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Now that KC roster is official.....

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#1
Congo1

What are your EMEA rankings. Honestly its quite hard this year. I think there arent any shit teams anymore so anything can happen really.

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Only "unknown" roster is koi now?

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Yes. They have trexx sheydos and starxo confirmed

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Honestly so many little things that could change the rankings.
Meta/roles/map pool etc..

This is what i'm feeling right now.
But it's way too bunched up.

S: FNC
A: LIQUID / NAVI / GIANTS / FUT / VIT
B: TH / M8 / BBL / KOI
C: KC

I actually like the KC roster but there's so many different moving elements that I can't really predict much without watching the team play.

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Rumor lately is that kamo might be one of the 2 pick ups, but nothing sure. Maybe I'm just coping cause is who I want

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and bbl, not much is confirmed

#5
911dot
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1st FNC
2nd TH
3rd NaVi
4th-5th FUT/KOI

#6
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S tier: KC because they have n4rrate
A tier: Fnc, probably VIT and TH because they actually picked up fresh talent instead of recycled washed shitmea bots
B tier: TL, FUT, M8, navi, pretty mid teams
C tier: Giants because of redgar
D tier: BBL
Koi is unknown

#7
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  1. FNC
  2. FUT
  3. LIQUID
  4. TH
  5. KC
    5.5. VIT
  6. NaVi
  7. Giants
  8. KOI
  9. M8
  10. BBL

Till VIT all are very close

#9
Valgod
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Its not announced officially

#13
Mortadelo
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Anonimotum hasn't missed a single time, it basically is

#10
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  1. FNC
  2. NAVI
  3. FUT
  4. TL
  5. VIT
  6. GIA
  7. TH
  8. KC
  9. KOI
  10. BBL
  11. M8

NaVi's placements depends a lot on how much Ardiis changes it. NaVi have everrything to become a champions if they didn't just play shitty comps all the time and focused on actual usable stuff, and I believe in Ardiis addition. But overall on paper EMEA looks really competitive and a lot of questionmarks so impossible to tell

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bearmans
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KC is probably 7 or 8.

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Do not expect much, it is not the goal of the roster to perform right away. Just like TH, it is for the best that we do not set high expectations, they're rosters for the future

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Congo1
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I agree. But people tend to call rosters garbage if the finish low regardless of how strong or deep a league is

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not really, i've seen you say multiple times that TH and KC rosters are for the future but no, if you think that kc doesn't want to perform right away then you don't know kc, especially after this horrible season, kc wants nothing but performance and of course i know what you mean they're all young promising rookies (except magnum and shin that have small T1 experience) and they came from T2 so it's unpredictable but we will see what happens, kc is not building a 2 years roster, if it doesn't work this year they will change again in 2025 for sure, not performing a year in esports for kc is unacceptable, let alone 2 years, also don't underestimate T2 players, the skill difference between top T2 players and T1 players is very small so if it clicks and there's synergy and good macro the raw aim in this team will do serious damage in the league

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"if you think that kc doesn't want to perform right away then you don't know kc"
I do not know if they want to perform or not, I know that I think they won't perform. Sure, they might want to win, but that's just not how it works, don't get me wrong there is a chance they do, but you can't expect them to.

Let me word it different, any signing is a bet, all of them can go right or wrong. More specifically when you sign a rookie the bet gets riskier, mainly because of the fact that you have never seen the player perform in any similar environment. So when you're taking 5 bets, building a roster from 0, and add that to the fact that most of them are rookies, your chance of everything going your way is pretty low. Because in order to succeed as you say everything has to go your way, there is not much room for a miss. Which is why I think both TH and KC's projects will be stronger in the future when those players develop and they can see who has worked out and who hasn't.

Also do wanna say, future sounds like next year, which yeah, but also I mean by that that their performance by the end of the year should be much better than at the start. Season's supposed to be long and roster changes are allowed this time, we'll see

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no i agree with you, my beef with you was that i thought you meant 2025 by future, but you meant end of year so lcq + champions so we're ok no beef 🤝

#21
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I believe there is no LCQ, we get like 2/3 splits instead? I'm not sure how it's gonna work but yeah, glad we agree then

#22
kcwhiteknight
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good news, this is way better

#15
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Top 10/9, young kids with very demanding KC supporters (some of them gonna crack under the pressure ...)
I don't expect much, just please don't gives a dogshit performance like in 23.

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  1. KC

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