hall effect keyboards

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thatpower
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Asked a similar question before but are they THAT nice for valorant/gaming where I should upgrade to one? Thinking of buying a wooting

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I bought my wooting 80HE like a year ago and i can tell you it is a great keyboard with super cool features it gets updates and the ppl at wooting are great, it wont make you immortal immediately but its one of those things where only with these keyboards you can like minmax your movement which can make you aim and look better/more flashy, but it takes practice and time to get used to if you decide to do like 0.1 mm actuation point with SOCD on or something like that

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thatpower
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Nice. Do you use 0.1 actuation on all keys or only for wasd and few others?

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rrScuti
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only wasd and ctrl for crouching, and then i adjust the ones that i definitely dont wanna accidentally hit like my windows button is at the max actuation point

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SturdyPanda
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damn .1 for crouching is insane you moving like a crab

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GarbanzoEnjoyer
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They're pretty snappy but you don't need to upgrade purely for that if money's tight. Wooting is also super overpriced. I recommend Nuphy

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thatpower
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The optimum collab looks sick but it’s $300🥀

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Honestly, you don't need to spend that much. Even the Wooting 80, whilst very nice, isn't absolutely necessary given how many more affordable alternatives there are. Wooting is simply the most reliable brand, but I am currently using a Womier TMR keyboard (TMR is basically like HE, but with some minor differences) and it is a dream to use. Web software, all the bells and whistles, nice hefty weight. Just keep in mind that a lot of the Chinese brand alternatives come from AliExpress so prices can drastically jump and fall.

Highly recommend watching Migss who reviews a ton of mice and keyboards with some benchmarks. on speed.

Side note, if you're looking to upgrade for a better experience, you should really check if your monitor is good enough AKA 240hz. If you're not getting enough frames in game, upgrade the PC. Peripherals come a bit later, but there are plenty of good IEMs, headsets, keyboards and mice.

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Yeah I only considered optimum because of aesthetics.

I’m looking at peripherals because pc parts are so expensive rn. I have a 2060 super and some ryzen cpu which are fine for 144hz 1080p but idk if it’s even worth upgrading to “older” products like the 3-4000 series cards or if I should just wait until prices drop

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You're more than fine to wait a bit longer to cash out for some modern upgrades. You should probably prioritise the CPU upgrade since Valorant is CPU-bound. Try and get a CPU with 3D-cache. The GPU, you can probably get a 3000 or 4000 card, but it might hold you back in more graphics intensive games if you play some solo games.

Migss is definitely the guy to go watch for peripherals. Fresh Reviews is also very solid and covers a range of products like mousepads, IEMs, mice and keyboards. Your monitor could be your priority to upgrade since a 240hz (potentially OLED, but IPS if it's more in your budget) monitor would give you a smoother experience in game.

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rainrain0_0
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I bought a chinese he an Aula for like 70 bucks and I like it

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thatpower
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How is the software?

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serot
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I have one too, its a web configurator, no bloatware install required

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rainrain0_0
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not bad

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I mean HE keyboards are good but if I'm being honest most of the HE keyboards under like $120 while usually they are pretty good quality wise, the software really isn't at the level of the more expensive boards and often times you get either buggy software or drivers. So unless your prepared to spend some money on a keyboard, most budget HE keyboards aren't that superior to ME keyboards.

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thatpower
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I heard a lot of the budget options are prone to bricking or something which makes me bit skeptical cuz I use my stuff for 5+ years

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Personally I have the mchose ace 60 which is actually a pretty high quality budget HE keyboard and it hasn't bricked in the 2 years I've had it, but at the same time the software is pretty lackluster and there are still some annoying bugs that happen from time to time.

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acels
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wooting and normal keyboard feels the same tbh

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Chetin
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If you play with low enough ping it can give you a little tiny bit of advantage once you master it but imo is not worth it since mechanical keyboards for the same price are better quality and/or better typing experience

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yes, they are vital IF you are a high rank (immortal+). they definetely give you a noticeable difference and a competitive advantage, ONLY if you are actually good and in high lobbies, where a strafe or the speed of your strafing actually matters

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delighted
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TMR >

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archetype
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i hit rad before getting it but i dont think i could play without it atp. the difference is very noticeable if you are high elo

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thatpower
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If it’s like that, I might need to cop. What keyboard do you recommend?

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SturdyPanda
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wooting for sure, a little pricey but the amount of customization that you have with their software makes up for it

#20
thatpower
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Bet. Is there a particular switch you recommend? I heard the lekker tikkens and gateron jades are good

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SturdyPanda
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I went with the GEON Raw 50g switches because they had the least amount of wobble and didnt want to worry about having to lube the switches (factory lubing is on point with these). They sound and feel great.

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thatpower
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Thanks I’ll check it out

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archetype
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i just use the default wooting 60he, and swap keyboards when i play val or not. ive never tried any other HE keyboards so i cant give an opinion on them

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thatpower
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Thx boss. I’ll probably buy a wooting

#18
tv0rusluke
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I use ajazz ak680 cause it costs like 35$ and is pretty insane

#22
kumi
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do a human benchmark reaction time test, if u get sub 190ms average, u will see the benefit. if not, skip

#28
serot
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lmfao what
not how it works bro

even if you have slow reaction time you literally still stop faster, its objectively an improvement

#31
kumi
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i wear my kobes to the gym but i still don't make my shots!

#37
TentacleThing
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But your more likely to hit your shots wearing Kobe's or any basketball shoes than if you were to wear another type of shoe like flip flops.

#39
kumi
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lmfao what
not how it works bro

even if you exchange your flip flops you literally can buy younger eyes and hands on the black market, its objectively an improvement to your jumpshot

#29
Madouza
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what does that mean?

I use a ducky one 3, never understood what hall effect meant.

#30
thatpower
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Hall effect switches use magnets and sensors which detects user input much faster compared to traditional mechanical ones, making it more responsive

#32
Tyzehhxo
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picking up the new G512 x TMR next week, been looking at HE and TMR keyboards for awhile now and i really like the look and features of the logitech.

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thatpower
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i like the aesthetic but apparently only 39 key positions have tmr sensors and they're only providing 9 switches... which might be good enough for gaming but idk it might feel awkward outside of it

#36
Tyzehhxo
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i mean ngl why do you need hall effect or TMR switches for typing, i like that its only on 9, it makes alot of sense, no way you need instant reaction when typing.

#38
thatpower
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true but typing could get awkward if some switches are different than others

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kfan4238173
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tbh i dont notice a huge difference but i hit new peak soon after buying one

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