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help a pc building noob

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nuthoneycheerios

any resources u could point me to? pretty much a noob, learned what a ssd is today and what the difference between cpu and gpu is lol.

anyways I'm looking to build a budget gaming pc $700-1200. I'm a college student not making much money but can def afford that price range.

mainly built for games like val, cs2, minecraft, and generaly light games. no need for super beefy graphics, but I do play subnautica/belowzero and hopefully its sequel once it's released in a few years :D

  • as long as it can run val/cs2 at 200+ fps and 144+ hz (which I think is reasonable for a budget pc? correct me if I'm wrong).

thank you so much :>

pretty serious about building it, I've saved up! I do want to stream in the future but I know that will neccesitate pricier stuff so... anyways maybe I can update u guys on progress!

spam tips or ur knowledge to help me out TwT, i'll take anything!

watching some youtube videos on basics atm.

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GambleNats
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All I know is that those are cpu heavy games so prio cpu > gpu but for the rest gl

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nuthoneycheerios
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that's because fps games need better fps/hz and not insane resolution? how much of an affect does the monitor have? I know displays have their rated hz uhhhh hdmi vs displayport.

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m4
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two words. trade. war.

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nuthoneycheerios
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hey legend. u mean not a good time to build bc of price ?

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m4
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I would personally buy from box stores. I'm worried that you're going to very quickly run into expensive prices. Plus you're going to want a high end graphics card and bitcoin is above 90k. So yeah everything was expensive before the tariffs and box stores is probably the last haven.

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nuthoneycheerios
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wdym by box stores, like a retailer?

#20
m4
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Yeah like a Best Buy or any store that has inventory they would want to move. Online retailers might not have inventory and need to order and that's where you're going to get hit.

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nuthoneycheerios
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ohhhh like look for sales n such. im okay with older gen parts

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taejuny
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Use pcpartpicker.com and go to microcenter if theres one nearby you to buy parts. For psu reference psu cultist tier list

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nuthoneycheerios
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pcpartpicker.com vs microcenter u mean based on price and availability? when should I go to each

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temi
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Use pc part picker to build a rough sketch online…
If u are close to a micro center u can go there and get the parts (usually the cheapest prices as a tonne of stuff can get bundled together etc)

U can also look at pc building videos with that price range and u should be able to get something done comfortably

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PC part picker is good for seeing all the parts you want to buy/compare with filters + it gives you the lowest price of the part you can get online. It's nice to have a list, even if you're buying it all from MC. If there's a microcenter nearby, though, you can see if there's a cheaper person irl + it's nice just to be able to see it like PC cases so you can see how it looks vs just seeing pictures online. Also, microcenter offers good motherboard + CPU + RAM combos that are cheaper than buying parts individually online. When I build PCs, I buy from a mix of online(like Newegg) and Microcenter, depending on price. If you're buying from Amazon/Newegg, make sure you're buying from the official seller and not a third party.

PSU rating(bronze, gold, plat) doesnt always mean the best thats why you should use psu cultist just buy one thats in their A tier and has the amount of watts recommended by pcpartpicker.

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nuthoneycheerios
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tysm bro. so pcpartpicker is a tool to help draft a pc so that I can source the parts from amazon/newegg/microcetner etc.

psu isn't that important as long as its A tier

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mongu
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use ztt psu list. It’s more updated.

#26
taejuny
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true cross reference that with the excel sheet of psu cultist (should be more recent)

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DrudaL
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Just watch more youtube tutorial until you confident, atleast thats what I do on my first build

And make sure every part is fit, I make a mistake buying wrong case that my big ass gpu didnt fit

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nuthoneycheerios
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LOL i see... what size u got ? medium tower???

#10
kuruk
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amd > intel
nvidia > amd

#12
nuthoneycheerios
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i assume this is because I want to play fps games, and do not need to run many many apps at once?

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Yistyy
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im ngl this actually doesn't really matter that much. it just comes down to personal preference.

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taint
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its more based on what you're using the computer for. if its for gaming then yeah this applies

#24
kuruk
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idk its just the rule ive always followed

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taint
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use chat gpt/reddit/youtube. i used that to plan my specs for the pc im gonna upgrade to when i start playing again

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nuthoneycheerios
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gotcha ty!! i want to make sure any upgrades I make are mostly compatible with the current parts

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Maniacwolf
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Remember to download your ram when you’re done

#17
mongu
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Alright I build pc’s as a side hustle so here’s a few tips/questions:

  1. those are cpu intensive games so prioritize ur cpu ( that doesn’t mean heavily cheap out on gpu)
  2. Do you need a monitor because from the wording of how u said it I think you needa do more research.
  3. Do you mind if I send u a parts list? (Idk if vlr allows me to send links but if yes send blue app)
  4. I’d buy all new parts if you’re a beginner because you may run into some problems with used parts if you don’t know what ur doing.
  5. Most computers around $500 could run valorant and cs2 easily above 200 fps.
  6. We are currently in a gpu crisis rn.
  7. What currency? (I’m assuming USD)

Good luck!

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  1. yes!
  2. yes I need a monitor, my dad has one but it's an LG brand capped at 80 hz. I did hit diamond with it though so.
  3. I don't mind at all, and I really appreciate that ToT. blue app: nuthoneycheerios
  4. I heard that buying used parts on ebay gets you bargains but now that you say that I have to agree. Don't want to take risks. also think older gen parts will be best, question is how old???
  5. COOL. how about refresh rate? I def think I can up my game with higher hz
  6. sigh
  7. USD !

ty :33

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taint
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can i tell you the parts i plan on getting and you tell me if it's good?

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wearesocookedchat
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send it, i build pcs as a side hustle aswell. also include your budget and your purpose for getting a pc

#18
Yistyy
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it's simple. just research what all the different pieces of hardware does. basic list: cpu, gpu, motherboard, ssd, power supply, and ram.

learning how to build it is also not as crazy as it seems, there are plenty of guides on youtube that are really easy to follow even if you're configuration will be different.

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nuthoneycheerios
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I'll watch linus for the actual building process. unless u know something else I should use?

ofc,, so far just doing research on each part, understanding what they do and how the interact with eachother, and how the differ by specification

#25
7oblivion
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https://www.ibuypower.com/store/amd-core-ezb-series
lets stop all the yap

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nuthoneycheerios
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if it comes down to it idm buying a prebuilt pc... is ibuypower the leading brand? i know there's nzxt and uhhh other stuff. is it worth it? how much cheaper would it be to build? I also like the appeal of making the pc "my own" if ykwim.

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Do not buy a PC right now....

everything is inflated atleast by 500+ dollars,

I built my pc last october before tarrifs and all this import bullshit. I built it for under 2000$ USD but it is now worth more than 3k..

I got a 4070super for 600 dollars https://imgur.com/a/0hpf8n5 but now its around 1k USD because of tarrifs dude. If you're really desperate you have to go for a low end GPU(which should be fine you are playing cpu demanding games like valorant) but yeah man good luck...

my best bet is to not buy a PC and wait because you are getting scammed or have one of your EU friends build it and then ship it here...

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nuthoneycheerios
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damn ToT nah... maybe I'll plan now and wait to actually buy

maybe I'll bump my budget up a few hundred dollars while I plan right now. how much should I bump it up by??? then again if I wait longer i will be able to afford more ig.

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whaphles
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i would wait because donald trump rn is on a heater brother is ruining the economy but it might get worse as time goes as well so we never know.. you just have to gamble.

if you are going to buy a PC rn heres my advise.

  1. Dont buy intel, you are buying into a dead platform; AM4/5 is the best platform right now and will have support for up to 10+ years meaning you won't have to upgrade your motherboard for another 10 years.
  2. Buy a low end CPU and have all the money for a GPU, its easier to upgrade CPU's because of money/availability/performance wise.
  3. Do not get scammed/waste your money, the biggest thing people waste money on is shit that glows for +50 dollar tradeoff.
  4. go to microcenter and look for bundles/deals/anything on sale.
  5. heres a pc partpicker of a build you could make for under 1600 dollars right now. (wouldve been 1200 pre tarrifs) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8WJGNz, I would save up money for this because any other GPU that is 8gb or like really bad performance is just not worth buying
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nuthoneycheerios
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THANK YOU SO MUCH. probably upgrading cpu's at a min 3-4 years ? amd!!!! yeah idc about a rgb i'd rather have my peripherals have rgb since im gonna put the box on the floor. dude... ty for the list i really appreciate it...

i'll be sale hunting! mostly online, maybe i'll go in person some time just to ask what they're tryna clear

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whaphles
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yes bro do alot of research as well, my first build was really fun :D, yes uypgrading CPU can be in like 3-4 monthjs and u can sometimes trade in to some money off of the new purchase(microcenter perks)

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nuthoneycheerios
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niceee good to know, ty goat

#42
whaphles
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of course bro :D much love. LMK what you decide to go with :D

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make sure you try your hardest to get the gpu at microcenter if you have one near you
online you can see the 9070xt (a new, really good gpu) for $900
msrp its around 700-750
the tariffs fuck everything up, but if you can find a good gpu in stock at msrp or with a deal at microcenter, thats your best bet for saving money

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taint
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is it cheaper/the same for people in the EU/UK? because i also plan on buying parts in the next few months

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whaphles
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WAY WAY cheaper in the europe and other countries that arent US because of tarrifs.

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elbeekeeper
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As others have mentioned, prioritize CPU over GPU. A new GPU would be awesome but a used GPU wouldn't be awful, especially if from a previous generation. I'm pretty happy with my 4060, and with my 12900k I'm able to run Val at 300+ fps on a 1440p monitor.

AMD has trended better recently for gaming. I like Intel, but that's only bc thunderbolt which doesn't mean much for most people and they've trended better for single-threaded tasks, which games often aren't. For the layman, all this means is AMD for gaming, Intel for work. This isn't to say either CPU is bad for either, just a bit of an advantage.

NVMe SSD > SATA SSD. Two different flavors of SSD, but I would make sure your primary is an NVMe. SATA would be fine for secondary storage. Make sure whichever you choose for your primary storage, that's it's at the very least 500gb. It's very easy to download random files, the occasional Steam game on sale, Discord, whatever apps and find that it quickly fills a small drive. 1tb would be better but you'll be fine with 500gb. I recommend Samsung or WD for either NVMe or SATA SSDs.

For choosing RAM, just make sure your motherboard is compatible with it.
For choosing a motherboard, you don't need anything crazy expensive with AI overclocking or whatevs. You probably won't be overclocking your PC anyway, so just make sure it has enough USB ports and NVMe slots. If it doesn't have wifi included, it's not hard to add it later for a couple dozen bucks.

Don't neglect cooling. It probably won't matter which fans you buy nearly as much. Noctua is a good one to go with. If you want RGB, a lot of big names have proprietary software that can be hit or miss and is another app to install.
For your CPU cooler, air cooling can achieve the same results as a liquid cooler (Noctua heatsinks are goated), but I like my AIO liquid cooler because it's less noise.

A big part of cases is aesthetics but that's not the only thing. Check out reviews for any cases you have your eye on to make sure it isn't a headache to build in or maintain.

The combination of CPU and GPU will determine the amount of frames you get. The amount of frames you get won't matter if your monitor can only output 60hz. Even if your game is putting out 250fps, you're only effectively seeing 60 fps on a 60hz monitor. If you can snag your dads or a similar one for cheap for now, you'll be fine. I'm worried a budget of $700-1200 will be just enough for the PC and not much left over for a decent monitor depending on what you choose. I'd aim for $250-500, also depending on whether you just want something that gets the job done or if you want a solid viewing experience. The monitor is what you'll be looking at all the time.

I sell/build/troubleshoot these things for a living so I'm more than happy to answer any questions, this is the roughest outline I could give. I'm sure mongu will guide you in the right direction tho :^)

ETA: you might save some money with a prebuilt, I've often run into Lenovo or HP prebuilds using cases or weird OEM motherboards that do annoying OEM things but the rest of the components are the same. iBuyPower and CyberPower are good. NZXT is pricier. Avoid Alienware. Building a PC is much more fun and rewarding though.

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whaphles
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prebuilts are 200+ expensive, building it urself is better

#47
elbeekeeper
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Two examples:
Best Buy’s price
Incomplete DIY price on PC part picker

Best Buy’s price
Incomplete DIY price on PC part picker

I referenced pictures from customer reviews to get whatever parts to match, but these obviously don’t include all parts and they already come out more than the prebuilt price. You can make some concessions for sure and this definitely doesn’t account for any bundles, but prebuilts aren’t the worst choice.

I do agree that building it yourself is a better experience overall.

#48
whaphles
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didnt take into consideration TAX which is around 100 dollars for this type of product. while you can probably save hundreds of dollars buying it individually with bundles from microcenter and newegg etc

#53
elbeekeeper
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i already acknowledged the pcpartpicker list didn’t account for any bundles.

OP is in the US, and tax is usually a percentage of the subtotal. if a prebuilt is $900 and buying all parts individually are also $900, the sales tax will be the same for either purchase.

you and i both prefer building a pc, we agree on that. im not saying you will save money with a prebuilt 100% of the time, but it’s possible and it’s a valid alternative to building a pc.

#46
GodAwfulGod
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Don't buy windows from Microsoft its stupid expensive, you can just get a key from somewhere and its only like $20-$30 versus $100+

#49
elbeekeeper
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save yourself a couple bucks and use massgrave

#50
wearesocookedchat
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just pirate it man

#52
Yuniee44
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VCT EMEA tech guy, is that you?

#54
Jivko
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buy AMD 7 7800x3d CPU and build around it

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