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AGENTS Who Need Nerfs / Buffs

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#1
ArterieX

Nerfs
1) tejo
2)Yoru
Buffs
1)SAGE
2 ) Harbor
3) chamber somehow buff without breaking him
4)SKYE bring back triple flash (JK) buff her somehow tho

#2
mustafais
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Skye: Heal through walls and bigger radius, longer flash duration

#3
ArterieX
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that would do it

#44
MrBlooBloom
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It wouldn't. That's a ranked fix, not a pro play fix

#4
Effluxi
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yoru is fine after ult nerf imo

tejo needs single missile per charge with two charges

Sage needs slow signature, but you could maybe do a tied charge with heal like Reyna's.

Harbor needs a second cove and alt fire on high tide that lets you displace his wall start point.

Chamber give his tp the Vyse QoL where if the TP cooldown runs out it doesn't go back on cooldown after picking it up. And maybe a trip range buff.

Skye... idfk, make dog signature with recharge.

#6
ArterieX
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yoru is still pretty strong tho

#7
Effluxi
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Him being pretty strong is fine, he opens up comps a lot but also requires more skill to play. The current meta is so open because of Yoru, not Tejo. We don't want to overhit him.

#8
Northbriton
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Agreed yoru doesn't either dominate ranked. Imo duellists are actually pretty balanced atm, i expect to see more neon now on sunset

#34
Effluxi
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I agree. Also think Neon is being underrated vs Yoru on Fracture though.

Vyse + Breach + Tejo + Brim + Neon hasn't been tested enough imo.

#9
ArterieX
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yeah but making phoenix a bit better would be good IMO

#17
Effluxi
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I'd like to wait and see how teams use current Pheonix first, KC using him on Haven and PRX on Pearl in particular have had decent showings with the little they have played it. My guess is just some number tweaks.

#21
ArterieX
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yeah so healing buff ?

#29
Effluxi
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Definitely not healing. Healing being so strong in ranked but pretty dreadful in pro is the reason he's so hard to balance in the first place.

Imo you just lean into the wall even more, so his can be strong ult with flashes and smoking role compression like Yoru is for entry. Maybe a longer duration or range. If you could find a way to buff them so Pheonix + Harbor is a comp worth considering that'd be awesome.

#10
catNmouse
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increase tejo ult points from 8 to 9

#11
ArterieX
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I made a thread for TEJO nerf here is my nerf for him
Reduce the useable distance , change the salvos from 2 to 1 , give him a buyable salvo for 300 $ like cloves or omens smke and make it non rechargeable
Nerf the reveal distance of tejo drone and reduce its distance to 15m or something and upcharge it to 400$
make the ult narrower

#19
Northbriton
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bro his util would cost 1k if u did that. The sole issue with tejo is the post plant spam- u increase the cooldown to 50 seconds and its fine. Tejo drone is fine, and the ult is also fine. Its the salvos which are the issue in postplant apart from that hes fine

#24
ArterieX
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how is tejo drone fine ? it goes farther than sova drone , kayo knife's them , cypher reveals them , is invisible and still 300 while sova has 400
ULT IS FINE ????

#28
Northbriton
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i mean its not exactly dificult to destroy tejo drone. 15m means u wouldnt be able to reach a site on haven from a lobby like thats just way to short. And ult is fine, its not great without team coordination and other util. I don't get what the issue around ult is, changing its width doesnt make a difference to it

#37
Effluxi
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Stealth Drone is strong absolutely but the only agent it's directly forcing out of the meta is Skye who already needs buffs, i think her getting dog on recharge as I suggested really helps define the drones having different strengths per agent.

#31
Germy
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also please make harbor walls not slow teammates

#42
Effluxi
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They don't seem to want to make one-sided slows altogether, so I'd suggest they change the effect entirely instead in that case. My suggestion would be a peripheral blocking water effect so his walls can discourage you from pushing them by enabling ratting around them similarly to how Brim smokes do.

#5
Northbriton
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Honestly for me i think chamber is fine, he has his little spot. Skye maybe 1 flash which recharges or 2 but u can get one back with 2 kills like pheonix. I dont mind sage either, she isn't really gonna be relative in VCT but thats okay shes pretty stable play amongst casuals. Harbour is just like lost, that agent might need a redesign lol

#52
midniii
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2 kill ability refresh is pretty exclusive to duelists

#12
Supernova0791
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I think viper also needs the slightest buff. Nothing huge just increase the uptime of her smokes. That’s all I am asking for ;-; (ex viper main so I admit to slight bias)

#14
ArterieX
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yeah viper got hard nerfed i think her orb should be pickable thats all maybe increase her pit time

#32
Supernova0791
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her pit is fine, I still play her on Icebox (only agent I’ve played on Icebox this act) and her pit is still amazing to rat in and out of, and honestly not being able to pick the orb up is not the worst, but you are never able to have both the orb and wall up together for enough time to make a play, heck you can barely have the wall up long enough to make a play. Her up time might be shorter than cloves which feels really short.

#56
penpen
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how long does it last when you have both up anyway?

#57
Supernova0791
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idk, i think its around 6 seconds? maybe seven? either way its really short

#23
Effluxi
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yeah you can definitely give her a tiny bit back now that other stuff is being played

#13
Cheasle2
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Skye's flashes need to be stronger. Since they don't regen they aren't as good for info, so they mayswell be good for flashing.

#16
ArterieX
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yeah so we should bring back 3 flashes no ?

#33
Germy
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idk abt 3 but maybe just longer flash time

#54
Cheasle2
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no, because that doesn't fit in current day Valorant

#15
Yistyy
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NERF ISO

Stupid fuxking agent

#18
ArterieX
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ISO isnt even strong anymore

#22
Yistyy
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As an awping chamber main, its super annoying to go up against. And for some reason riot was on drugs and gave him suppress in the last patch too.

#26
ArterieX
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But they increased cost and reduced the price of his vulnerable ability

#38
Yistyy
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You say that as if that makes if balanced. Why tf is a duelist getting suppress.

#40
ArterieX
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that ability was useless first now atleast u can do something with it

#41
Yistyy
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Useless is wild. That was the best piece of combo utility in the game next to fade suck and breach stun.

#46
ArterieX
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and how are u gnna know enemy's exact position

#48
Yistyy
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Trap plays, spotting, info utility, etc.

#49
ArterieX
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i mean u are just pissed bcoz he keeps stealing ur ult and head hunter in ranked XD

#27
Supernova0791
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as an op crutch, he is hella annoying but there are workarounds such as a) aim for another teammate, b) get good with a sheriff for his ult

#35
sawrice
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get good is a start though

#51
Supernova0791
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im trying to figure out if thats agreement or insult

#60
sawrice
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figure it out

#39
fatdaddy
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i feel this... nothing like getting swung by an Iso who completely negates your weapon and also takes your escape path away

#20
orangejuice
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nerf neon

#25
ArterieX
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ara plays good neon tho and sunset is coming back so GX might have a chance

#30
orangejuice
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buff neon

#36
W1ngFly
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Bring back Omen one-ways

#43
ArterieX
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thats a good one TBF but since sunset is back he would become too strong IMO

#45
W1ngFly
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That's exactly what I want

#47
ArterieX
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ohhh

#53
ArterieX
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A buff for sage can be her wall being 100% health the second its placed

#55
ortuh
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Skye needs her flash to regenerate again, even if that’s giving her a total of one flash with it recharging every 30. So punishing using util on that agent as you get so little out of it, and it’s not like the flash or dog are even that strong in this meta anyways

#58
MrHyphon
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Bring back old Skye but without the flash cooldown

#59
ArterieX
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yeah :(

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