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#1
wizzamv
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so fnatic had this guy benched sub in for leo and they just throw him like that when he is legit goated

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sentinelmain377
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https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2097/valorant-champions-2024

Derke and Chron were doing crazy numbers, and Alfajer was higher than Hiro, but they only got 5th-6th

https://www.vlr.gg/378834/sentinels-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-2024-lr2

Hiro was ass

ppl keep forgetting that Chronicle is the GOAT for a reason

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teilwal
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Dont look at bumicles stats vs statspass

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sentinelmain377
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u do know that Chronicle has better stats all time at globals right (that too with an extra event)?

Chronicle:
Role: Initiator -> Flex (Controller, Duelist) -> Flex (Sentinel, Initiator) -> Sentinel
Global Events attended: 12/19 (M3 21, C 21, M1 23, M2 23, C 23, M2 24, C 24, M2 25, EWC 25, C 25, M2 26, EWC 26)
Top 1: 3
Top 2: 7
Top 4: 9
Top 8: 12

Global Ratings: Average = 1.13

Total Rounds: 3328
- 1.26 * (306 rounds)
- 1.19 * (356 rounds)
- 1.10 * (307 rounds)
- 1.19 * (210 rounds)
- 0.94 * (270 rounds)
- N/A (China)
- 1.21 * (293 rounds)
- 1.13 * (419 rounds)
- 1.30 * (279 rounds)
- 1.07 * (453 rounds)
- 1.07 * (260 rounds)
- 0.90 * (175 rounds)
(1.26*306 + 1.19*356 + 1.10*307 + 1.19*210 + 0.94*270 + 1.21*293 + 1.13*419 + 1.30*279 + 1.07*453 + 1.07*260 + 0.90*175)/3328
Average rating with rounds for each stat being weighted: 1.13032151442 -> 1.13

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Aspas:
Role: Duelist
Global Events attended: 11/19 (M1 22, M2 22, C 22, M1 23, M2 23, C 23, M2 24, C 24, M2 25, C 25, EWC 26)
Top 1: 1
Top 2: 3
Top 4: 5
Top 8: 8

Global Ratings: Average = 1.11

Total Rounds: 2721
- 1.18 (240 rounds)
- 1.04 (136 rounds)
- 0.99 (366 rounds)
- 1.11 (380 rounds)
- 1.11 (80 rounds)
- 1.15 (515 rounds)
- N/A (China)
- 1.14 (407 rounds)
- 0.53 (71 rounds)
- 1.33 (330 rounds)
- 1.01 (196 rounds)
(1.18*240 + 1.04*136 + 0.99*366 + 1.11*380 + 1.11*80 + 1.15*515 + 1.14*407 + 0.53*71 + 1.33*330 + 1.01*196)/2721
Average rating with rounds being weighted: 1.11293642043 -> 1.11
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teilwal
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what about games played on lan servers only

#14
sentinelmain377
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chron is still better lol (I removed that specific calculation cuz EWC is a real tournament to anyone with more than 1 brain cell)

Chronicle without EWC: 1.12787404315 -> 1.13

(1.26*306 + 1.19*356 + 1.10*307 + 1.19*210 + 0.94*270 + 1.21*293 + 1.13*419 + 1.07*453 + 1.07*260)/(3328-279-175)

Aspas without EWC: 1.12092673267 -> 1.12

(1.18*240 + 1.04*136 + 0.99*366 + 1.11*380 + 1.11*80 + 1.15*515 + 1.14*407 + 0.53*71 + 1.33*330)/(2721-196)
#15
teilwal
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also without shanghai

#17
sentinelmain377
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there are no ratings for china so it's not included

but it wouldnt make much of a difference since both chron and aspas got eliminated early at the event (minimal rounds). There is a reason why I am doing weighted stats instead of just an average of all the stats. For example, the 0.53 from Aspas matters much less since he only played 71 rounds at Toronto 25 compared to like 1.33 rating with 330 rounds at Champs 25.

also let's say Chron does go under Aspas with no Shanghai and no EWC (removing both is pretty weird btw), the gap would be too small for a guy playing breach/sage versus the biggest baiter in the history of Val. Chronicle definitely clears (in both stats and placements)

#18
teilwal
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Chron without top 10 all time players on his team is playing like kon4n if we are being honest

#19
sentinelmain377
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aspas has 0 trophies without god-like players carrying him btw

Chronicle was carrying on Gambit and he's been great on FNATIC (5 global finals, good performances at multiple tournaments). Now he's also making top 4 with VIT (MIBR has 0 top 4s)

#20
teilwal
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aspas finals mvp but sure "carried" unlike chron with no official accolades

https://x.com/ValorantEsports/status/1575497361433903104

#6
wizzamv
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the sen vs fnc game was banger

#24
W1ngFly
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JohnQT masterclass

#27
Conceit
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I thought you were retiring

#29
sentinelmain377
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https://www.vlr.gg/712994/announcing-retirement

"coming back when EU wins 1 trophy"

clearly you can't read/have memory loss since Nbs just won a trophy for EU. Nbs is the GOAT Coach of Valorant now with a Champs + EWC (greater than Mini's Mickey//IN and Masters)

#33
Conceit
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Lol you don't need this dumb excuse you can just come back if you can't stay away no one cares

#34
sentinelmain377
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Lol you don't need this dumb reply

#3
catNmouse
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he was never meant to be a starting player, at that time leo’s status on the team was unknown and fnatic were clearly banking on him coming back so they let hiro go. obviously that did not happen and they instead got crashies as a replacement

#5
wizzamv
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yea but after chron left they should had got him

#8
Useless_Miks_Ult
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How the fuck were they going to get him from NAVI

#9
catNmouse
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he chose to stay with navi

#16
sjena
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Hiro is the highest paid player in EMEA im pretty sure that buyout was not happening

#7
t0t0_wolff
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They needed a proper initiator so they benched him for bumshies

#10
Pomshies
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He was never even close to this good for Fnatic

#13
Ranger45
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Fraudunatic

#30
need4speed
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i think its kinda like the patmen thing where pat was really meant to be temporary because prx already has their eyes set on invy who is overall a better initiator?

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