Harbor Buff leaks

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https://x.com/VALORANTLeaksEN/status/1983241025075253410

Predictions?
So his cascade (C Ability) and Ult are changing. Probably adding a new debuff (?)

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@cloudberry

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10net
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Harbor will instantly drown everyone with his ult and win the round

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isn't this what valohabercisi found

if the "splash grenade" is like a mini ult that he can throw for a delayed stun if an enemy is there I'll be disappointed cuz his whole identity is about obscuring positions not scouting them out

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GarbanzoEnjoyer [#4]

isn't this what valohabercisi found

if the "splash grenade" is like a mini ult that he can throw for a delayed stun if an enemy is there I'll be disappointed cuz his whole identity is about obscuring positions not scouting them out

I think it's that

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More Harbor played in VCT will be fun.

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GarbanzoEnjoyer [#4]

isn't this what valohabercisi found

if the "splash grenade" is like a mini ult that he can throw for a delayed stun if an enemy is there I'll be disappointed cuz his whole identity is about obscuring positions not scouting them out

Wait so you place/throw the "splash grenade" on the ground and if anyone walks in its radius it stuns them?
Tf? Thats a sentinel ability

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TheFumbler [#7]

Wait so you place/throw the "splash grenade" on the ground and if anyone walks in its radius it stuns them?
Tf? Thats a sentinel ability

no I was thinking like a waylay orb, except it only "pops" if there's an enemy in it

but this is wild speculation and it's probably something new

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GarbanzoEnjoyer [#8]

no I was thinking like a waylay orb, except it only "pops" if there's an enemy in it

but this is wild speculation and it's probably something new

Or it could be delayed slow where anyone walking into it floods the floor with water and are slowed. Similar to sage slow but works on activation by enemies

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GarbanzoEnjoyer [#8]

no I was thinking like a waylay orb, except it only "pops" if there's an enemy in it

but this is wild speculation and it's probably something new

A grenade that just does like 1 or 2 harbor ult stuns sounds fun ngl

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Splash grenade might be the replacement to cove... Could be useful, but what im feeling like it will be is probably a vision removal plus mayb a fire rate, cuz water, slows bullets or somethin

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#11]

Splash grenade might be the replacement to cove... Could be useful, but what im feeling like it will be is probably a vision removal plus mayb a fire rate, cuz water, slows bullets or somethin

No there is a high chance its ability C (Cascade) because it literally say abilC and abilX which could potentially mean change in ability C and ability X

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Actually harbor is originally from Bengal residing in Mumbai, So this Bengali will do Black Magic in valorant now

???

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Galactc [#10]

A grenade that just does like 1 or 2 harbor ult stuns sounds fun ngl

maybe but I love cascade tbh

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10net [#3]

Harbor will instantly drown everyone with his ult and win the round

jeff the landshark from marvel rivals... i hate this fish

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TheFumbler [#2]

@cloudberry

@clownberry
thoughts?

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What do you MEAN, no Cascade???? What the heck Riot??

They're straight up deleting one of the best scaling abilities in the entire game

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cloudberry [#17]

What do you MEAN, no Cascade???? What the heck Riot??

They're straight up deleting one of the best scaling abilities in the entire game

Ya it was obvious they were reworking an ability. It is cascade. Even I wanted the cove to be reworked. But it is what it is

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Bro if they don't change up the E as well , it won't make sense cause that smoking ability is a straight up sova recon on your head

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TheFumbler [#18]

Ya it was obvious they were reworking an ability. It is cascade. Even I wanted the cove to be reworked. But it is what it is

Reworking any of his abilities just destroys him

The entire way Harbor plays from map control (and just defaults in general) in team settings is with his Cascades. You remove that and he's just less of a team-based agent. Screw the ult... this change alone puts him in a spot where he's significantly worse in organized play and STILL bad in ranked. It's just an awful change all around

Like, come ON, Riot, a GRENADE?? REALLY?

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cloudberry [#20]

Reworking any of his abilities just destroys him

The entire way Harbor plays from map control (and just defaults in general) in team settings is with his Cascades. You remove that and he's just less of a team-based agent. Screw the ult... this change alone puts him in a spot where he's significantly worse in organized play and STILL bad in ranked. It's just an awful change all around

Like, come ON, Riot, a GRENADE?? REALLY?

Chill bro
Lets wait for the official patch notes. But i think his playstyle will completely change tho

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TheFumbler [#21]

Chill bro
Lets wait for the official patch notes. But i think his playstyle will completely change tho

I'm not waiting for the patch notes when it says "Grenade" RIGHT there, I'm crashing out NOW

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#11]

Splash grenade might be the replacement to cove... Could be useful, but what im feeling like it will be is probably a vision removal plus mayb a fire rate, cuz water, slows bullets or somethin

Tf? Cove is best skill after harbor ult

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GarbanzoEnjoyer [#14]

maybe but I love cascade tbh

tbh i think they probably move it to E alt fire not completely remove it but idk

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cloudberry [#22]

I'm not waiting for the patch notes when it says "Grenade" RIGHT there, I'm crashing out NOW

It's not gonna be a grenade for sure dw probs smth else which gives him initiator like ability which can help get sites but probs not a grenade tbh also ULT is gonna be like a Huge wave or smth ig

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cloudberry [#17]

What do you MEAN, no Cascade???? What the heck Riot??

They're straight up deleting one of the best scaling abilities in the entire game

im late as shit but surely they just move it to E alt fire

if they fully removed Cascade and haven't like, completely reworked either of his other smokes to also replace it then yeah they're dumb but it's so dumb i doubt it

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riot should give harbor a tablet like brim and clove to deploy his utility imo

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Slingz_val [#25]

It's not gonna be a grenade for sure dw probs smth else which gives him initiator like ability which can help get sites but probs not a grenade tbh also ULT is gonna be like a Huge wave or smth ig

Ult is already a whirlpool, this description just sounds like a sidegrade at best

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Effluxi [#26]

im late as shit but surely they just move it to E alt fire

if they fully removed Cascade and haven't like, completely reworked either of his other smokes to also replace it then yeah they're dumb but it's so dumb i doubt it

This is the same Riot Games that'll release $60 melees that clip through your hand so I can 100% see it happening

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cloudberry [#28]

Ult is already a whirlpool, this description just sounds like a sidegrade at best

what do you think about harbor having global presence similar to the other controllers? him being limited really hurts him

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catNmouse [#30]

what do you think about harbor having global presence similar to the other controllers? him being limited really hurts him

He doesn't need global presence, he just needs similar presence as Omen. That's all he fundamentally needs to be relevant, everything else is QoL changes

The change I had drafted was that right clicking when you have the E equipped pulled up a little map around the size of KAY/O ult which you could set as the starting point of the wall (send the orb on the artifact there or something)

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cloudberry [#29]

This is the same Riot Games that'll release $60 melees that clip through your hand so I can 100% see it happening

that's not stupid it's just greed, the agent reworks probably aint even the same people because it actually matters tbh

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Effluxi [#32]

that's not stupid it's just greed, the agent reworks probably aint even the same people because it actually matters tbh

You're right

I'm still hella anxious though

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