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why is riot changing lotus?

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#1
kyro1

i think everyone liked what state that map was in maybe minor adjustments would be ok like to the tree wall etc. but it really doesn't need a rework

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Wolfed
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we really gotta get rid of a main, thats a popular opinion

#3
kyro1
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r you serious? thats the best part of the map you get these big skirmishes at the start of rounds into reaction plays its very fun to watch and play imo

#5
Wolfed
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brooo feeeell foooor theeee baaaaiiiit skuuuull emooojiiii

#6
BerLINglazer
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bro thinks hes funny

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Wolfed
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random kid? who is he? bro thinks he's on the team? our brains are?

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temi
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Idk if that will be a thing anymore with util refresh time and veto... u use ur util to aggro a main as ct and attack hits c or b and u have almost nothing left

#21
MrBlooBloom
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everyone was already using non refreshable util for this fight anyway

#22
temi
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with standard fnatic comp depending on team to take rubble
raze satchels nade, fade eye or tether or both, viper molly, maybe omen aggro tp
if opposing team has veto all that util is useless so now u have to use omen paranoia maybe
if its double duelist yoru u lose the viper util

ur left with fade prowlers, what ever senti util (kj mollies or vyse thorns) and maybe omen paranoia...

att could have used just veto interceptor or yoru flash tp or something like that and can insta react to hit b or c

so some teams might decide to not invest in fighting early but later when they have confirmed numbers are there as a punish etc

#23
MrBlooBloom
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if its double duelist yoru u lose the viper util

most teams won't play a senti on lotus bro, but whatever, it doesn't change the point that teams are already not using only refreshable util, and that will be even more a thing with double duelist as you have less coldown based util.
Also your points rely on playing against or with a veto which isn't a thing for most teams in the first place

#4
shaq_attaqr
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well if they fix the odin spam on tree then the map becomes mega attack sided, taking a rubble being way stronger is very hard for defenders to play around since you can pivot to b. I assume they're gonna fix some of the c waterfall spams too which is has a similar effect with making planting on c easier. They need to compensate and make other changes to make life easier for defenders, maybe make pivoting to b weaker and make c easier to anchor

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It makes no sense, like why would they change the only perfect map they have ever made while keeping the anti-fun snoozefest that is haven virtually the same for 6 years straight? Just goes to show that riot have no fucking clue what they are doing

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Wolfed
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and haven is one of the better maps too...

#10
Pomshies
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idk about that but it’s better than corrode at least

#11
Wolfed
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corrode is not that bad either imo

icebox is the real problem

#12
Pomshies
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corrode is just sooooo boring i hate it so much

but yes i agree icebox is bad as well

#13
Wolfed
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hate?😟

#14
Pomshies
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yes I HATE that map 😡

#15
Wolfed
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no, WE dont use that word for silly things.

#16
Pomshies
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oh ok sorry, then I’ll just say that I despise Corrode 🙂‍↕️

#17
Wolfed
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W pomshies

#19
king_bob
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it’s the only map since its release i actually consider to be good and consistently fun to play i think they just couldn’t allow that to continue on like it just doesn’t mesh well with their map philosophy in that every map in valorant must be either complete dogshit and/or imitations of ascent

#20
Tempest24
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the only map they didnt need to change :(

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