My list after thinking for a total of 30 seconds:
- Meteor
- MaKo
- f0rsaken
- t3xture
- something
My list after thinking for a total of 30 seconds:
he has cultural impact
controllers all over the world were inspired by him
If you're solely talking about Pacific then brother PRX has like 3 Pacific titles lmao, f0rsakeN should be 1 and something should be like 2 or 3 according to the same reason why people place Chronicle as the #1 in the overall GOAT status
I was thinking about overall VCT and cultural impact
b0tnicle is not even close to #1 in EMEA tho. Kaajak in his first year is already the EMEA MVP. b0tnicle in 3 years never got a single MVP, backpack superteam merchant masterclass as always
How is forsaken not #1 then if it's overall vct and cultural impact? I would even put mako in #1 for overall impact. Prx and vs/drx players have been making impact in the scene since the very beginning. Especially vs players or termi.
Because Meteor has 2/3 of all Pacific trophies, and he did it in 2 different teams, thats too tuff
Way less cultural impact tho than forsaken or even mako. Also his impact started being shown only since 2024 when he was under solo and hsk in geng. If it's based on overall vct and cultural impact then doesn't make sense why vs or prx players aren't in top for apac.
But I think the VCT results of Meteor takes over by a little margin
This guy was extremely impactful in arguably the most dominant Pacific team of all time (prime GENG 2024) and saved Valorant with T1 against G2 Tejo terrorism
Then don't say the list is based on overall vct and cultural impact. The list is still debatable even then tbh since forsaken has multiple top ranking finishes in champs and other events too. Longevity and consistency matters a lot. I would put mako above forsaken if he had a trophy tho.
If it's based on overall vct and cultural impact
Forsaken
Mako
Meteor
Jingg
Stax
If it's based on achievements and longevity then
Forsaken
Meteor
Something/jingg/davai
Texture/stax/buzz
Mako/karon
Anyway it's really hard to create a top 5 list for apac especially if it's based on overall achievements
The only thing mako did without buzz n stax was 3rd at champs while they both have a trophy
I can't support Mako above f0rsaken, when Mako only has his longevity and being the 'undisputed' controller Goat. Longevity is fine but I feel like Mako being called the controller Goat is a bit fraudulent since I feel like he's just never ever been the best controller and just wins due to lack of competition. Like his closest competitor is maybe boaster? but because boaster isn't a fragger people aren't going to see him as that. Currently there are better controllers than Mako but it feels wrong to put them above him oat because they lack his longevity
Maybe I am just a hater but I say f0rsaken #2, Mako #3
longevity and being the 'undisputed' controller Goat
thats already a lot imo, its an entire role where hes been a reference since the beginning
You could the say the same for f0rsaken on the flex role, f0rsaken is the GOAT flex after all, but I think MaKo has been more consistent over the years
I'm not denying it's a lot but I think f0rsaken's overall career has been better results-wise so I want to put him above. But I guess I could understand the argument since f0rsaken being the Goat flex is more debated than Mako as Goat controller
all 5 players on this list are better than stax and buzz
stax and buzz would probably be in the Top 10 with other players like Karon and Jinggg