Not ragebait, but I feel like Invy is an upgraded version of patmen and if he quits TS and joined a capable team he can actually win a trophy
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how's invy's english btw? is it better than Patmen? I'm asking this cause we know t3xture is great player, but on an english comms team he's just not the same.
I mean Filipinos are pretty good at speaking english, and Invy is a pretty articulate person when i listen to his post match conference or interview
you can watch his interviews. out of all the current and past team secret members his English is the best among them.
I mean he's always one of the top rated players every stage, despite having mediocre team which is kinda crazy even if he played lesser games
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2379/vct-2025-pacific-stage-1
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2002/champions-tour-2024-pacific-stage-1
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2005/champions-tour-2024-pacific-stage-2
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1924/champions-tour-2024-pacific-kickoff
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1660/champions-tour-2023-pacific-last-chance-qualifier
Kickoff 2025 was his only bad stage which is crazy
PatMen is still amazing and was a key factor in our first trophy win, so for me Patty boi will always be special
Also damn Filipino talent is incredible, why aren't there more of them in the SEA teams in Pacific?
Team secret nepo management. +too many Koreans in the league atm. We need more than 12 teams per league imo. 14 would be better
don't worry I've seen it, Team Secret is going on a run and winning champs
i think invy and patmen fill different roles on their teams even if their agent pool is similar. patmen steps up if he needs to because his teammate are already so good. Whereas, invy has to carry TS every game and if he doesnt perform they can barely win if at all.
TLDR: Patmen is a support type player whereas invy is a carry type player
Yeah I agree with your statement, but I feel like Invy is more of a support type player too
yes invy is a support type player but patmen is even more so. Also id like to add that patmen's comms is better than invy's granted we can only hear them from their comms videos
If Invy is a support player, that is insane because he had top 3 K:D in APAC stage 1.
I heard PRX was trying to get him but the buyout was crazy. TS will just waste talents by making players look bad. I agree Invy is better though.
Secret will never let him go, otherwise i would think someone is actually smoking something
Ofc Invy is the best PH has to offer and also he should be a expensive player to get on a better team
to put it simply patmen is a lurk/support who flexes between the 2 invy's agent pool (i havent watched him much) mostly likely wants to play 2nd entry/main inti patmen is closer to chron invy is closer to "insert player who is too talented for there team in contract jail while being a solo carry on support"
Filipino players are actually the best budget talented players.
Able to comms in english
Has insane mechanics
Very humble and hyping
Cheaper contract than most pacific players
I think they are definition of the missing puzzle to complete a team
I think patmen success should allow some of them to get into indonesian or indian teams
i realized that despite having cheaper contracts, they still get paid better than an actual Filipino org, which proves to show why there are only a few Filipino talents compared to Indo/Thai
Kinda I guess, most Ph orgs are invested in MLBB, since they don't find valorant as a sustainable source of income unless you're a franchised org
List of players PRX tried to acquire but could not.
iZu
Primmie
HYUNMIN
invy
Now all of them are players with results and stats.
PRX has a good eye.
But every time they can't get the players they want.
Why the need to compare though both are great. One is on a team that grew stronger and one on a team that grew weaker and newly rebuilt.
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