20th western valorant downfall thread

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Uncleben
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What are we doing wrong? Are we lacking talent?. Or understanding of the meta? This is embarrassing china was 2 years late and pacific has never historically dominated fps games. I think our talent might be too spread out across too many teams. Geng had all the best Korean players. Edg has all the best Chinese players (minus maybe spring). Loud (when they were in prime) had all the best Brazilian players. Old fnatic kinda had the same situation, all the best eu players at their roles together.

#2
Uncleben
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We have 100t and c9 holding OXY and cryo hostage. Jqt and zellsis is fucking around with talent the likes of bang, Zekken, and narrate. I’m worried that artzin will end up holding Verno and Aspas back. Keznit and Mazino are stuck in kru prison.

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Low key Americas need a super team. Like a leaf, Zekken, valyn, Verno, narrate typa NA super team (totally unrealistic Ik), and then Aspas, luxko, pancada, cauanzin, artzin (a bit questionable but he’s still a good igl). Latam super team of kingg, Mazino, shyyy, Keznit, + any latam initiator that’s not adverse, perhaps even com (despite being na)

#20
veeceetee
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Bring back Saadhak </3

#4
Congo1
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Dont drag EMEA into this. We havin 4 teams in playoffs my guy

#6
Uncleben
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Don’t you have 2? But the point still remains we were constantly winning trophies and we haven’t in a while. Certain teams like g2/th/fnc still made finals, but the 2nd 3rd place teams from our regions did shit.

#7
Congo1
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Emea winning Ewc + champs back to back. We back on top

#5
ynuser
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Our mindset is not of winners.

#8
BREQKERRRRRR
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Didn't ShitRX and Gen G lose yesterday?

#9
Agx192
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Drx players had dirt in their eyes the whole game and the geng players were playing on inverted controls so it was just unlucky

#10
BREQKERRRRRR
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What about Shit Lai Gaming?

#11
Uncleben
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They flukes the fuck out of their way here tbh
No rarga no win

#13
Agx192
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I don't claim china I am an apac enjoyer although xlg were unlucky to run into the china serial killers

#12
Danny
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Don’t worry guys, C9 will save the West!

#14
Uncleben
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Get rid of either Xeppaa or net, and Oxy and Vic are cracked enough to make this team insane. Having 2 sandbaggers is just fucked though. They shoulda kept Rossy as senti even if they didn’t want him to igl

#15
Danny
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they trialed having Rossy in a non-igl role and his ego couldn’t handle it

#17
Uncleben
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Whatever happens they need to they rid of either net or Xeppaa. I think Xeppaa is flexible and has great util + comma so I’d go with net, he’s way too inconsistent

#19
Danny
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I think the most necessary change is a coach tbh

#16
shrike-
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idk it just doesn’t seem like western teams have the drive to win. we have the talent but never do anything with it, while apac/china just continues building up their own talent but also winning trophies

maybe its mentality diff? no idea

#18
Uncleben
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Our talent is also spread out a lot. We have a lot of teams with 2 good players, 2 shutters + igl. Compare that to geng, or edg or prx for an example.

#21
Astar
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EMEA best talents are stolen by china and pacific btw its a scouting problem

#22
Ronyko23
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Imports are hella lucky tbh. The way talent is growing in cn.Not gonna bother with imports unless its an igl.

Just learn mandarin & get the bag if u r crazy good stuck on mid team.

Long term projects & orgs are rich asf

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