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Mindfreak and JonahP

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#1
laifu

I get they have achieved so much but lets be real both of these guys have 0 space in today's tier 1 landscape, especially with so many rookies emerging

Jonah will be forced to play in tier 2 NA (C9 and NV won't pick him, just because he doesn't fit in role wise) and mindfreak will be forced to play in VCL indonesia

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hellfire
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its certainly not because of talent

#3
kyro1
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jonah was the best support player of last year??? wym no space in tier 1 ppl rlly dont understand this game lol

#7
laifu
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understand what? C9 needs a scan and Envy needs a smokes/duelist player
Jonah isn't gonna replace anyone on the FURIA rebuild either

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kyro1
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yeah he might miss kickoff bc so many rosters are locked but he will fs have a team in tier 1 for stage 1

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Ronyko23
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Mindfreak was never worst prx player. It was def davai..

#8
catNmouse
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davai was not that bad

#10
rErebus_
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Maybe at the time but david has been crazy recently

#16
Ronyko23
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yeah he stepped up after that. But that self flash was funny asf

Now patmen is worst shooter in team

#18
laifu
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how you gonna go 2/2 on bad takes

#21
rErebus_
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He’s slotted in very well though considering prx is a unique team, and he’s the closest thing to an igl they have

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laifu
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davai sacrficed his roles just so mindfreak can play exclusively controller

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dimmed
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yes because davai played sooo much omen/astra and really got sabotaged by mindfreak playing exclusively smokes. (sarcasm)

The only real overlap in their roles was viper

#28
laifu
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so why was jinggg and something forced to learn new roles last year, they desperately needed another player who can play different roles

mindfreak looked bang on average playing senti before he got benched for pat

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dimmed
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alecks literally explained the reasoning but no lets just jump to conclusions. I actually don't know why but I feel today vlr is being particularly dumb, the actual reasoning im sure you can find but to summarise:

  • Wanted really good initiator player
  • Something/jinggg learnt new roles because double duel not viable everywhere
#31
laifu
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That's what I exactly said he got benched for pat

Who was way more vocal than mindfreak with less experience in tier 1 mind you

Pat was a firepower upgrade while being able to play mindfreaks viper better than him while flexing to scan

They weren't gonna win toronto even if they magically fixed their roles or the meta was different, he had to leave at some point he was the definitive issue for them

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Luceus
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davai was the most consistent player

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dimmed
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Idk I feel like if someone got dropped for being "bad" they wouldn't I'll explain later because what is there to explain. I feel like you guys are just overreacting about Jonah

#6
rErebus_
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Mindfreak is still criminally underrated, all that’s needed is a bad start for a pacific team and he’s back in a tier 1 international level team by stage 2

#9
Castawaytwizz
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jonah goes to EG and takes okes flex spot surely

#11
Kyokotsu123
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my goat mindfreak can still compete you bum ass

#12
awaky
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never cook again

#14
Danny
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JonahP would fit in both Zellsis and Xeppaa's roles

If C9 management isn't sliding into his dm's right now they're idiots

#17
rErebus_
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The team has been built, insta dropping another person over a pre season tournament is brain dead from management pov and it’s disrespectful

#19
Castawaytwizz
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c9 have already dug themselves into the grave of being disrespectful, they can either be disrespectful and lose all year or be even more disrespectful and have a chance

#22
Danny
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insta dropping a person for an objectively better player after they just lost to cubert academy with a substitute is absolutely the correct and logical decision

#26
rErebus_
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Average c9 fan

#27
Danny
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British + Sen flair

#23
cirruss
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jonahp as an import to emea would be so goated like imagine him on tl...
i doubt he would ever go to europe but this would be so good

#24
catNmouse
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TL might trial them

#29
laifu
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wayne > mindfreak and jonah

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