Agreed on both accounts, it's even sadder because they do both have a ton of potential

i laughed so hard at this

I lowkey kind of hope c9 drops all of them. This is coming from a diehard OXY fan. I think that OXY is underperforming on C9 because he has an igl and coach who aren't using him right and not the best backup. I think that both him and xeppaa should be removed for their own sakes because a change in environment and larger team difference could help them both thrive. I think Zellsis is kind of similar though he could do with more experience on igl and a little aim training. Penny and V1c... I don't want to be mean but I've looked at my own gameplay in premier on the same roles and felt like sometimes I could genuinely do better (which is likely entirely incorrect but I can at least spot a large number of mistakes easily). This is of course not entirely their fault, a lot of what I saw on Haven also boils down to gameplan which then boils down to Immi.

In short I feel like they could all do better on different teams and better igls and coaches.

for once a post actually aged like FINE ahh wine (also we are unfortunately not prying demon1 away from ENVY anytime soon)

holy shit i never thought i would see someone who glazed a player/team more than i do oxy and prx

oxy went 27/17 that last map, +10, equal on fk/fd; oxy was NOT the problem here

I'm a diehard oxy fan but i agree, people hate on him a lot but I mean look at his support; for comparison look at Derke when he left the support he had with the FNC team (might not be a fair comparison but it was the first thing i thought of). I feel like you give him good support he can make it to top ten duelists globally.

edit: forgot to mention, refresh on location and energy can revitalize a player

lmfao

i am uninformed, tf is that

the disappointment when you don't see your name before remembering "wait why tf was i expecting to be on there, we have probably never interacted at all"

Almost right result of that game but wrong place lmao

i miss something jett, the chaos with the shorty and stuff... man i miss that

they aren't believing you. ever.

im going to hell for laughing

I know this is incredibly unlikely and maybe not the best idea, but when OXY comes back kick penny and replace him with Demon1...

bump, support for the goat

map 1 he absolutely was whiffing and taking bad fights (though it also looked like that was the gameplan so not 100% his fault) but he showed up map 2

there wasnt a skirmish, nrg was higher seed

Right score wrong team o7

genuine question because I missed it, what team is he on or does he have a team yet?

you replied first lol

wrong gender XD

dont know what that is but you said "Call me cringe." so I will follow instructions

you are cringe

idk if anyone uses life360 but its on there... like to send to people... i hate this

prayge

looking at your name... im so sorry sir

idk, im no expert on what goes on inside the heads of esports people, i mean someone looked at the c9 roster and thought it was a good idea so...

you lucky mf

i think he's having health problems or smthn, don't quote me on that though i'm not 100% sure

they dont

"now this" while he is top frag?

I mean practically a guaranteed and likely well paying job for like five years in esports... I would do it but I am also that age so...

edit: also no matter if its his fault or not, he still does deserve a better team, whether its on C9 or not

...okay maybe the people saying it's his fault are right

2027 I believe ;-;

As I just said, he was like 18/19 when he did that, who the hell thinks far ahead at that age.

Agreed, in the C9 podcast he said he likes it there because it feels like family but no way anyone enjoys losing that much. (also to all the people saying that he did this to himself, he was like what 18/19? when he signed the contract. who makes smart decisions at that age)

The second he leaves C9 I swear that's half the fanbase gone.

see I am not a c9 fan, but I am an OXY simp so I root for C9 bc of that, and yes I will admit C9 is buns. What was that throw today and how the heck you let your teammate drop 30 for a loss (yesterday).

I mean potential can be seen in every team, it's just a matter of if it's realized or no.

Yeah agreed, Penny really good player and with the double duelist meta it's really good. Plus he and OXY were on a team before so there's some chemistry there. But Zellsis for me was a big WTF.

edit: he does have potential but rn I'm not seeing it, granted its just an off season tourney and a new roster so I'm reserving the majority of my judgement for now

No one gonna listen XD, not with these last two games

he was like 18 or 19 when he signed that, how many people actually make good decisions at that age, plus its a job that pays so...

Penny does not belong on that list... xeppaa can have his games... but yeah

Second comment, I could cope in my love for OXY and say that we have no practice with this version so that's why we bombed. HOWEVER, I have a functioning brain and I know that this statement is false.

Real

I'm not a C9 fan but I am an OXY fan. I thought Penny was an upgrade but I cried at the Zellsis pick.

So I'm not a C9 fan but I am an OXY stan. This team fucking sucks I hope they drop OXY so that way he can be free. I know in the podcast he likes it there but there's no way anyone enjoys losing over and over again like this.

agreed, I just didn't feel like saying anything. This guy just dropped 30 and someone wants to put him on flex?

and the one series pissed me off, how you gonna let your teammate go 30-19 and LOSE

I get a lot of compliments about being as good I am at Valorant while playing on a four year old laptop and shitty wifi XD