Give top10
1.derke
2.aspas
3.jinggg
4.jawgemo
5.zmjjkk
6.zekken
7.t3xure
8.buzz
9.something
10.mada
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who is the best duelists player of all time?
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just because he plays duelists and is mid on entry doesn't make him a good duelist
for entry alone jinggg clears something
so duelists are hard to compare because they are different, it should be split into 2 roles kinda like in cs - entry fragger and AWPer (if no AWP, secondary entry or bait)
because Jawgemo has been consistently a top tier duelist and Demon1 had one good tournament.
primmie clears all. kaajak missing. sayonara and cyv0ph will make the list soon
not my problem most of the site doesn’t know ball. they’re stuck onto the past and don’t understand the fresher players with a higher skill ceiling are going to take over
i said they’ll make the list “soon”. it seems like you are the one who can’t read
Neither sayonara nor cyvoph are duelists
Primmie also can’t get past something
what are u on? sayonara plays phoenix and raze. cyv0ph plays phoenix and iso. and Primmie is in his own league compared to something haha, saying that as a prx fan, something’s way too inconsistent
i think you just have surface level analysis skills and u probably think something is better than primmie just because prx beat fs today. it’s a team game, primmie is the better individual. stay dumb you absolute npc
I’m pretty sure the list is trying to said main duelists, sayo and cyvoph are flex players
Something is in fact inconsistent, but he has had many good tournaments; primmie can surpass him with time, he just needs to, you know, play a few tournaments
I see flex players that partially play duelist as duelists because they only do that to accommodate the team or because they also excel in other roles, i see that as a plus and they always perform well as duelists. something is way better in what he achieved but on an individual level it’s hard to say he’s better rn
u r braindead bruh...this list clearly has permanent duelist players irrespective of the meta how are u bringing flex players in this list+ the flex duelists u r mentioning are not even entry players they are legit the fragging duelist btw
So ur saying jamppi is also a duelist since he played yoru? Or Alfa cuz he played raze in earlier years and this year? Like the fact some people play duelist doesn’t MEAN THEY ARE INHERENTLY DUELIST PLAYERS (such as flex players)
braindead npc fan, i didnt expect much more. its a team game and PRX is the better team. Primmie is the better individual. get that through your thick skull please. I am a PRX fan myself, and even Jinggg is better and more consistent than something
at his peak yes, but t3xture lacks longevity. did nothing before, had one really good year in 24 and then he kinda did nothing again (apart from toronto). and you cant really argue about longevity against prx, only if you are fnatic
HE WAS LITTREALLY PLAYING IN TIER 2 AND SENTI ON GE WHT DO YOU WANT HIM TO DO??
stop typing in caps looks really stupid
also when comparing all time you need to factor in longevity, texture had great 24, mid 25 (toronto was insane) thats it, the same reason you can't put newer players in this list (kaajak)
being good for two years in this game is pretty good longevity imo
it wasn't that he did nothing, GENG as a whole just kinda sucked for half of 2025 and all of this year
he is still their best player imo, maybe in contention with karon
that doesn't matter much when most of the names in the lists have been doing good for 3-4 years
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t3xture is great and is on a mid team, and he will be up there once he gets a better team and comes back to internationals and starts doing crazy shit again more regularly on the highest level
alfa was playing senti
nats was playing viper/senti
less was playing senti/viper
meteor got a fucking mvp on the senti role
if u can not frag in t2 i'm sorry ur not qualified for t1
WELL HE IS FRAGGING IN TIER 1 DIDNT IN TIER 2 SO TEXTURE IS SHIT RIGHT NOT QUALIFIED DO YOU NOT REALSIE ROLES DECIDES A LOT OF THINGS HE LIKES TO OP SMTHING LIKES TO OP WHY DO YOU think when smthing was playing sova breach pre tornto he was not good ??
nats uses snipers on sentinel...
texture could do that
something used to be one of the better breach players in pacific for a while(2023-2024), and he was very good at sova last year champs (got a 2v5 ace)
Well if you see a list with Something and wants to call Aspas a sneak for being a baiter it just means you are not a serious person
NOPE ASPAS DOESNT WANT TO ENTRY LOOK AT ROUND 20 FROM FRACTURE IN TODAY VS 100 THIEVES HE LITREALLY ENTRYED WITH A OP OR ROUND BEFORE WHERE TEX HAD TO ENTRY IN A 2V2 BECAUSSE ASPAS DIDNT WANT TO AND IF YOU ASK HIM TO PLAY SOLO YORU ENTRY HE CANNOT IF HE KNEW HOW TO PLAY YORU..
Derke is much better internationally while Aspas is better regionally. depends on what you value more 😉
you talk like aspas hasnt missed events either lol
hes about to go 0/2 for internationals with this mibr superteam btw 😬
- Zekken ?????????????????????????????????? over texture and smthg ? ur on crack
Zekken for sure better than smthg but not texture. smthg is not a complete duelist, same argument for jingg
yea talk abt the past, the game was cooked anyways, + https://www.vlr.gg/596424/cloud9-vs-leviat-n-vct-2026-americas-kickoff-lr3/?game=all&tab=overview nice talent
we are a completely different team since kickoff, and considering ur team is marteen and friends u have little room to speak, also u brought the past up by saying hes been a 1.6kd player for "months"
yea ? he did great for months ? so why are we talking abt 1 game in a BO5 to say that he's bad ? what did zekken do since madrid ? + my link on sato perf was just to prove u that it's braindead to just take one game and trash a player
No order:
Derke (living off 2023, good agent pool apart from neon)
TenZ (farmed 2021)
Yay (on ENVY/OPTIC world class duellist (more on envy cuz chamber but idc))
Kaajak (the uncrowned king of 2025)
Aspas ( insane in 2022/2023, good after that)
Texture ( good agent pool, dominated 2024)
Forsaken (iirc the rookie duellist talent in 2021?, now flex but good agent pool, good on duellist)
zekken (good agent pool, pretty good in 2024, now getting baited by aspas)
Kankang (china farmer)
Me
derke (longevity and consistency and goat)
aspas (worst season of his life)
jinggg (ova consistent and impactfull)
something (can have bad games but 70% of his games 1.6kd)
texture (not consistent)
jaw (i think people overate him a bit)
kangkang (ghosting since champ 2024)
zekken (ghosting since madrid but consistent player)
the rest are buzz mada and kaajak that i remember but surely theyre not better than these people
zekken inexistant since madrid so behind jaw , an kang kang overated (not incredible since champs 2024) idk tell me what u think abt it
zekken has good in champs 24 and toronto maybe something over him and jaw was never the best player in his team apart from eg 2024, kang kang and jinggg is close but the duelist pool makes me put kang kang over him
Demon1 rn clears mada
Champs mvp and 2nd place finish Tokyo beats champs winner and 3rd place Santiago
guy makes top 10 duelist list -> puts j0ng #3 -> checks flair -> PRX -> I understand it now
I'd put Kaajak #10 and Mada #11 or 12. I think Kaajak was far better than Mada VCT 2025 and a good duelist in 2026. Heck, I'll even say it, Kaajak was arguably the MVP of VCT 2025. But this year with no qualification and Adam being a WC, I can see why you'd put Adam #10.
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