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#1
USCK

Why are people complaining about getting to watch the best teams in the world in a prestigious lan tournament like so what if its mickey mouse its still going to be entertaining as shit.

Its like people don’t wamt there to be off season tournaments and wait half a year after every vct season before they get to watch their favourite team again

#2
BrodieATK
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I think you're missing the point bud

#3
Big_Potato
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They arent complaining because its "mickey mouse". Theyre complaining because they know whats happening in Saudi

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USCK
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Riot games is owned by Tencent which gets funded by the Chinese government and has chinese government members in leadership positions so with that logic we shouldn’t play any Riot game I guess

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LouBag
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kids enjoy being white knights

#8
Big_Potato
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White knight because I said summin about whats ACTUALLY happening lmao

#14
LouBag
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wut?

I just said kids are more likely to be idealists.

when you get older you realize everyone is a piece of shit.

#16
Big_Potato
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Agreed tho, most of the major companies are likely affiliated with the govt of their countries. We cant do anything about it though plus its too political to talk about it

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SleepyBear
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saudi this saudi that like sybau, somone get that 600 billion from saudi money nobody said anything lol

I guess if it benefits you, the West doesn't say anything

#21
Big_Potato
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Thats how politics works tho. Selective outrage is what makes people blind. Some people see through it and call the govt out for it, while others dont really care

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shesh_
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i feel like this is being disingenuous

tencent IS state sponsored media, yes, but that doesn't necessarily mean that riot games is, just because they are a subsidiary of tencent, and regardless, the chinese government isn't using valorant as a way to cover up their human rights abuses on the world stage in the same way MBS and the Saudi Government is

this is a bad faith argument and a blatant example of whataboutism

#17
Itsover
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Nrg are sponsored by USA air force, Mr white knight

#23
shesh_
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more whataboutism

i think nrg being sponsored by the *army national guard is bad, i have no idea what makes you think i'd make a moral exception for this just because I root for their esports teams

2 bad things can co-exist, realistically, way more than 2 bad things co-exist, i'm still watching the ewc games, but I also think it's always better to be aware of the greater context behind controversy, and when someone is just saying stupid shit for the sake of saying stupid shit, i'm going to call it out

#32
Sikul
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Why don't you boycott nrg then?

#34
shesh_
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i'm still watching the ewc games

if i'm not "boycotting" ewc why the fuck would i boycott nrg, i'm not vain enough to pretend that my presence/lack thereof will make a tangible difference, i'm just speaking my mind

#24
USCK
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The chinese government has something called a golden share in Tencent which means they are directly involved in Tencent’s business decisions which literally means they could pressure riot into meeting whatever demands they have if they really wanted to so it does directly link riot with the chinese government

And also the country you live in is also doing the exact same as Saudi as all the major athletic events will be held in America in the upcoming years

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thank you for including the part at the start about a golden share, i didn't know that, it's very interesting to learn, and i agree that it could manifest in the manner that you imply in your first reply

the second part is just more whataboutism, i agree that the us does bad things, and in my personal life i do my best to spread awareness in my social circle to those who actually care, despite that, i'm not doing anything to stop the government's actions, and i'm not even boycotting the ewc, i just believe that it's better to always be aware of the context behind controversy, and that is the sentiment that i choose to reflect

#31
USCK
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Its fine to have a opinion but when people are trying to boycott a tournament because of a situation like this they are being kind of hypocritical

I fully respect your opinion but I just think going down that whole rabbit hole is very complicated so I am supporting the existence of a tournament like this as it benefits the pro scene and I think there should be even more off season tournaments for both t1 and t2

#41
XYLITOL_WU
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Who fking told you that Tencent has a Chinese government executive

#10
1One1
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That's hypocrite, did they even sympathize towards similar stuff outside valorant related when the US actually takes the blame? of course they don't

#12
Big_Potato
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I understand what youre saying dawg, im pointing out why people are against ewc. #5 and #6 clearly missed the point 🤦‍♂️

#4
teilwal
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bro turn off the names it feels like im watching a random content creator tourney in 2021

#7
shesh_
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i understand people having moral qualms about the ewc, but this is just blatantly wrong

#22
teilwal
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bro, no aura qualifier, no replays, t4 casters coming outta retirement

#25
shesh_
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i like the casters :(

#29
Tempest24
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They are buns

#30
shesh_
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already heads and shoulders above the likes of mimi and rivington

if they cut out all the moaning and throw in a little bit more analysis i think they'd go up to vansilli/babybay tier

#33
Tempest24
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nah no mf is allowed to speak ill of king babybay

#9
lilwho
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More tournament = more fun

#13
yuriito
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nvm i thought i was online

#15
firo
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it's not prestigious though lol, let people complain, let people watch, let people not watch.

#19
1One1
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And those who complain influence other with forceful tones to not watch

#35
firo
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in the end it's a person's own decision to watch or not watch.

#20
AltonBu02
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It doesn't mean anything, but I still enjoy watching the games

#26
TM06Nick
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prestigious and mickey mouse in the same sentence. pick one buddy

#27
USCK
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Its prestigious in the sense that it is a S tier tournament with top tier competition I mean BBL’s owner was literally saying this himself

#36
firo
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it is an s tier tournament in name just because of the participants and the prize money but 0 prestige if you win, compared to a masters/champions winner.

#37
TM06Nick
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no ones gonna look back at the history of NRG and say "oh they won SOOP and EWC"
They're gonna say they lost to BLG at Champs

#38
NRGSUPERFAN
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fuck you

#42
TM06Nick
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the truth often hurts

#39
MaiL09
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I watch the EWC and I fully support them, I dont care about these woke drama

#40
100thievesasunasfan1
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L ragebait

#43
StalwartTiger_35
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You made an account just to reply so clearly the rage bait worked

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