Top 5 initiators all time

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Leo
Sacy
Shao
4/5. Trent
4/5. Brawk

No, Crashies is not top 5, yes Shao is top 5.

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Riens owns trent

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cant play skye lol

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Dudhi

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yes cuz shao has done so much more than crashies

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Yea he has an international tournament mvp. He accomplished more in cph than Crashies did in his entire career

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Crashies had a better 2022 than him though?

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LOL no the fuck he didn’t. Yay and Marved had a better 2022, Crashies just came along for the ride, pretty much the story of crashies’s career.

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crashies:
won reyjkavik
3rd copenhagen
2nd champs 22
4th tokyo
2nd toronto
2nd champs 25

shao:
mvp'd copenhagen
3rd-4th lockin

do you hear yourself?

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Crashies: team accomplishments, worst player on the team for most of those events

Shao: best player on a trophy winning team.

If you watch basketball, this is like comparing Robert Horry to Giannis

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worst comparison ever lmao u are a retard, crashies has been a top initiator in americas and emea and was one of the most clutch players in 2022, robert horry was a fat bench player his whole career

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"team accomplishments"

yeah and shao has done so well ever since the disbandment of FPX lol, did so good in fact he's dropped now.

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the fact shao is on this list at all, let alone top 3, is laughable

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You started watching valorant in 2024, you don’t understand greatness

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“greatness” is peaking in one tournament i suppose

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thats what ur flair is going to be remembered for so

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Less won’t be remembered at all

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I_LOVE_LESS

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thats why you made a youtube video about him right

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Oh, you sweet summer child…

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comparing less to a whole organization, yall nrg fans trying to cope

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your girl brought up my flair brodie

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Shao also played better in champs 2022, lock in, and would’ve played better at Reykjavik if it weren’t for the visa situation

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Great

idk how this puts him in top 3 lmao

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Fine I’ll move brawk to 3, and replace shao with Riens, better? Crashies is still nowhere near this list

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Dudhi

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i'll agree with this

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shrike-

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Yes

An actual top 5

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and me the platinum sova player w 600 tracker score

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you're interchangable with shao

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Galactc

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Next trophy lifter 🙏

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Shao

there arent enough "son" variants for this

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Vyantic

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Fruit SONch

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riens > tr0nt, trent 1 internatioanl grand final, riens 3

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At least you said riens and not Crashies

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Leo
Sacy
crashies
stax
RieNs

HM: Shao

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We aren’t putting role players in a top 5. This is like putting Robert Horry in your basketball top 5 or Dani Alves in your soccer top 5

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what are you even talking about

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elite ball knowledge

all the newbies complaining about Shao

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Yeah I mean they’re all just wrong, the issue is most of the people on this site never watched 2023, let alone 2022. They don’t know that ange1 ruined shao’s career by forcing him off of recon

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yeah or they are just heavy americas biased

and yeah putting shao on perma smokes was the worst decision they could have made i feel so bad for him man he was clearly one of the best init. players oat at his peak

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1) jawgemo

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holy fucking shao sneak

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Riens all time >> trent all time

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Crashies instead of shao mate shao was more of a flex when he won and after Lock in he fell off

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Crashies has no noteworthy performances ever

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people dont know Shao was Leo before Leo was Leo. Best Fade itw

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Lock in Shao was the greatest initiator tournament of all time so I can get behind this

Also he mvped Copenhagen so yea

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WHY DOES NO ONE REALIZE THAT SACY IN #2 is the BIGGEST SNEAK of ALL TIME

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n1cf

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he the goat

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Sha0 sneak

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I’m down for

Leo
Sacy
Riens
Trent
Shao

Even maybe sacy over Leo but that’s not an opinion I’d fully support

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initiator skill:

Leo
Sacy
Trent
Brawk
Shao
Chronicle (2021, 2024)
RieNs
Crashies

aim skill:

Leo
RieNs
Chronicle
Shao
Sacy
Trent
Brawk
Crashies

success:

Chronicle (if u include him)
Crashies (11 globals, 8 top 4s, 6 top 2s, 1 top 1)
Sacy (8 globals, 4 top 4s, 3 top 2s, 2 top 1s)
Leo (5 globals, 3 top 4s, 2 top 2s, 2 top 1s)
RieNs (6 (8 after London & EWC26) globals, 3 top 4s, 3 top 2s, 1 top 1)
Shao (6 globals, 3 top 4s, 1 top 2, top 1)
Brawk (3 (4 after London) globals, 2 top 4s, 1 top 2, 1 top 1)
Trent (8 (9 after London) globals, 4 top 4s, 1 top 2, 0 top 1)

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Dudhi

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me (leo)
trent
riens
brawk
shao