coaches and org reps (and funny how you mention org reps, those are oq teams, these are mixes, there will never be 512 orgs in OQ) for scuffed guys are working with them, they aren't there for ''fair play''. , and most guys are students ffs, they won't get together just to potentially play one game lmao. that's why it was a bad idea in the first place, you can't host OQ with no infrastructure in play what so ever

1 day investigation after an outcry isn't fast. fast would be vanguard immediately flagging the game and cancelling it. And it does affect tier 1, because tier 2-3 feeds into tier 1 now. The DMA possbility is still the biggest concern. Software will get flagged and banned, it's still on the PC. DMA goes external. The cheat is not on the pc the game is played on. because DMA still remains a possibility guys with DMA won't get flagged as bonk did. They will get to the next stage, and sure, they will likely just get swept in CQ, but they just remove the OQ guys. They do not care about vct cups, they just need to farm betting odds. Yet they exist in the same pathway as guys who want to win champs one day. That's the issue.

because the bets are obviously ain't coming for round 1/2 games. they are coming for round 3-4 and later on. And it's still online, still with apparently no webcameras as a neccesity and still just relying on vanguard to catch everything. even if they toggled only for the aurora game, and they did get flagged, it was software, not hardware. Hardware is not detected by vanguard. The DMCA cards matchfixers use are built in a way to counter vanguard. It will be completely clueless about it

most of the clean teams are stacks of 5 buds who want to try themselves out, you are just throwing away money and not even thinking about the fact ain't no way you will find 512 people to just monitor 512 teams playing an OQ

they got 5 game deep using fucking software, and it happened so fast cuz they beat aurora, one of the few big orgs who actually joined vct for 2027. Sure, vanguard flagged it and they banned them, boohoo, great win and showing that vanguard is a beast at slaying software. DMA cards, if they actually enter, and they will given that it took 5 games and an outrage to ban bonk, will bypass all vanguard protocols. no flags, no software detected, and vanguard will think it was an audio card and not a tool to radar hack.

As for them being known cheaters and still playing, that makes it only worse. Do you realize how shit it sounds? 5 KNOWN HACKERS got 5 games deep into the OQ before they were banned. That's already bad enough, now imagine if guys with better reputation and DMA cards come.

512 team OQ. that's 2560 players. that's 2560 people you need to hire. never happening.

well you probably should, it's a far bigger issue than stream sniping. stream sniping is easy to catch, and DMA guys will do even more damage than bonk with their software

DMA doesn't read the stream, it reads the game from the player. It is literally 1to1. It is in no way a twitch issue, it's a thing which reads RAM and receives info IMMEDIATELY

BONK was just patient zero guys, and judging by the announcement (https://x.com/vct_emea/status/2119412555735310388) it was just software. The real shit might start with hardware like DMA cards (akin to what cs matchfixers do). If they pull out those strats, with physical DMA cards, and spoofed firmware (which makes any kernel anti cheat clueless of a hack), open qualifier will be a huge mess and the entire format change will kill tier 2. Even more matchfixing, hunting for specific bets and throwing will be involved. IF bonk got so far with just software, hardware will be an almost impossible issue to resolve.
Oh, and most likely guys who are behind cs/dota matchfix are looking at OQ already :) CS TO's been trying to tackle them for years, and vct ain't nearly as ready. Tough for all the promising tier 2 teams, but it will only get worse

and how?) The bettors are registed on curacao or some other taxheaven, or shady betting syndicates. and police ain't starting an investigation over an online game :)

we really starting this shit about matchfix when eastern europe is pretty much the matchfixing hub in cs and dota?

if they were quite suspicious since like the start of 2025, they likely got so many matchfixing/betting links, 80k is not only the x30 of all other games, shit is just the tip of the iceberg of how much was actually bet

I mean actually quite possible :D I am pretty sure their bookies are likely some licensed on curacao companies so the legal aspect is weird. And 80k is likely just the tip of the iceberg, even more was bet on sketchy cryptocasinos, and cuz it's all sketchy and gray area likely no prosecution

buddy's mad his paycheck is getting revoked now that it's FF'd :)))) https://x.com/m4xikk/status/2119414869317550093

did you ACTUALLY believe in the fairness of open format? Like, that riot care for these 512 teams as much as the 8 partners?? I honestly respect the optimism

you ain't rerolling 5 games of OQ in one day bro.

I mean, 80k was bet on their game vs aurora, biggest loss for bonk is the bookies rerolling the results cuz the 240-400k paycheck is gone :((((((

oh so basically cuz the word.exe grew into such a meme it basically locked y'all out of the entire asia? I didn't think it was THAT deep ngl

there are levels to the radarhacking game, bonk are getting shit on if they meet cs matchfixers

https://x.com/m4xikk/status/2119414869317550093
totally not suspicious activities you guys :) also quite a small amount of money to bet given they had cheats, should have gone all in

from now on every player in OQ HAS to play with 4 webcams showing their face, screen, hands AND FEET, and if my favourites STILL LOSE, INVESTIGATE AGAIN

yeah kinda what happens in a 512 team qualifier and a DQ, by this logic you have to roll back like 5 games I believe.

doesn't matter, all 5 ain't playing a tournament in their lives ;D

I kinda doubt these cheaters are any good without cheats...

it will happen no matter what, an oq for 512 teams with a chance to make it to vct, no shit they will cheat.

tbf I never got into it, I just remember that a lot of the chinese scene was banned and that chinese matchfixing scene was presented as next level compared to eu matchfix

bonk fake demons, caught like 3 games in, true elite cheating scum would also fix games to farm bookie money

open qualifier only works with a shit ton of events, not just one massive open qualifier. It's kinda clear they want a more cs-like environment (and it is not hate, just shifted to more open, like cs), cs' open format works cuz of VRS as a system. When everything is just qualifier it will be fucked like this

gl, buy one DMA card to equal the playing field :D

optimistic of you to assume that it's just one region :DDDD Please tell me chinese OQ is happening, the guys who owned chinese dota will show some funny shit with open qualifiers

oh believe me, that's just patient zero, shit WILL get worse

then oq is fucked and you can scratch the entire OQ, wtf? If you host a tournament where everyone gets the opportunity, everyone gets the responsibility as well.

it has nothing to do with nationality, one group is guys who just stay in their basement and remain there, the other is going on lan and expecting to get away with it. Both are cheaters, but going on a LAN and trying cheats there requires some fucking insane audacity

I mean it's stupid to hate on the entire nationality, and maybe I overlook how much it impacted the indian scene. To me it was just a stupid moron who named his cheat word.exe and panicked like a bitch when caught.

wdym make that's a fucking must?

both are shit, but going on a LAN with fucking admins behind you and thinking you will get away with it requires such gigantic level of stupidity or audacity that it is even worse. most online cheaters just remain online cuz they know they are belted on LAN, none of them actually go on LANs and try to cheat there

motherfucker cheated on LAN
he named the cheat ''WORD.EXE''
If anything we didn't hate enough

you can, but it requires web cams directly behind your back showing your entire setup and the screen. Not 100% effective, but not as blatant

cuz when most of the pros around the oq are just agreeing these guys are cheating, they most likely are :D Sure, the story that ''these are 5 future champs winners who are held back by evil pros'' sounds like something from an anime, but in reality they are probably c*nts with 5 DMA cards

that's on TOs for not doing background checks, and well, in general, radars will be the biggest problem on oq

most of online cheaters will be radar hackers, not aim botters. Radar is way harder to track, and usually involves a DMA card afaik

open qualifier, let's ride.
Also mb rito bend the knee to pgl/esl/blast and allow them some tier 1 events so that they can help with hosting OQ?

thank fuck for the import rule, there is a limit to the shit they can construct

think about all the extra clicks, about all the engagement it will get... My gosh tenz please do it.

who gives 2 fucks about reputation, every 0 in that paycheck will make him forget about reputation and legacy lmao?

stop adding shit to the kettle, please, there's not much I can take

https://valorant-manager-simulator.pages.dev/ - Next time sign your favourite players here and don't make the entire world watch your fetished dream. I would rather stare at an exposed nuclear reactor for 4 hours than see ''t1.tenz'' coached by ''t1.sacy'' on my screen.
Best regards.

signed 3 contracts he will regret in one evening, fair fucking play

People are supposed to believe the 32 partners are the most elite orgs on the planet when the partner commits absolute management terrorism for the love of the game.

kept the worst players of their last roster, signed a streamer, signed an unmotivated guy, signed a guy who never coached (afaik) to lead this team. At this point I just salute this utter shithousery, fair play.