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foresakeb is the goat of this game

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#1
gdamana

is it fair to make this statement now?
previously you couldve said you cant be the goat if you dont have a major event
we got that out of the way
consistency? been one of the best player of this game since 2021
diversity (most important one to me) hes goated done it on every role
i cant think of more rn help me out

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Nef0r0
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I feel like when you had a huge reputation of a choker you need at least several wins to redeem yourself

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KINGMANNY42
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nah 1 trophy is enough to break it

#4
Nef0r0
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Perhaps our viewes are different. In my opinion 1 event won does stop your choking reputation, however in order to be the goat you need to get more.

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gdamana
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so basically according to your logic
a guy who won one tournament win and then been average placing far from second place had a better carrer than someone who won a tournament plus been consistently close to one throughout the years ?

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Nef0r0
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redeem their own reputation, without comparing them to others. Do you seriously believe forsaken deserved only ONE S-tier event? Fuck no, he did improve from his ''what if he just had more luck in the grand finals in copenhagen or LA'', but it's not a full vindication

#13
gdamana
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you made a rule and im supposed to follow it lol
comparing them to others is the essence of what were talking about
you saying he deserved more than one trophy isn’t helping your case lol means he just got unlucky

#14
Nef0r0
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because our opinions differ, for me 1 event is enough to stop being considered choker but not enough to redeem all of the chokes

#6
Warlordwibz
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many players won 1 international trophy. Win a 2nd one to be considered a proper contention.

#7
mrbloombloom
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Forsaken and Zeek's status are incomparable let's be honest

#12
Muratg_7
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Honestly all of the 2021 Acend squad are

#8
themaniel
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no but id put him on par with aspas so around 4-5

#9
Xevoltz
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It's not unfair to make that statement now that he won a major. He is a great player.
I don't think being having a diverse agent pool matters to be the goat, you just have to win multiple majors and/or win consistently and there are other players that already did both (Chronicle has 3, Meteor has 2, etc). I also think that he has more occasion to show his diverse agent pool than other flex players considering how that PRX team works

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gdamana
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hows being good at one thing and being good at four isnt important to you
and thats just talking about roles
for agents its even wider
you see people who “specialize in a role” struggle when theyre put on another agent of that same role like zekken on waylay or aspas (many peoples goat) on yoru (not sure but he doesnt wanna play it )
and this guy is flexing roles flexing agents within than role
all to a high level and on pro play not on some low level shit
hows that not important

#10
Red2TPower
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why tf are you saying that optic forsaken is the goat after what he did back in the past

#21
Heisenburger09
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Word🔥

#16
reaper_rega08
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Nah, he ain't a goat yet. But definitely one of the best.

#17
ezekielisdepresso
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Thats a hot take but i would say no, but he is on the path on becoming one, the game is still progressing there is so much more to prove

#18
ynuser
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He has more impact that chronicle, common eye test

#19
teilwal
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to be the goat you gotta show up when it matters, so far he still doesnt have a overall positive kda in the finals, one more finals where he shows up puts him in those talks imo

#20
uwukitten
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this is literally the first time f0rsaken has had a great international tournament. this guy's PR needs to be studied

#22
kiwimagik
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for now i say boaster/chronicle, but if prx gets another major win he'll definitely be considered for it imo

#23
localkoolkid
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idk abt that one, maybe top 5 but has the same trophies as Shahzam brother

Like up there, sure, but to be THE GOAT you need to stand out among everyone, like a Chronicle or Aspas (even tho Aspas is NOT the goat but yk), he is just another incredible player with a trophy.

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