This is why I never had Aspas as the goat and called him a seasonal merchant before. He has never had a dominant performance in any international tournament like other top tier players have done before. His best tournament was all the way back in 2022 iceland and even then it wasnt truly dominant. I still am yet to believe there is a valo goat.
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Aspas will continue to do the bare minimum to be in these conversations but nothing more
10/10 ragebait
"Seasonal merchant" and he consistently puts up amazing performances ever since he was a rookie. He has two bad games and now the community decides he is shit.
I says “seasonal merchant” because his season performances are always a lot better than his international ones, and that’s not to say his international performances are always bad they just are never top tier.
to be fair aspas has literally never done well in the second lan of the event but always turns up for the third
by champs we'll have forgotten about this event when he starts doing good again
champs 24: 1.14 (11th, highest on his team)
shanghai: 238 CS (6th), 1.17 k/d (4th), 0.21 fkpr (3rd)
champs 23: 1.15 (8th, highest on his team)
tokyo: 1.11 (10th, highest on his team)
reykjavik 22: 1.18 (4th, highest on his team)
even in his "shit" tournaments, he's only ever had one outside of this one where we went negative (0.99)
tbh i consider that both consistent and top tier
not being mvp on international events = season merchant. also clearly a baiter that somehow still places on top of both regional and champs multiple years in a row with different teams that all collapse after losing him
He has only been top 5 once in rating in any lan btw, and that was Iceland 2022. No one is arguing an mvp performance everytime.
stats aren't that important, being consistently good AND getting top placements for his entire career is more impressive than even his one lan top 5 in stats. if he was always having shit performances sure but he isn't. if anything not getting that many top lan performances only works as argument for why other super consistent players are better like derke or chronicle
No one right now, there is not a single valo player imo that is a level above the rest throughout all of vct. At certain moments yes, example yay, Leo, demon1. But it never lasts long enough to cement them as the goat.
chronicle was never the best player on his team, he may have international success (which he contributed to, of course, but didnt do that all by himself) so i cant agree hes the greatest player to touch the game
bruh by ur logic aspas is not even close in the goat convertision.. he wasnt the best player in international event, 2022 champs was pancada.. cope more and zip up when u done, chronicle had very good stats in every international event unless aspas for now..
the only players who have really cemented themselves a tier above the rest with an international performance are yay, demon1 and leo so I don't think you're really making a strong point here because of how difficulty it is to peak that highly (all of those fell off too, except leo who's an unknown but his peak wasn't as high)
also there's a goat at any point of time, maybe not a definitive one but people are allowed to say who they think it is. tenz was the goat after iceland, yay was the goat after 2022
Sure but greatest of all time, I don’t think there is one at the moment. Their dominance was too short imo.
nah, kangkang was arguably not even the best on his team
alfajer and nats I can see the argument. cned does have a higher peak but I'm talking about consistency here
Nah Tokyo kangkang was out of this world, same with Shanghai Woot (before the finals atleast) and Copenhagen Shao. There's been WAY more impressive lan performances than Reykjavik/Champs 23' Aspas
Kk was definitely not the best player in his team last year whoever watched there matches can agree on that
he was the best in the world for the final no question
The thing about aspas is he was consistently great he never peaked or had a unbelievable performance he never had a bad game he had a bad maps
Although in this event he just destroyed himself
And that's a problem when everyone is already acting like he's cemented himself as the Goat when that is still far from the truth. He wasn't a statistical outlier nor is he the winningest player but because he was consistent he's the goat? Consistency is potent when partnered with dominance-which he didn't have so i never saw the reason for why the narrative of him being the undisputed goat exists. I'd get it if he had a 1 year run like Yay did and THEN he was consistent on top of that but no, it's only consistency. Not to mention that his performance clearly worsens when he plays in international events. He's one of the frontrunner for the goat debate fs but everyone just seems to bend history in favor of him sometimes
The undisputed GOAT is crazy; only Glazers will say that, but he is the GOAT for sure. He may not have the best numbers in international events, but in matches, you can see how much he means for his team to win or qualify. He has been the main carry for his mid and rookie teams for the last two years, and in his region, he always dominates. This is why the pro and most of the Valorant community glaze him for being the best.
Notice how we can all finally have a talk about the obvious bs narrative that's been floating around. No more South American Aspas fans bombarding you with down votes and insults more than Balkans do with each other? They're probably acting like they don't care rn 😂
seasonal merchant = aspas tends to play his best when a season of solo leveling is airing
By rating it was, by eye test you could argue not yeah, but I don’t think any of his performances on lan were ever as good as some of the seasons he had.
"by rating" lol you guys just see stats and start vomiting opinions without actually watching any games or knowing anything about what youre talking about is insane
The whole point is his lan performances are never dominant like his seasonal performances, which is why I don’t think he’s the goat. I’m not even sure what you’re arguing here.
because you take "dominance" as stats, like they are a definitive thing and not variable by playstyle and role, and not by actual gameplay. if you were actually serious about this you would know rating severely favour initiators and a more baiter playstyle. in any case, aspas is called the goat because of his consistency which is unmatched. top 3 itw every year since his T1 debut and always being a top player in both his role and overall
His regional performance are better than international cause his teams are totally dependent on him destroying every one and in region they get away from it cause team are not that good or he is just farming and on international stages all teams are good and they know just avoid or util dumb him and we will win
Thats the reason his numbers are different
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