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STATE OF INDIAN VALORANT

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FUSaitama

Before I start, I want to make something clear. I’m Indian, and I’ve been in the scene for over two years now. I’ve worked with small Premier teams, advised a few org owners, and tried in my own small way to make the ecosystem better. This isn’t me trying to bash anyone; this is me explaining why India struggles to produce players who can truly compete at the top level, and why orgs like GE often look toward players from Korea or the Philippines.

First, credit where it’s due. VLT making playoffs with two Indian players and Russ(Not relevant to IGC) is a huge moment. SkRossi deserves massive respect for continuing to grind through all the hate and criticism he receives. It takes serious mental strength to be the face of Indian Valorant for so long, carry all the expectations, and still keep showing up. I wish VLT the best of luck, and I genuinely hope they go as far as possible.

Now, let’s talk about the hard part. India hasn’t built a proper system to nurture and sustain talent. The issue has never been a lack of raw skill or potential. It’s that there’s no ecosystem that allows that potential to mature into something consistent and competitive. I’ve personally seen some incredible players vanish from the scene for reasons completely out of their control. Parents forcing them to quit because of studies. Players leaving because they can’t earn enough to support themselves. Teams falling apart every few weeks. No coaches, no structure, no long-term vision. It’s a cycle that keeps killing progress.

Even the ones who try to take the leap, who want to grind full-time, end up burning out. You can’t build synergy when your roster changes every two weeks. You can’t develop discipline when you don’t know if your team will exist next month. I’ve seen people give everything they have, only to realize that passion doesn’t pay rent.

Some orgs have genuinely tried to do it right. Ascend and Asterisk(Excluding main stream orgs here) come to mind. They care about their players, they try to stay patient, they try to build something real. But a few good examples can’t fix an entire scene filled with people who don’t think long-term. Many smaller orgs just chase clout, make poor decisions, or drop players after one bad result. When players see that happening around them, it kills motivation.

I’ll admit, I’ve also been inconsistent. I’ve started projects I couldn’t finish. I’ve seen teams collapse when four players suddenly left for exams or other commitments. It’s heartbreaking when the one guy who’s still grinding messages you at 3 AM asking what he should do. He’s trying, he’s putting in the time, but he can’t develop team chemistry because his roster changes every few weeks. You want to tell him to keep believing, but even you start losing faith when the system itself doesn’t believe in him.

That’s why I understand why GE signs non-Indian players. It’s not about disrespecting Indian talent. It’s about wanting stability and structure. Players from Korea or the Philippines come from systems that have already matured. They’ve had coaches, proper scrims, and competitive environments that push them to improve. In India, players are still fighting at home just to be allowed to play the game. The difference isn’t mechanical skill; it’s opportunity, discipline, and experience. At the same time, it’s also just about winning. At the end of the day, results matter. Other regions have simply produced better, more consistent players who have already proven themselves in higher-tier competition. You can’t ignore that reality. No org wants to gamble on potential when the level of play internationally is this high.

For things to really change, parents need to start accepting esports as a legitimate career path. Orgs and TOs need to think beyond short-term results and start building sustainable systems. The community needs to stop tearing down players after one bad map. And the players who are still here need to stay together longer, work through bad phases, and build real chemistry.

I’m writing this not to criticize but because I’ve seen the potential firsthand. I’ve seen what India could become if it had the right foundation. We could have produced players who make it to the biggest stages, but until we fix the ecosystem, we’ll keep losing them before they ever get the chance.

So respect to VLT for proving it can be done, and to SkRossi for carrying this scene on his back for years. They’re representing not just themselves but every Indian player who never got the chance to show what they could have been.

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messithegoat
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allat

#4
FUSaitama
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Yeah 🗣

#25
messithegoat
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https://imgur.com/a/gi5lgQD 😂😂😂😂😂😂

#3
JawXG
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allat

#5
LugiaVLR
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allat

#7
FUSaitama
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Was gonna write alot more, but my fingers are tired

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TORPID
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allat

#8
CNC
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allat

#9
Shadow_Monarch
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TLDR: Nobody gives a FUCK about INDIAN VALORANT.

#10
FUSaitama
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Alright 😁

#18
Shadow_Monarch
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I respect your post though :)

#24
FUSaitama
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Well thank you 😊

#11
tv0rusluke
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Bro wrote so much just for mfs to write 'allat' 🥀💔
I read it all bro dw

#15
FUSaitama
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Respect bro, thanks for taking the time ❤️

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Anguibok
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No worry i'm on it

#12
Dh3pan
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What are your probable solutions to fix this particular issue of the Indian eSports ecosystem.

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FUSaitama
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I think the only real way to fix it is by building structure and consistency from the ground up. We need more stable tier-2 events, proper scrims, and orgs that actually stick with players long enough for them to grow instead of dropping them after one bad result. Players also need to treat it like a career, not a hobby, they need show up, practice, review, stay disciplined. Parents and schools should start accepting esports as a genuine path so players don’t have to fight for permission just to compete. And most importantly, the community needs to support the few who are trying instead of tearing them down every time they fail. It’ll take time, but it’s the only way the scene matures.

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That's true and possible as well, talking about parents, my parents asked me whether OF is a profession or not. So yeah, it is going to be tough to actually fix the eSports scene, I have seen with few games like BGMI and FF.

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dimmed
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Sorry the average vlr user can't read more than 2 lines but yea the situation is sad since without a stability it's unlikely India will ever develop into a competitive region, whilst I wish GE didn't abandon the scene what you said about why they did, does make sense.

#32
FUSaitama
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I just hope, I could educate a single person on the situation 😁

#14
9wntr
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o7
maybe in 2027 a better indian org gets a slot

#16
tonyhart
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just say to parent that valorant esports gonna be like chess someday

#22
FUSaitama
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True, but even cricket isn’t considered a career in many parts of India. It really depends on how educated or aware the parents are. The more educated they are, the more they understand that there’s real opportunity in things like esports too.

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BerLINglazer
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holyessay

#20
Kk0bra1101
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This

This is something ppl just dont understand, it is easier to just blame individuals and orgs then Accept that this is a systemic issue

Also y'all can read a little, if u can't keep your attention for this little essay, well goodluck broski

#21
Kk0bra1101
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And yes, f**k saitama

#23
FUSaitama
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I had a Valo team called FEARR UNITED, so that's where the FU came from, but it was bad, so we started to call ourselves Fearr <player-name>, but I found it funny so I left it as FU Saitama

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Kk0bra1101
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Ngl that is a hilarious backstory for that, not that i hate Saitama

But still, fk Saitama 🗿

#26
eStos
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so it's basically Brazil but orgs are way worse

maybe if orgs from other regions decide to import Indian players (and they do well), you'd have a better ecosystem

#29
FUSaitama
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True, but there is scope for it to get big on its own, just need to start at the grassroots level.

#27
FUSaitama
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PS: I did you use AI to phrase this post, because my English is shi

#30
Benjut212
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ew

#31
FUSaitama
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Yeah I wanna be transparent, you can hate on me, but it doesn't change the facts 😁

#28
Benjut212
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many players from poor country also sacrificed their time of their youth to grind the game to make it big in pro scene especially when the tier 2 dont give you penny in sea scene do you think ph, id, th, etc dont get yelled at by their parents when their kids wanted to play game as their career from young age instead of getting stable career path.. its the same problem honestly, india just have worse talent pool atleast since the start till now (maybe theyll get better 2030 idk 😬) it is what it is big bro

#46
JesusisLord
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But you gotta ask yourself why does the most populated country in the world have a worse talent pool?

#47
Kk0bra1101
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A wide range of factors general culture, tech access, eSports culture, geographical distance

I can keep going on and on, population doesn't matter if you don't have the system's, will and culture required for it, im the end it's not a simple answer

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Benjut212
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i wanna be transparent the fact that india talent pool is ass, whatever the reason it is, you can hate on me but it still doesnt change the fact ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

#33
KssS
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I think you think too highly of the Philippines in Valorant. Yes in other esports like MLBB there are systems in place to ensure the best of the best can compete but in Valorant there is almost ZERO systems that exist to help the scene.

The only thing that the Philippines has, that India does not have, is good ping to scrim with tier 1 teams.

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FUSaitama
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Well, I would have to look into it, I can only speak to what I have experienced. But thank you for sharing your perspective 😁

#34
j1ynxx
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this is sick ty man for writing it all out! :3
i’m indian but born in canada and i really get what you mean about the culture and the outlook towards esports and how everyone won’t even give it an opportunity. most brown/south asian parents are hella “conservative” or they just don’t know and won’t give it a chance💔

#36
FUSaitama
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It's what we all face on a daily basis, but I know that stigma will break, let's be the change we want in this world

#35
Anchorxz
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someone simplify it

#38
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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Honestly serious respect to you... Both in the post and responses, because lets be real, some of the responses are "annoyingly inflammatory", but to treat them respectfully, takes effort

#52
FUSaitama
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Yeah I just try to be nice to everyone 😌

#39
Mqrio
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good luck or sorry that happened to you

#40
BluePunchXD
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man indian parents and the ecosystem here is so shi
i wish some britishers stayed here like america smthing
so we would have been top class in esports and even football

#42
SiwooHaechok
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TLDR
-Talent isn’t the issue — the ecosystem is.
-There’s no proper structure to nurture players: unstable teams, lack of coaches, poor org planning, and unsupportive families.
-Many talented players quit due to financial instability or academic pressure. Roster instability kills team chemistry and growth.
-A few orgs try to build something real, but most are short-sighted, chasing clout instead of developing players long-term.
-This is why orgs like GE sign foreign players — they offer experience, discipline, and stability from more mature esports systems.

For things to change:
-Parents must accept esports as a real career.
-Orgs need long-term vision.
-Community must stop tearing down players.
-Teams need to stick together and build chemistry.
Bottom line:- India has the potential, but without a solid ecosystem, players will keep falling through the cracks. VLT and SkRossi are exceptions proving it can be done.

#53
FUSaitama
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Thank you for spending your time doing this 😁

#43
6ft_radiant
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GE russ , GE lightningfast , GE techno , GE Venka , GE Skrossi

#44
gordonramsay
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whether or not VLT ascends, GE should still try signing indians for the sake of encouraging future generation

#45
lejargon
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allat

#54
FUSaitama
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Yeah 🗣

#48
Anguibok
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Now, let’s talk about the hard part. India hasn’t built a proper system to nurture and sustain talent.

Truth is...I don’think any region did that, the only different between your region and other region, is that our best young player have a chance to go in T1 while it’s impossible if you are indian, and it create a snowball effect (If nobody have T1 experience, nobody can really improve, and make people improve). What system that exist in other region do you want to see in India ?

Parents forcing them to quit because of studies.

I’m pretty sure you can find case like that in every country of the world, maybe even with a bigger ratio in other country (It's harder to convince them if nobody in India play in T1 :X)

Teams falling apart every few weeks. No coaches, no structure, no long-term vision. But a few good examples can’t fix an entire scene filled with people who don’t think long-term.

Again, it’s the same everywhere, Invite T3 team rarely having a coach even in France. And long term vision is something totaly out of the mind of almost every player that will always disband a promising team for horrible reason (a loose, some ego, etc), pasture is always greener outside and this is true evenoutside India

That’s why I understand why GE signs non-Indian players.

Conclusion, I don’t think they are anything specific to India in there. You just idealize other region, but I can assure you the far west you describe is existing absolutely everywhere. To me the problem if just the vicious circle of having no T1 player, experience of T1 and international event is how you make improve top player and a region, and GE is the reason why it doesnt happen.

It’s not about disrespecting Indian talent. It’s about wanting stability and structure.

By changing the T2 region you represent every year ? Thats ridiculous, GE is the most instable team, and their inferiority complex is just destroying India. And lets be honest, if GE hirean Indian player, they are no way this India player decide to leave since nobody want Indian player in T1. If you want stability, then hire Indian player, this is a own goal there.

They’ve had coaches, proper scrims, and competitive environments that push them to improve.

If they already had coach in the past, that mean they are already close from their potential, while Indian player didnt reach it, so at equal level, better hire the Indian. Do you think when GEN hire Karon this guys had coach for year ? No. If the player have the good firepower, then the problem is the recruitor andcoaching staff, not the player,andyou can go 5 Indian player

The difference isn’t mechanical skill; it’s opportunity, discipline, and experience.

Exact-fucking-ly, and who is the reason why Indian doesn't have any opportunity and experience ??? It’s GE.

At the end of the day, results matter.

You where denouncing short term vision, this is a short term vision and this is a good exemple. Riot allow GE to stay in the league for 4 year, and making result not matter that mush, they could have choose to build a long term team, being bad for the first 2 year with Indian player, but with experience and improvement they could have been a good team after 3 years. They choose short term result and get 3-8 instead sacrificing the future instead of 0-11. Worth I guess...

#51
FUSaitama
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I get what you’re saying, and honestly, a lot of it is true. Every region has instability, ego issues, and short-term thinking, that’s not unique to India. The difference, though, is scale and recovery. In other regions, even when T2 teams fall apart, there’s still a constant flow of new orgs, new tournaments, and more chances to rebuild. Here, once a team breaks, that’s usually the end of the road for those players. There’s no safety net, no lower circuit that sustains them.

About GE, I get your point that they’ve changed direction a lot, but to be fair, they’ve also done more than most orgs for the region. They’ve built an academy roster, run initiatives like the ROG Academy, and actively created opportunities for upcoming Indian players. The academy team they formed actually ended up disbanding because those players got better offers from other organizations where they could compete in VCL and try for Ascension. That shows GE isn’t ignoring local talent, they’re just operating in a system where there’s only so much room to grow.

And yeah, I agree that players who’ve never had coaching still have untapped potential, but potential doesn’t always translate fast enough when you’re up against regions where everyone already has that structure. It’s a gamble, and most orgs don’t want to take it when they have to compete immediately.

I don’t think GE is the reason India doesn’t have opportunity, they’re reacting to the system we already have. If anything, the real issue is that there’s no pipeline beneath them. We don’t have a proper path from T3 to T2 to T1 like other regions do. GE can’t fix that alone.

I do agree with you on the long-term point though, Riot giving GE four years in the league should’ve been a chance to invest deeper into Indian players and build something sustainable. Maybe that’s what we’ll see in the future, but right now, the region’s still in that early “survive first, build later” phase.

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Anguibok
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there’s still a constant flow of new orgs,

True in France, but thats very specific in France, checkevery where in the world, almost every T2 have a bunch of team where no org, so I let you imagine in T3... We can also see solid org getting destroy by orgless teams.

new tournaments,
Not really

and more chances to rebuild

Well, yes, thats wha happen when team disband a lot, but I'm notsure thats a good argument sadfully x)

I don’t think GE is the reason India doesn’t have opportunity, they’re reacting to the system we already have. If anything, the real issue is that there’s no pipeline beneath them. We don’t have a proper path from T3 to T2 to T1 like other regions do. GE can’t fix that alone.

I disagree, I think in my last post, I kinda prooved that was matter is time in T1 and GE refused to give it to Indan despite being the only org that could do that :/. Having an aca team is the bare minimum beside PRX everyone have it in APAC.TIndia have a pipline between T3 and T2, and they are only one structure that can create a pipline between T2 and T1 and they take the decision to not do it :/

“survive first, build later” phase.

The point of partner is to solve the problem of surviving, they where safe, and the paradox is because they didnt use this 4years to build,I wouldnt be surprise if they wouldn't be drop

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