Do you guys agree with the top 4

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Fuffey

So, are EDG, LEV, SEN, and TH the best 4 teams in the world? or do you think one of these teams had a fluke run and that other teams like GenG or G2 would still clear any of these frauds

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CanadaMan

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Fnatic and DRX are better than Lev and EDG 100% GenG are better than them

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catNmouse

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Why do you think fnatic and drx are better than the teams you mentioned?

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Fnatic mentioned opinion rejected

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babysasuke

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If other teams belonged in the top 4 they wouldn't have lost

Only fluke of this tournament is Fnatic getting out of groups

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Fuffey

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Wtf actually true, Fnatic on any other group and they would get clapped

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smthlikeyou11

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u just have a hate boner for boaster lmao
if BLG and KRU should not have lost then
they also beat g2 so by ur logic g2 should not have made it out of groups too

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cscheater

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i think boaster fucked his girl or something

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Chikenwarrior23

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that's counterintuitive, if fnatic getting into playoffs was a fluke than so was G2

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I still think GenG blow EDG outta the water. Everyone else is pretty deserving ngl.

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AstroGalaxy

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That might just be a match up thing plus we haven't seen edg play lev yet

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beaver_man

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G2 beat Sen and EDG , they deserve it more

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AstroGalaxy

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G2 beat sen like years ago 😭

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cloudberry

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G2 beat SEN 3 times this year, no?

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Diebs

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only twice I think and the kickoff game didn't even matter sen needed only map off g2

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beaver_man

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it was 1 month ago and it was 2-0 😭

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😭 Sen never beat g2 this year

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hi1927

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dont ever talk about the sentinels invitation winners like that bro, oxg owns you!~

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envyz

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couldn't make it past FNATIC which a out of form SEN beat

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teilwal

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out of form sen LMFAOOOOOO

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envyz

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yes of course if you watched that game you could tell SEN played like dogshit lol literally only played good on lotus

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asdpkp123

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the fact they arent in the top 4 says otherwise. But in all honesty why do you think they deserved it more?

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catNmouse

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Didn’t beat fnatic

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Azzelastia

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Fnatic fluke against G2. G2 should be here instead of TH.

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catNmouse

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first part probably, second part hell no

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dort

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sen and th are dogshit and made it there by luck. edg and lev are valid tho

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fart

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KITTT

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we should upgrade it to shart

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Diebs

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flair

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babysasuke

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True, but SEN look better than they did during quals

That might just be because they're playing minor regions though

#31

the_invincible49

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GENG, DRX and FNATIC are not minor regions team. FPX were also insane against TH.

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babysasuke

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Yeah Americas just better I guess

Our 4th seed clears the rest of the world?

#29

the_invincible49

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most braindead take bro. SEN and TH both defeated GENG, the undisputed favorites of the tournament.

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dort

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prx were also the favorites at shanghai. ur point is?

#32

the_invincible49

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My point is u are considering the two teams that qualified out of group of death as dogshit. How did luck play a part in that??

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dort

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geng just had an off day thats all

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the_invincible49

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Yeah u can have a day off in an elimination match.

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the_invincible49

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PRX had not been dominant all year long and GENG had been in every grand finals (regional or international) upto champs.

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Warlordwibz

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Win = Win.
Lose = Lose
Would still clear = would still choke
Team makes top 4 = Deserve top 4.

No IF’s
No conditional BS.

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the_invincible49

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W

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W

#22

FAVOURR

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Its deserved for sure but I feel like GENG could've easily been in the Upper Finals tmrw if they didn't play so shit against SEN especially Lakia

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BulkyLettuce

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and i feel like GENG could've easily been in the Upper Finals tmrw if they didn't play so shit against TH especially Lakia

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against TH aswell yeah

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sussybaka

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best team in the world btw
gets grouped btw

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cristiadu

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I dont know, I think Gen.G is still better than all of them and lost in a bad day. Paper Rex is also better than what they showed.

I also feel America's was weaker this year and a lot of the teams could do similar things like G2 did. LOUD is not a top team but def could've been a playoff team if they didnt fail so much in the beginning.

EMEA seems pretty on point, Karmine Corp dropped a lot so they wouldnt do well anyway. Fnatic did actually better than what I expected

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catNmouse

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Loud management would force them on off meta so nah

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akimb0_

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lots of "i think" "i feel" and a bunch of "if"s, thats now what the game is based off.

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cristiadu

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yea and? the question is literally based on that

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Gummybears

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SEN FLUKE AFTER FLUKE
even the biggest sen glazer must admit they got some bs rounds on lotus

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Ullyr

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Clearly these 4 have the best adaptation and form in this tournament. Like you shouldn't take that away from them.

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RzqoFoxie

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Not by a long shot. This year's top 4 must be the weakest we've ever seen in VCT history

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aexbigb0t

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No man, there for a reason.

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nella3

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Not to take away from any team, but I do still think that GEN should be in the discussion as to who the top teams in the world are, despite getting grouped. All 4 remaining teams seemingly can play to a level that reflects their current position, but there’s no doubt in my mind that present form was a huge factor.

TH: Despite their ups and downs (and my personal bias against them lmao) they have probs been the most deserving bc of their consistency.

EDG: Such massive improvements after Haodong was moved to coach and they picked up S1mon, they have so many braggers and S1mon’s util just enabled them all so well

SEN: Looking better and better with each game, though a bit inconsistent; sometimes their wins feel like some player (usually zekken) just bails them out with his aim.

LEV: imo the weakest team of the 4, and could’ve have easily gone 0-2 in playoffs. Excluding aspas, I still doubt their consistency. They got off with an easy group and having life games out of C0M so far in playoffs.

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nella3

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Honorable mentions: GEN, G2, DRX

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liltrapster

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nah, Gen.G instead of SEN

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jixk

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EDG deserve there spot FNC not so sure but GENG not being here ruins this ngl so no we dont have the best 4 teams but we do have top5-6 with this many upsets happening it is a good result

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xLeo

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I had FNC(ofc biased), TH, LEV and PRX/GENG