posting this early because Im 100% sure Optic will choke against Zeta
both teams got eliminated by Loud and Zeta
Unfortunately Liquid faced them very early thanks to rito
if they got better seeding they could have made it to the top 3 just like Optic
reality check for the poor NA fans
your best team is not better than EUs 4th seed
you just got lucky and dodged all the good teams
edit: Calm down guys. Optic played horrible and fluked on Haven and it broke Zeta mental.
NomadsX6 [#4]Not an upset if Zeta wins because zeta the best team in the world
it’s only an upset if Optic wins
Liquid looked awful this tournament strategically. The only time they looked good was if Scream or Jampii popped off. As soon as they replace soulcas with someone decent I am more than certain they will be as good as Optic if not better. They have all the right tools minus one player.
Edit: braindead liquid fans only read the first two sentences LMAO
commonW [#11]Optic lost to Xerxia too
so I think Liquid > Optic just because Optic always chokes early in tournaments while Liquid are more consistent.
Liquid? Consistent? Envy/Optic has been top 3 at last tournament and now they have a top 3 secured at this tournament.
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#9]Man, you are so braindead it's impressive.
Liquid gets nowhere even CLOSE to beating DRX. Something you conveniently left off there.
insecure NA fan detected
Chodez [#15]Liquid? Consistent? Envy/Optic has been top 3 at last tournament and now they have a top 3 secured at this tournament.
top 3 at last tournament? you mean top 3 in groups at champs?
ciro [#17]top 3 at last tournament? you mean top 3 in groups at champs?
sorry the tournament previous. not champs. they are still infinitely more conistent than Shitquid
Chodez [#15]Liquid? Consistent? Envy/Optic has been top 3 at last tournament and now they have a top 3 secured at this tournament.
last tournament they went out 2-0
number1_ScreaM_fan [#16]insecure NA fan detected
It's not insecurity it's just the truth. If you genuinely copiumed yourself into thinking Liquid and OpTic are on the same level then you are extremely delusional.
Chodez [#18]sorry the tournament previous. not champs. they are still infinitely more conistent than Shitquid
then their consistency is the same as liquid. top 4 reykavik, top 4 champs, top 8 reykavik. Optic: top 2, top 16, top 3
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#20]It's not insecurity it's just the truth. If you genuinely copiumed yourself into thinking Liquid and OpTic are on the same level then you are extremely delusional.
liquid got more rounds against loud than optic did or as a matter of fact any other team that ever versed them did. If optic gets 2-0 by zeta then this thread is pretty much true
number1_ScreaM_fan [#23]liquid got more rounds against loud than optic did or as a matter of fact any other team that ever versed them did. If optic gets 2-0 by zeta then this thread is pretty much true
LMFAO. That is the most stupid logic I've ever heard.
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#24]LMFAO. That is the most stupid logic I've ever heard.
wahts ur logic? shitquid trash cuz they optic beat drx? xerxia beat optic 2-0 whereas lost to liquid 2-1
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#25]Nah I'm genuinely bookmarking this thread for when other regions wake up lmao. This shit is straight disrespectful to OpTic.
what did optic achieve? beating guard was like dropkicking a child. u guys beat drx pretty shaikly whereas zeta pretty much dominated them.
number1_ScreaM_fan [#27]wahts ur logic? shitquid trash cuz they optic beat drx? xerxia beat optic 2-0 whereas lost to liquid 2-1
You're using the logic that basically says "BBG was the best in the world because they 2-0d sen before their Iceland run"
number1_ScreaM_fan [#28]what did optic achieve? beating guard was like dropkicking a child. u guys beat drx pretty shaikly whereas zeta pretty much dominated them.
DRX was the best team of the tourney up until that point LMFAO. You EU people will find any way to discredit OpTic. They are far better than Liquid currently.
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#29]You're using the logic that basically says "BBG was the best in the world because they 2-0d sen before their Iceland run"
bruh i never said liquid is better than optic i said they were pretty much similar cuz both got knocked out by zeta and loud (unless optic upset zeta). nt
number1_ScreaM_fan [#32]bruh i never said liquid is better than optic i said they were pretty much similar cuz both got knocked out by zeta and loud (unless optic upset zeta). nt
They aren't similar levels though. This Liquid doesn't even touch the DRX that OpTic played.
Chodez [#15]Liquid? Consistent? Envy/Optic has been top 3 at last tournament and now they have a top 3 secured at this tournament.
at every LAN Liquid has attended (with the exception of this one), they've secured 3rd-4th. That's consistent if u ask me. What's not consistent is going from grand finalist in Masters 3 to getting grouped in Champs (OpTic)
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#9]Man, you are so braindead it's impressive.
Liquid gets nowhere even CLOSE to beating DRX. Something you conveniently left off there.
ZETA vs TL
13-7
4-13
13-7
30-27 round difference: 3
ZETA vs DRX
13-11
10-13
13-4
36-28 round difference: 8
Liquid was closer to beat Zeta than DRX
TL > DRX
number1_ScreaM_fan [#23]liquid got more rounds against loud than optic did or as a matter of fact any other team that ever versed them did. If optic gets 2-0 by zeta then this thread is pretty much true
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kristof [#38]ZETA vs TL
13-7
4-13
13-7
30-27 round difference: 3ZETA vs DRX
13-11
10-13
13-4
36-28 round difference: 8Liquid was closer to beat Zeta than DRX
TL > DRX
u forgot the opening game DRX vs ZETA tho
13-2
13-3
and while it might seem biased I think I can confidently say that had DRX matched up with Liquid in this tournament they would have won.
number1_ScreaM_fan [#23]liquid got more rounds against loud than optic did or as a matter of fact any other team that ever versed them did. If optic gets 2-0 by zeta then this thread is pretty much true
Yeah and no other team beat them in a map 13-2
archetype [#45]u forgot the opening game DRX vs ZETA tho
13-2
13-3and while it might seem biased I think I can confidently say that had DRX matched up with Liquid in this tournament they would have won.
Zeta needed time to warm up
kristof [#49]Zeta needed time to warm up
Can't make that argument because if you actually watched the DRX/ZETA 1st game you'd realise ZETA was still doing good lol yeah they got better during the tournament but it wasn't a huuuge jump.
Plus you could say DRX were mental boomed because of the OpTic loss.
Plus in Liquid's case you could say ZETA was tired because they'd been on a fucked schedule.
And round difference doesn't matter because TL got clearly dominated by ZETA on 2 maps and couldn't even take double-digit rounds, whereas DRX only got dominated on 1 (if we're talking about the rematch)
archetype [#50]Can't make that argument because if you actually watched the DRX/ZETA 1st game you'd realise ZETA was still doing good lol yeah they got better during the tournament but it wasn't a huuuge jump.
Plus you could say DRX were mental boomed because of the OpTic loss.
Plus in Liquid's case you could say ZETA was tired because they'd been on a fucked schedule.
And round difference doesn't matter because TL got clearly dominated by ZETA on 2 maps and couldn't even take double-digit rounds, whereas DRX only got dominated on 1 (if we're talking about the rematch)
this is just copium
kristof [#51]this is just copium
how is it copium
DRX beat ZETA 26-5 in their first meetup, TL didn't.
On the rematch, DRX got past double digits on 2 maps and lost 11-13 on Icebox.
Liquid came close to neither of this.
Round differential doesn't mean anything. DRX beat OpTic based on round differential.
Look at the scoreline. It's very obvious that DRX had closer maps than TL.
edit: ok i cant take a guy who said
"liquid is not even supposed to be here
and they are saving strats for champions. nobody cares about mickey mouse masters"
seriously
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#34]They aren't similar levels though. This Liquid doesn't even touch the DRX that OpTic played.
he has a Liquid flair you ain't winning this argument
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