I think Enzo will be looked at better away from Fnatic. It honestly didn't scream as the best fit for him and IGLing is where he's strongest. I agree with the person above, Enzo and Roza/GmD is the best case scenario for this team
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I think Enzo will be looked at better away from Fnatic. It honestly didn't scream as the best fit for him and IGLing is where he's strongest. I agree with the person above, Enzo and Roza/GmD is the best case scenario for this team
I love this roster apart from Destrian honestly. I think they picked him up mostly because he's really cheap but I would very much have preferred to see them bring Vakk back or grab a guy like Zeek, Musashi, Jady, Patitek or even Mistic(ik controversial lol) to be in that flex spot to play fade, kayo, and breach.
Molsi and Twisten however are crazy underrated star level players from bad teams which makes them perfect for a super experienced IGL in Bonecold and Cender whos been around for ages and can play many roles.
Im gonna take this as players who as of rn with rumors arent on franchised teams
NA: Valyn Trent BcJ Dicey Nismo
EU: Mistic Jady Jugi Musashi Monsteer
Feels like Jady should make a franchised team, don't think there are 10 flex players better than him but obviously language and other barriers are probably hurting his changes. Would love to see D3ffo farm in T2 as well
first time they won't play with each other since November 2021 :(
They have a meh igl, two low tier awpers who don't get along and so much less fragging than the avg team
This team would get shit on lol
As long as Starxo isn't on duelist i'm down lol
They did what they set out to do, stay good in T2, at best they were a RO16 team and never did much to try to get better than that but win a few T2 tournies here or there, and sell your top players. They have created 4 T1 players(valyn, brawk, jonahp, c0m) and if that team as a whole stayed together with a duelist this would be a fantastic team, but that wasn't their goal.
Governer was the only real standout.
Truo wasn't a great igl and him and agm together were a really bad fragging combo.
Jcruel had some really high highs on chamber but some low lows
I liked retrq, he's very flexible(he plays like 12 agents) but was just a t2 player
Find a bigger one trick all time than Lenne wtf is that sova 85% lol
they speak the language which is more what I was going for but no if it was a purely Russia team I'd pick Redgar fo sho
russia is so stacked, probably the best country for valorant atm. Also definitely no redgar I know ange1 gets hate but no IGL in EU has had a better year and has been a considerably better igl than Redgar all year
no imports allowed, ardiis counts cuz hes a good scotsman
Same rules as regular franchising, 1 import max and the stipulation is everyone must speak the language fluently. The languages I'll say are
French(KCORP)
Spanish(KOI)
Turkish(BBL)
Russian(Navi(though I doubt they do anything asides from picking up FPX))
BREXIT
German even though they don't have a spot
French
Scream(entry)
Nivera(awp sentinel)
Enzo(IGL)
XMS(flex)
Subroza(flex)
kada(bench flex)
Spanish
Koldamenta(IGL)
Mixwell(sentinel flex)
Keznit(Entry)
Fitinho(awp, secondary igl, flex)
Yurii(initiator)
lowel (bench)
Turkish(I'm not very hip to the turkish scene so lmk if I'm missing someone obvious)
cned (awper)
alfajer(entry sentinel)
brave(smokes)
mrfalin(igl flex)
qraxs(flex)
aimdll(bench)
Russian
ange1(igl)
nats(sentinel)
chronicle(flex)
trexx(entry)
shao(initiator)
sheydos(bench)
BREXIT
soulcas(entry)
boaster(igl)
mistic(flex)
dephh(flex coigl)
ardiis(awp_
l1nk(bench)
Germany
al0rante(entry)
musashi(awp flex)
luckerr(igl flex)
aslan(smokes)
obnoks(initiator)
benny(bench)
lmk if I'm missing any good possible imports/people i didn't know spoke the language
Boostio better but c0m IGLed the best T2 in NA at the start of 2022 so he's prob top 15 NA
wouldve thought nrg if not for ardiis. Sucks for him tho he was the 3rd best awper in NA last year
Thats my best case scenario if they do keep the three, obviously like I said I rate boostio<Dicey but that team with Valyn is def best case scenario if they don't get marved.
After the current leaks and signings, it looks like c9 and 100t are full teams while nrg is rumored to be sticking with s0m and signing ardiis. That leaves 2 sen players and anywhere from 0-5 EG players(it seems like they'll keep boostio c0m and jawgemo rn tho.) For those last spots who is most deserved?
For me I'd put
Marved
Bcj/Trent
Valyn
Tenz/Dicey
IMO the best case scenario is marved/trent and tenz on sen and EG having Valyn Jawgemo Dicey BcJ and Trent/Marved but most likely scenario I think will be SEN Tenz and Marved with EG Jawgemo Boostio c0m and someone like BcJ and a controller who is an unrestricted F/A right now. That would be disappointing though as Trent and Valyn and Dicey are assuredly franchising level players and it sucks that with imports and unexpected roles like Zellsis on c9 and s0m on controller/ardiis importing.
Nismo Bdog and Babybay as fraggers and Wippie, Jonahp, and Moose as supports also intrigue me but at this point I don't see a path into franchising for them unless as a 6th man.
There was a point in stage 1 where V1 looked like easily the best team in NA, obviously the inexperience showed again when they bombed out but lets not act like his original v1 team before the wippie/wardell situation wasn't one of the best teams in NA
I was thinking one of him, Poach, screwface if he's still igling, or Nature as they all have igled at a t1.5 level at one point but have kinda gone downhill recently and idk how many of those 4 are gonna be igling or even playing in t2 next year
I'm pretty obviously referring to 2022, as much as Shaz will always be able to hold best IGL in the world for a period of time I really don't care about what he did 19 months ago. This year specifically those two have had fantastic calling games and streaks which Shaz never really had, obviously their problem is that they are streaky and inexperienced in comparison.
Dazzle had a much better overall year, plus they had so many fucked up things happen before LCQ I don't hold that against him. The tiers are more of groupings than hard rankings. The T3 ones can be better for certain teams that have plenty of fragging but are all young and unproven, but most teams would rather build around John and Zander who have had higher highs as IGLs than Shaz and frag better with more set in roles.
Just speculation but from everything i've heard Boostio is going to stay their IGL. If Valyn replaces him put Boostio in the second tier and its about the same.
Tier 1
Valyn, shouldve been in franchising
T2
Poised, Johnqt, Dazzle, Zander
Good igls who brought their team success and are very likely the up next kind of guys or are already solidified as good but not great
T3
Hazed, Shaz, Steel
Older players who have peaked but are still going to be good igls in the second tier because of their experience (shaz winning a Lan, steel getting to one as well as first strike, Hazed having his best IGLing year last year)
T4
Trick, Frosty, Paincakes
Young guys who have either brought their team to success but fell off(Frosty) or are doing an amazing job in the T2 scene rn(Trick, Paincakes)
HM: Subroza and Ayrin I think are both going to be IGling in another region but they would be here.
Oderus, Vice, and Dazed are also HM for me as I think all 3 have had really high highs as IGLs but haven't quite been a good one in a while but will likely return for franchising.
I like this in general, Munchkin once sentinels are back in the meta will be the guy to play it but I'm not sure if forcing Xeta off of Breach is a good idea. On maps like Haven and Fracture I'd pref him on breach with either Saya or Munchkin on Omen/Brim
Ban: Awper with flex capability
Jett/Chamber Sage Kayo/Skye
Lakia: Very likely just a fade player with some kay/o mixed in
Fade/Kayo
Munchkin: Entry and smokes combo
Omen/Viper/Brim Kayo/Raze
Saya: Full duelist with a bit of omen
Omen Raze/Neon/Jett/Chamber
Xeta: Full support
Sova/Breach also learning Brim/Astra for Bind and Pearl
IDK who IGLS but if they can all learn a few agents (Ban Kayo, Lakia Fade/Kayo, Munchkin smokes, Saya relearn omen, Xeta smokes)
do we really want soulcas as our entry player in 2023? Feels like for a team the level of TL, who should be a top 4 team in EU, throwing out soulcas as your entry when you're facing the likes of alfajer, zypaan, and nukkye it seems like a pretty bad matchup.
3/4 of xms' most played champs are smokes characters what?
I mean as a core what do you prefer? Nats Redgar or Scream Nivera? IK they haven't played internationally this year but the answer is obviously Nats and Redgar. Pair them with jamppi, Nukkye/Molsi, and any of Shao Leo(I think they're on navi/fnc tho) Sheydos or Soulcas for fade.
Moose seems like the perfect fit for c9. The team needs another viper, cypher, and sova player, and Moose is arguably a top 3 sentinel whose best 3 agents are those 3 i mentioned. Plus he can play other smokes and a bit of breach
Are there 10 true initiator players better than him tho? He's obv fallen off but as a 6th man for a team that wants another initiator he's still quite good at breach kayo skye and sage. Better than Jonahp atm imo
IMO he's the best non taco replacement for Nagz. He's one of the few standout LATAM plays all year, awps better than Nagz and has a bit of flexibility. With the changes KRU are making i'd love to see them grab him instead of Nagz
Is there? In my opinion it's kind of the opposite. EU's peak igls are probably better than Na's, I'd probably take Ange1 Redgar Bonecold Boaster Koldamenta over FNS dephh Valyn Stellar and Vanity. On the other hand, NA has Zander, Stellar, Valyn, Johnqt, Boostio, and there are a lot of guys in T2 like Trick, Paincakes, and Runi who seem to be on the come up. In EU it seems like Boo(who isn't really young I think he's vanity's age) and then like Foxie and Hearthbeat from T2 but after that I can't really think of anyone.
Dicey and Tenz>s0m and marved valyn zander supamen zander>s0m on controller. He works well as a 6th man tho
I agree that ardiis is more flexible but Valorant is a team game. You can't compare two players based on the results of their teams, that's just not smart. Yay is a better awper and more of a star player but ardiis is more flexible, both can be true. Yay would fit worse on FPX, Ardiis would fit worse on Optic, that's just the nature of each team.
Well that's probably not the best example seeing as Yay was better on chamber and overall while Ardiis' team was obviously better Yay carried his team whilst ardiis' support players were fragging better than him. I'm fine with you saying they're close but this is a pretty idiotic way to prove your point.
Not really, ik Xeppaa has a high 90 day Raze acs when u click on his profile but that was at an amateur LAN. In VCT this year Zellsis statistically and eye test wise outperformed both Leaf and Xeppaa on Raze, as well as Xeppaa being the best skye player of the 3.
Ascent:
Leaf Jett/Raze/Neon
Vanity Omen
Xeppaa Fade
Yay Chamber
Zellsis Kayo
Bind:
Leaf Viper
Vanity Brim
Xeppaa Skye/Fade
Yay Chamber
Zellsis Raze
Breeze
Leaf Jett
Vanity Viper
Xeppaa Sova'
Yay Chamber
Zellsis Kayo
Fracture
Leaf Neon
Vanity Brim
Xeppaa Fade
Yay Chamber
Zellsis Breach'
Haven
Leaf Raze
Vanity Omen
Xeppaa Fade
Yay Chamber
Zellsis Breach'
Icebox
Leaf Sage
Vanity Viper
Xeppaa Sova'
Yay Chamber
Zellsis Kayo
Pearl
Leaf Neon/Viper
Vanity Astra
Xeppaa Fade
Yay Chamber
Zellsis Kayo/Viper'
'= would have to learn new champs
IMO the only agents they lack are Breach(which I think Zellsis can pick up) and Sova which I think Xeppaa can pick up since he already plays a good fade.Leaf may need to learn kayo and/or get better at sage and viper but in general they only have 2 agents they CANNOT play
FNS
TIER BREAK
Valyn/Stellar
Vanity/Dephh
These should be the only IGL's making franchising and are clearly the 5 best.
SEN:
Zekken
Tenz(still holding out hope but if not then Dicey)
Dapr
Trent
Valyn
Sick 6th man.
That's a fire ass roster right there
I hope s0m is replaced, love the guy and would be a good sixth man but he's not a great awper or entry. I'd prefer they get an awper like Dicey, Tenz, or Bdog and then sign a controller player like marved, supa, skuba or zander with s0m on the bench
I hope they can get Marved as well but if not then Dicey/Tenz and Skuba/Supamen/Zander would be a cool core
Is that confirmed? doesn't really make sense with EEIU there but i guess its an upgrade, if that's the case then Zekken and EEIU instead
Jawgemo
Crashies
Victor
Dephh
Wippie
c0m 6man
Potter
Samsi is holding ACE back so much