SEN 24 vs SEN 25

Do you guys really think SEN would be better if they had their 24 roster right now? I see too many people blaming their new add-ons when their core hasn't been looking all that great either.

• Recently, Johnqt has been shooting but earlier this year his aim looked really unsteady, when so many SEN fans praised his fragging in 24. It's clear to me that Johnqt 24 > Johnqt 25

• Zellsis is as inconsistent as ever, I see a lot of sen fans insist that he's the glue and helps steady the teams mental but is it really worth the trade-off of having a worse player when better talent does exist? I can't say he's THE problem, but his inconsistency is a problem. Zellsis 24 vs 25???? 24 > 25?

• Zekken is still just a really great player so it's hard to ask for more out him but I do want to point Zekken hasn't really shown the same level dominance as he did Madrid last year. Zekken might have improved but at least relative to the competition his performance in 24 stands out more, Zekken 24 > 25

• Tenz vs Bang. I mean evidently Tenz did have higher fragging power than Bang so there is an argument that bang is failing to live up to the person he replaced. Tenz 24 > Bang 25

• N4RRATE vs Sacy. Similiar to Zellsis I can't judge stuff that happens outside the game but it's not crazy to say N4RRATE is a lot more a fragger than Sacy and his util usage has looked pretty solid so I want to say Sacy 24 < N4RRATE 25

I feel like you guys need to realise that SEN isn't worse because of the new players but because they haven't improved as much as other teams did between 24 and 25.

i think n4rrate is the main problem. he jsut doesnt have the vibes of sen

if 2025 SEN had TenZ instead of bang we would see a SEN that would be able to compete consistently the whole year

People forget 2024 sen had a huge slump in between Madrid and champs
They were a great roster overall but quite inconsistent, and with how the level has increased this year I doubt last years roster would have done much better

the issue with this year's sen, is that tenz and sacy were better players in the sense that they had more experience. bang and n4rrate seem to get tilted pretty easily. id say this year's sen roster definitely has a way higher ceiling, but it also has a way lower floor. far more inconsistent than 24 sen.

Maybe this is a gross oversimplification but when I watch them it often feels like they don’t make each other better. It’s like watching an orchestra where most of the instruments are being played decently but you still feel something is missing

I didn't mean to demean the newer players with my post.

I just pointed out some issues with the current roster. I agree that the other players are also not at their best. It is when a team truly starts synergizing well when each players start to show their best

Just look at prx now compared to last. Any of their players could be the best player in the server on a given day.

I still want sen to keep the same roster cuz it still has crazy potential

Sacy’s impact went way beyond just fragging bro, he helped the team mentally, strategically, and in so many ways even outside the server. the guy’s basically the father of brazilian valorant, he literally taught Aspas how to be a disciplined player and to bring way more than just aim. you’re oversimplifying things and downplaying his value as a player. like today against GX, there were clear moments where Narrate completely lost his head.