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Harbor Buff leaks

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#1
TheFumbler

https://x.com/VALORANTLeaksEN/status/1983241025075253410

Predictions?
So his cascade (C Ability) and Ult are changing. Probably adding a new debuff (?)

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@cloudberry

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@clownberry
thoughts?

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10net
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Harbor will instantly drown everyone with his ult and win the round

#15
Daddy_Breach
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jeff the landshark from marvel rivals... i hate this fish

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GarbanzoEnjoyer
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isn't this what valohabercisi found

if the "splash grenade" is like a mini ult that he can throw for a delayed stun if an enemy is there I'll be disappointed cuz his whole identity is about obscuring positions not scouting them out

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delighted
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I think it's that

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TheFumbler
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Wait so you place/throw the "splash grenade" on the ground and if anyone walks in its radius it stuns them?
Tf? Thats a sentinel ability

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GarbanzoEnjoyer
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no I was thinking like a waylay orb, except it only "pops" if there's an enemy in it

but this is wild speculation and it's probably something new

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Or it could be delayed slow where anyone walking into it floods the floor with water and are slowed. Similar to sage slow but works on activation by enemies

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Galactc
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A grenade that just does like 1 or 2 harbor ult stuns sounds fun ngl

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GarbanzoEnjoyer
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maybe but I love cascade tbh

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Effluxi
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tbh i think they probably move it to E alt fire not completely remove it but idk

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Shadow_Monarch
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More Harbor played in VCT will be fun.

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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Splash grenade might be the replacement to cove... Could be useful, but what im feeling like it will be is probably a vision removal plus mayb a fire rate, cuz water, slows bullets or somethin

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TheFumbler
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No there is a high chance its ability C (Cascade) because it literally say abilC and abilX which could potentially mean change in ability C and ability X

#23
Pedri_isTheGoat
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Tf? Cove is best skill after harbor ult

#13
Goatfnc
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Actually harbor is originally from Bengal residing in Mumbai, So this Bengali will do Black Magic in valorant now

???

#17
cloudberry
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What do you MEAN, no Cascade???? What the heck Riot??

They're straight up deleting one of the best scaling abilities in the entire game

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TheFumbler
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Ya it was obvious they were reworking an ability. It is cascade. Even I wanted the cove to be reworked. But it is what it is

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cloudberry
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Reworking any of his abilities just destroys him

The entire way Harbor plays from map control (and just defaults in general) in team settings is with his Cascades. You remove that and he's just less of a team-based agent. Screw the ult... this change alone puts him in a spot where he's significantly worse in organized play and STILL bad in ranked. It's just an awful change all around

Like, come ON, Riot, a GRENADE?? REALLY?

#21
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Chill bro
Lets wait for the official patch notes. But i think his playstyle will completely change tho

#22
cloudberry
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I'm not waiting for the patch notes when it says "Grenade" RIGHT there, I'm crashing out NOW

#25
Slingz_val
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It's not gonna be a grenade for sure dw probs smth else which gives him initiator like ability which can help get sites but probs not a grenade tbh also ULT is gonna be like a Huge wave or smth ig

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cloudberry
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Ult is already a whirlpool, this description just sounds like a sidegrade at best

#30
catNmouse
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what do you think about harbor having global presence similar to the other controllers? him being limited really hurts him

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cloudberry
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He doesn't need global presence, he just needs similar presence as Omen. That's all he fundamentally needs to be relevant, everything else is QoL changes

The change I had drafted was that right clicking when you have the E equipped pulled up a little map around the size of KAY/O ult which you could set as the starting point of the wall (send the orb on the artifact there or something)

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im late as shit but surely they just move it to E alt fire

if they fully removed Cascade and haven't like, completely reworked either of his other smokes to also replace it then yeah they're dumb but it's so dumb i doubt it

#29
cloudberry
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This is the same Riot Games that'll release $60 melees that clip through your hand so I can 100% see it happening

#32
Effluxi
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that's not stupid it's just greed, the agent reworks probably aint even the same people because it actually matters tbh

#33
cloudberry
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You're right

I'm still hella anxious though

#19
KClaw
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Bro if they don't change up the E as well , it won't make sense cause that smoking ability is a straight up sova recon on your head

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catNmouse
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riot should give harbor a tablet like brim and clove to deploy his utility imo

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