is EWC a major?

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kskm

can we decide now? the prize pool is insane and im sure every org wants to win it... so can we decide now whether its a major to avoid conflict once NA wins it

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TEC is winning it mate

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Luceus

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what you on about BLG takes it all

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no.

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no

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kskm

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are u gonna keep the same energy if SEN win? cause i know rob moore needs that cash

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rob more is going to lift that EWC trophy and throw the masters one away

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jawn

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SEN is partnered with the EWC, they’re getting funding regardless

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yes

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I see it more like a blast premier event

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maybe if it was larger than champs's prize pool

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Ahnri

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Don't see why not.

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only if my favorite team win ofc

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wagonVAL

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possibly imo, its debatable each team is top 4 in their region (minus tec idk how they slipped in) , high prize pool. it all depends on the format cause the event is a 6 day 16 team tournament so they could easily have some bullshit cause of time constraints

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ArterieX

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yes and no
bcoz if an expected team wins then ppl will go yes it was
but if an underdog wins everyone would go like Mickey mouse tournament

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Yistyy

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This is mickey af brotha

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Red2TPower

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pacific ewc qualifier is mickey af and there are bo1s in ewc, so therefore ewc is also mickey af

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Liwus

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There aren't, read a rule book once in your life if you know how to

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deadpark

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ewc is mickey mouse

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worse than mickey mouse

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ewc is shit

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Similar weekend format as off season events, bo1 games, but with a dummy prizepool. So if rbhg this year has a 1 mil prizepool in november, thats suddenly a major? Doesnt make sense

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Siigma777

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no cause it isn't officially VCT, but should be a noteworthy win in the book

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Politics and controversy aside, I don't see why this tournament would be mickey mouse...
All regions went through qualifiers, best 4 teams that deserved to make it are there and the prize pool is better than masters.
I am kind of excited to watch and if the production is good there is good potential.

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Yistyy

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It's not a riot hosted event

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ATBSniper

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So what

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Yistyy

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So it's mickey

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Aayan

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no, certainly not this year at least with how its been crammed in (some teams aren't participating, some teams aren't playing with full rosters, some teams are just treating the games as trials)
the formats are different between regions, and the group stage of the main event will likely have bo1's

i think the blast premier comparison does make more sense

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100% yes EWC will help Valorant grow so much.

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himne

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no, majors are usually sponsored by the game developer so nope.

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TM06Nick

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no

#28

RzqoFoxie

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No
C-Tier tournament at best

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UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe

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EWC > masters Madrid

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Kloehuw

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For now, no. In the next few years, maybe.

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alpine007

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nah, its an A tier tournament but not an S tier one. Mind you its the highest among the A tier tournaments but its still not a proper S tier one at least not for this year, maybe next year if riot integrate it into their circuit

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cristiadu

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lol no

#33

Greed_

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A major tournament that doesn't bother streaming their matches?

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rooooo

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I mean EWC probably wants that to happen but it depends on whether Riot wants to sponsor the event. Based on the values of a lot of people in esports, thats pretty unlikely to happen

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KNGHT

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It’s just cold hard oil money the tournament vibe doesn’t have the quality of a major nor the prestige of it only thing it has going for it is money

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UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe

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You should go to your president and tell him to stop sucking up their "oil money"

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Galactc

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Shit is literally an off-season event enough said.

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hsuya_R

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If money is power than yes, its a major.

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Flos

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Champs > Masters2 > Masters1 > Lock-in > EWC > Stage2/Stage1/KickOff > Ascension

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why are people calling this an off-season event, it is literally taking place in the middle of the season

in terms of format i would consider it similar to kickoff/masters 1 because the format for apac/cn looks like shit but the event itself hosts 16 teams, all of which are tier 1 teams that can maybe contend for an riot sanctioned title

i don’t think ewc is mickey mouse, it should have a prestige similar to bangkok

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skensa

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bangkok had prestige because it’s a masters

ewc is a mickey mouse tournament held up by a huge prize pool and zero other redeeming factors

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shrike-

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okay so the only thing that gives a tournament prestige is who hosts it? because top tier 1 teams from all regions are attending ewc, 16 compared to bangkok’s 8

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skensa

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this tournament absolutely feels like an off season event with the only difference being a massive prize pool. the lack of production value and lead up makes the event feel so, for the lack of a better word - uneventful.

nrg players aren’t out here flaunting their sen city classic 2024 win, and i highly doubt people will say “they won ewc” in the same way people say “they won masters”

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well the difference between sen city classic and ewc is that sen city had 3 teams from one region whereas ewc has 16 teams across 4 regions playing on an international stage

and again this all falls towards who hosts the event, just because production isn’t incredible doesn’t mean the level of competition/quality of play is gonna go down just because it isn’t a riot sanctioned event

the quality/quantity of teams alone should be enough to classify this as an s-tier/tier one event, regardless of if it’s hosted by riot or someone else

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ItsMeDio

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Yes EWC is a major!
anyone said no is cope and seething

#44

Jayde

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I mean riot doesnt support it so its kind of a mid-season fill event. Also its hosted by the saudis which should be a straight nono

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SuperRoss

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no, boycott ewc!

#49

Drakath

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get a life man

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Effluxi

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get one yourself first

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taplos

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if you mean major is only vct official events like masters and champions, then no.. but is it as big as masters and champions? yes.

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Congo1

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The main event last 5 days guys... Its micky mouse due to format and scheduling alone

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Zerphyr1

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def not a major and not every orgs wants in as shown by many teams not participating in the play ins

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themaniel

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It just doesn’t feel like I’m watching an S tier tournament

#54

KaedeTsuneta

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Yes, just below Champions

#55

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Can you compare it to champs? surely
Does winning champs mean more? Yea (IG title, charm, mark on your bundle)
Is EWC a higher achievement than winning a Masters? I'd say so 100%
Do I hate to admit they cooked with the tournament? wholeheartedly.

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Venom20441

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They didn’t though the format is awful, the qualifying format is awful. Half the teams aren’t trying or fielding weak rosters. The only reason this is even a debate is because it was crammed in July and not November and the money. That and a lot of people are calling it Islamophobic when you disagree which is just stupid

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nusifer

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overinflated prize pool for a tournament with a bad format it's not even close to the FIRST masters of the year for me

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K4ziuHa

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no, it doesnt affect the season in any way, the format is cooked too, the prize pool is just inflated petrol money. It is a big event though, maybe between bangkok(michelin mouse tourney) and toronto(my beloved)