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f0rsakeN astra

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#1
Monsteiur

Anyone got any giga brain clip from f0rsakeN playing astra. Like f0rsakeN is one of the best controller players currently but i can’t seems to remember him on astra very much.

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catNmouse
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He played it a lot in the recent offseason tournament

#3
SkyXD
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yeah because astra is only played on a very select few maps, so naturally his sample size on omen etc is more (he doesn’t have any on astra other than gunplay clips prolly)
idt astra is a very clippable agent if you don’t have complete mastery of her, there was this one clip of someone playing her on lotus a site and it was absolutely insane but idk who it was

#4
cloudberry
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There's that one Odin 3k on round 24 of Pearl against... EG? I can't remember, it was Champs 2023 though

#5
Monsteiur
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yeah but that was gun play, back then he wasn't very good on astra, just decent

#10
catNmouse
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he was on KJ in that clip

#11
Monsteiur
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i think he was referring to mindfreak 3k or the odin spam which i thought was just 2k

#21
cloudberry
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Oh you're right mb

#6
dimmed
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Look Radiant International Invitational. That's literally where HALF his Astra playtime is. You lucky, we had this event since otherwise it'd be another agent people would say f0rsaken can play for having 18 rounds on them.

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SkyXD
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i think the criteria for “can play” is 20+ games and 1.00+ rating

that being said

20+ games only
CONSISTENCY:
f0rsakeN: 1.21 Jett, 1.13 Raze, 1.13 Omen, 1.21 Sova, 1.09 Neon, 1.05 Yoru, 1.19 Kayo, 1.10 Skye, 1.02 Breach, 1.20 Chamber, 1.02 Harbour, 1.15 KJ, 1.05 Fade
(1.2125 rating across 12 agents, 4D 2C 5I 1S)
Chronicle: 1.14 Sova, 1.18 Viper, 1.13 Breach, 1.16 Raze, 1.09 Brim, 1.06 Kayo, 1.14 Chamber, 1.04 Cypher (1.1175 rating across 8 agents, 1D 2C 3I 2D)

jason has a higher rating across more agents. consistency +1

AGENT POOL:
agents with 20+ games played (duelist/controller/initiator/sentinel)
f0rsakeN: Jett Raze Omen Sova Neon Yoru Kayo Skye Breach Chamber Harbour KJ Fade (4/2/5/1)
Chronicle: Sova Viper Breach Raze Brim Kayo Chamber Cypher (1/2/3/2)

jason could win based on the fact that he plays duelist alone, but he also plays more types of initiators which is great!! agent pool +1

you can say chron has more games on his upper agents but isn’t that worse. less even distribution among your flex agents.

if you value both of these criterion then f0rsakeN clears chronicle AS A FLEX!!

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dimmed
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The way I wasn't even comparing him to chronicle but more so just generally criticising people who claim f0rsaken is the best flex because can play 22/29 agents or something but when you look closer then he's just has less than 100 rounds on half them. Like I am saying it's stupid to measure how great a flex is for based on the numbers of agents they've played instead of how good they are at each role. (Like calling Jawgemo the best duelist because he can play 8/8 duelist)

I think if you actually want to compare the two then it's best to look at each role individually and see who clears in which case they are probably tied since duelist, controller f0rsaken >> chronicle but initiator, sentinel chronicle >> f0rsaken. Probably have to give another criteria for a tie break but I am too tired right and don't really care either way

#9
SkyXD
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yeah i was just baiting its my copypasta
overall imo f0rsakeN better because his ini and sen are both above average and chron’s duelist apart from his raze is nowhere (although that’s because he’s never had to play duelist)

#16
twigster001
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you don't need to play duelist when you have duelists like Derke and Kajaak

#19
Mebi
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PRX: "aight bet" -runs 3 duelists

#17
JonahPork
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Ratings outside of franchising are meaningless unless they’re at international events

#12
mondely
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its his best fragging agent in recent time

#13
bearmans
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i think it's only recently that he picked up astra.
so, his play might not be giga brain but his util placement is good enough.

#14
SkyXD
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he has always played astra when the map called for it (pearl)

#18
bearmans
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haven and corrode were new.

#20
SkyXD
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true

#22
MrBlooBloom
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you can't really do giga big brain plays with astra util other than playing with fake smokes and walls, cuz the util is literally unflexible in terms of positionning so it doesn't allow for much creativity

#15
ynuser
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https://youtu.be/VzYNgtMOjJ4?si=PfSHoH_yKtf12PgK
Okay it's a jingg clip but f0rsaken astra on this map was crazy good

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