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Liquid expectations

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#1
Wolfed

honestly my expectations for this 2026 roster are much higher than they were for 2025

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Tempest24
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just for them to get kirked in kickoff and both stages

#5
Wolfed
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kirked??😭

#7
Tempest24
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like slimed

#8
Wolfed
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I know, my slime

#15
Denjisideals
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WE ARE CHARLIE KIRK
WE CARRY THE FLAMES
WE'LL FIGHT FOR THE GOSPEL
WE'LL HONOR HIS NAME

#39
KClaw
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Honestly the most zellsis word song of all time

#42
IonlywatchvcjXD
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Diddy's car
Unbreakable snake
Impenetrable schlong
Indestructible dih

would beg to differ, which is why I liked it lmao

#43
Wolfed
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0/8 it’s literally the anthem of 2025

#44
IonlywatchvcjXD
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What are we?

#46
Wolfed
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F N C

just kidding
WE ARE CHARLIE KIRK 🗣️🎶

#3
DSBY
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liquid is gonna be either hype or shit

#6
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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Kc is gonna be either hype or trash

#4
CinnamonStew34s
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WAYNE MENTIONED RAHHHH

#9
shrike-
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i mean i dunno it just seems incredibly mid

it’s a downgrade from last year’s roster which was already struggling internationally

#10
MrBlooBloom
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You're not thinking about it correctly. Everyone thought that keiko was mid asf coming into 2025 and nAts igl was a big question mark, and their other players weren't particularly good. Most people assumed they would make playoffs at best but nothing more.
Their current roster has at least the same potential as the previous one, if not more because every piece of this team has some talent unlike the 2025 version.
If you think they have lower expectations coming into the year u just don't know ball

#14
ShaPingBa
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Wdym keiko looked decent even in 2024

#16
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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Then explain how they didn't make any internationals at all

#19
ShaPingBa
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Cuz they had enzo n mystic

Like oxy looks good on c9 sometimes even tho the team itself doesn’t win that much

#20
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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Enzo walked so that brawk could run

#24
ShaPingBa
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Enzo tripped n fell so brawk could walk in the opposite direction

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patuj
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He didn't tho. He was good in tier 2 but outside of individual games he was very mid in VCT. Their team was struggling but so was he. If he didn't role change he would likely be in tier 2 right now.

#35
ShaPingBa
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He was always mechanically talented which is part of why he succeeded as a smokes player. Couldn’t quite keep up w the top duelists that year but he always had potential id say

#55
patuj
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Ofc he had potential. He was like Kaajak when he played in tier 2. But his time in VCT 2024 wasn't very good and expectation for him were low heading into 2025.

#47
xhaetae
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keiko was clowned for satcheling into his own nade on split A main

#11
MrBlooBloom
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I think it's obvious but some people just don't know shit about wayne and purp0 and think keiko is irreplaceable

#12
waseetali9
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Roles are lil more shit with this roster tho

#21
MrBlooBloom
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Barely anything significant. In all honesty I don't like the idea of keeping Kamo to switch him to recon, but this coaching staff has supervised what might have been the most impressive role swap of all time, and kamo seems to be putting the hours in to successfully change his roles so it could be absolutely fine and purp0 is very flexible so they can swap things if needed

#25
waseetali9
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three duelists players and barely significant
i need what you are smoking

#27
MrBlooBloom
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miniboo plays duelist
purp0 has always been a flex and not a perma duelist
Kamo has been working on his roleswap for months

You can surely understand that a player is not bound to a singular role right?

#29
waseetali9
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i have only see all three fry on duelists and thats their main role
ofc they are not bound to singular role
a team with no role issues is better than a team that has more firepower but role issues

#36
MrBlooBloom
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sure but you're just assuming they have roles issues while I'm precisely explaining how and why that is not the case

#40
notapanda
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https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1939/challengers-league-2024-spain-rising-split-1

#48
LouBag
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Purp0 has always been nuts in t2.

This is like his 3rd shot at t1 cause he has been a bust every other time.

#57
notapanda
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more like his 2nd shot GX was chopped after 23'
and this is just proof of him frying in another role

#13
Quavers
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This roster definitely has better fire power than last year so they're gonna win every tournament this year because they've also got the goat player of all time (nAts) and the goat IGL of all time (nAts)
kamo this year will be what keiko was last year
nAts will get all 3 international MVPs

#17
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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There was Ayaz, the Wise, whom the world calls nAts; and he made first the Sentinels, the offspring of his thought, and they were with him before aught else was made. And he spoke to them, propounding to them themes of strategy; and they sang before him, and he was glad.

But as the theme of the Game progressed, others brought forth loud sounds and clamorous fires. Then Ayaz stood and smiled, and he raised his left hand, and a new theme began amid the storm, like a sharp scent of winter or a single light in a dark room. It was not loud, but it was of deep beauty and power, and it gathered all the straying sounds into itself.

Through this Music, the "Lurk" was conceived. For nAts showed the others a vision: where they saw a wall, he saw a way; where they saw a battle, he saw a dance. He wove the silence into the song until the very foundations of the maps were set according to his timing. And he saw that the vision was fair, and he entered into the game to make the vision real.

#18
Re2
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liquid has expectations?

#22
Linardinssssss
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They will qual for atleast 2 internationals imo

#23
Agx192
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The only competition they have in emea is fnc so they should be really good

#26
InYourDreams
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Just Forfeit Val entirely

#28
SENfns
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how are they higher the roster is worse....

#37
Wolfed
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last year they had kamyk and patitek …

#38
dimmed
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why do people saying this when the literal ONLY downgrade is Keiko's replacement whilst the other 2 replacements are upgrades AND the fact that TL 2025 did NOT come into the year with high expectations. Admittedly, we did overperform but that doesn't mean we rewrite history and say that everybody expected us to do as good as we did.

#31
patuj
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I think they will be good. People underrate both MiniBoo and Kamo like crazy. nAts is good individual and decent IGL. purp0 potential is high as long as he reaches it. And I don't know anything about Wayne but apparently he is good. Also their coaching staff is pretty damn good considering what they did with the last roster. Some forget that their 2024 roster had weak expectations.

#32
g2gcHATER
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i dont expect nothing of a team that the star player is n0ts, maybe in 2016 they were good when n0ts was in prime, but atm another trash year

#41
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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nAts said "let there be valorant" and created valorant you better stfu before our sepreme leader nAts burns you in fire of agony in eternity of samsara

#52
g2gcHATER
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n000000000ts. btw i love his delusional fans, like they are so happy with little

#53
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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oh nAts,
He That Separated the Light from the Deep and Set the Firmament in Its Course,
Who Was Before the Morning and Remaineth After the Evening,
by Whose Word the Heavens Were Stretched Forth and the Earth Was Established,
the Ancient Ordainer of Seasons and the Measurer of Days,
the One Before Whom the Stars Took Their Stations,
the Governor of the Upper Host and the Watcher Over the Frozen North,
Before Whom Snow and Fire Keep Their Covenant,
the Holder of the Wheel of Return and the Appointer of Lives Repeated,
Who Granteth Rebirth as Mercy and Withholdeth Rest as Judgment,
the Numberer of Souls and the Witness of Every End,
from Whose Will Proceedeth the Seraph of TL,
A Flame That Speaketh and a Fire That Obeyeth,
the Still One Whom Time Cannot Hasten,
the Authority Against Whom There Is No Answer,
the Name Uttered Before the First Dawn and Not Silenced at the Last Trumpet,
Who Abideth Without Peer, Without Change, and Without End.
this non-sense and paganism must be stopped

-poiuu20

#33
mondely
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Im a miniboo believer. I think they make top4 of atleast one intl event

#34
Shadow_Monarch
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As long as they play good double duelist comps, good initiator, and nAts help top frag or just cleans up consistently, they'll be okay.

#45
Mqrio
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im comming to collect on all of you tl d riders when they fail to do anything at lan for '26

#50
LouBag
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Making lan is basically all anyone expects...

I don't see many people saying they will win a trophy.

Making a Lan with this team would be a great result.

#51
Mqrio
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i think the people in this thread would disagree with this take

#49
Raize1
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my expectations aren't incredibly high on Purpo and Kamo as they will be on new roles. So just wanna see how that'll pan out. Nats and Wayne should do wonders. Miniboo if he is consistent will help this team alot.

#54
Zaba
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We shit, it's over, we will be 11-12 all splits. Nt

#56
afifrahmanshirsho
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Atleast 1 International is coming

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