Initiator( Usually playing Sova/Fade as the main agents with the ability to flex to breach, viper, sage) (Enzo, Crashies, Sacy)
Aggro Initiator (Usually the primary Kay/o, Skye, Breach/fade player who will play sage as well) (Stax, Jonahp, Hoody)
Sentinel(KJ, Cypher, Viper, Usually also Sage and sometimes chamber) (Less, Suygetsu, Dapr)
IGL( doesn't really count as a role agent wise as they'll usually play one of the initiator, controller or sentinel flex roles) (FNS, Ange1, Saadhak)

The problem is that most teams had an obvious weakness in one of those roles (Loud didn't have a Yay typer Awper, their sentinel and entry had to mix between it.) (FNS had to play the initiator and sentinel roles for Optic) (FNC had to put alfajer on both entry and sentinel agents)

This now means teams can swap between agents and players based on maps and awpers don't have to be put on uncomfortable agents, or initiator players don't need to be on KJ when she becomes more meta.
The general idea would be to have great players at every position, but for maps like Ascent you swap in ur KJ player, or Bind swap out ur awper or an initiator for a viper player, or play with only one initiator on any of pearl, icebox or fracture. A possible team could look like

SEN
Tenz awper
Victor Entry
Sick smokes
Crashies intiator
Zellsis initiator
FNS Sentinel/Initiator IGL

This is obviously a rough sketch but this team could swap between zellsis, victor and tenz if need be and have them all on ONLY comfort picks.

FNC
Derke Awper
Trexx Entry
Boaster Smokes/IGL
Leo initiator
Sheydos initiator
Alfajer Sentinel/kinda entry

FNC is another one where you could swap in and out all of the players that aren't Boaster and Derke to find a good rotation, as Derke can awp and entry, Trexx can entry or play initator, Alfajer can entry or play sentinels. It gives the teams more diversity in their comps and makes subbing in an out an actual thing you can do on maps.

LMK what you think this was kind of a tangent but I love the idea of a sub, especially if it means you can develop a younger promising player in that place.

The only worry is who plays sentinels but I don't doubt leaf would be willing to flex over if they had to play a Jett and sentinel comp

Stellar is a better IGL than Zander and anyone who disagrees is dumb. I don't care if he frags better than Stellar, Zander is still less valuable than Stellar unless he can prove to be as good of an IGL

Hoody and Nukkye for sure need spots, wouldn't be surprised if Mixwell went to KOI/Heretics and I doubt Meddo or Avova is on a franchised team.

Shao/Leo
Sheydos/Hoody

Are the best options for them instead of OBV Mistc and Enzo IMO

Pls put him back on controller on a good ascension team or even on a partnered squad like HRT KOI KCORP

Ethan and EEIU are quite good but there's better IGL's than hazed and better fraggers than S0m and Tex

VIT are a top coach,duelist player and initiator/duelist flex from being an insane team. We already know Bonecold is an insane IGL, BaddyG performed really well this year, and Cender is a solid sentinel. Give this team 2 STAR players and they are golden with no weak links.

IDC if the LEV org makes it but those 5 players(or at least 3 of them together) deserve to be in franchising. I feel the same way about XSET where they have a few standout STARS but might not have the org to make it through

Sheydos FNC
Redgar TL

Wow guy had his first bad LAN in over a year, and by "bad" we mean ONLY TOP 5 controller player

Yay
Shao
Less(Suygetsu very very very very close second)
Jingg
Marved/Mako(really can't decide I guess I'll do slight edge mako because of worse team and better champs performance)
FNS for IGL spot still I think he had the best overall year
bzkA or D00mbros(either are good, Onur would be hear as the guy who took a meh team to the best spot but IMO COTY has to be one of the winners)

He also isn't good at fragging but dude has the best fragger in the world and 2 of the top 5 fraggers in their own support roles in crashies and marved, it's not like he should or has to frag for them, and he's not as bad as Ange1 Klaus or Crow when it comes to fragging where he's an actual detriment to the team.

PRX are 5th, Jingg is top 10 at worst

If I have to take one from each(at their tournament) I'm going

FNS
Nats(either those two or Redgar+Marved)
Tenz
Zeek
Shao
bzkA

Nats would play more smokes role in his M3 form, MVP Zeek entry, Tenz who had the best tourney ever, Shao was FPX' best player and had the best sova/fade role performance of anyone on this list, FNS probably had the most clean IGL'd tourney apart from Saadhaks and bzkA because this tourney felt like more of an overall team diff instead of a singular player which shows a great coaching performance. Players I wish I could add are yay, chronicle, bonecold, marved, Less

Oh I see what you're saying my bad you're talking about way back when. Ya IMO the team would be worse because they wouldn't have a secondary fragger and Sacy/NZR would have to be on a weird role

Well Loud has the 5 best players in BR(Mwzera only argument) so I don't think they'd be better if they added another sova player lol.

I actually think current Meta with last years form of Acend plays into their favor. Prime Zeek and cNed on Raze and Chamber is probably gonna frag more than Aspas Less, and Starxo and Bonecold were at their peak form back then. The big ? is Kiles, if he played like full time smokes and Bonecold played Sova that would work really well.

Sorry for not writing a manifesto lol, he had objectively worse calling than last tourney and was getting mid rounded like crazy by Stax in their loss. His calling on Haven attack was absurdly bad lmfao, they literally gave up 10 straight rounds despite having double smokes on A hits. I don't think the comp was good either but IDK if that's a D00mbros, Neilzinho or Ange1 decision. Either way he was a detriment in fragging and also called worse than he has all year. Compare it FNS and Saadhak and it's night and day

I just put him there because I felt like I should put one loud player but he definitely isn't top 5. Just IMO he had a bit worse of a tourney than his last 2 where he was LOUD's carry and this tournament it was more of an old GMB type of style where the 5 players just diffed everyone else alongside insane igling to the point where Aspas didn't have to be a Yay or old Cned type carry player.