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telegrxm
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a lot of people really arent taking ewc seriously, with tons of people brushing it off as 'just an off season tournament'??

i think we should probably start considering it in a way higher regard given the prize pool and competition going into it

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nobody cares

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telegrxm
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faloxxl [#2]

nobody cares

but why

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uwukitten
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yeah with how the top 2 teams of the split qualify (+2 other teams) this shit should be considered more valuable than kickoff 💀

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GarbanzoEnjoyer
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it's got unstreamed Bo1s and the actual best teams are too focused on Toronto to give a damn

It's the mickey of all mickeys

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well if you realistically think about it
they JUST played regular season
so they had no time to prepare new stuff post tejo nerfs
so they're just playing with an older playbook

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faloxxl
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telegrxm [#3]

but why

there is just no emotion like just no prod, looks like a tier 10 tournament

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SleepingSnorlax
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Let the bandwagoners enjoy hating EWC first and after a while they will comeback on track and start watching this Mickey Mouse games

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telegrxm
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faloxxl [#7]

there is just no emotion like just no prod, looks like a tier 10 tournament

to be fair we aren't even out of qualifiers yet so the games arent a very big deal

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uwukitten [#4]

yeah with how the top 2 teams of the split qualify (+2 other teams) this shit should be considered more valuable than kickoff 💀

It's for sure more valuable than even a entire split for some teams like g2 who have like confirmed slot for champs now. Valyn literally said it. And he said it that players may not want to try hard cause of tight schedule but the org wants them to try hard. Ewc is big chance for these orgs to make some free money.

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SENfns [#6]

well if you realistically think about it
they JUST played regular season
so they had no time to prepare new stuff post tejo nerfs
so they're just playing with an older playbook

Isn't ewc going to be played in old patch?

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telegrxm
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Realfacts [#10]

It's for sure more valuable than even a entire split for some teams like g2 who have like confirmed slot for champs now. Valyn literally said it. And he said it that players may not want to try hard cause of tight schedule but the org wants them to try hard. Ewc is big chance for these orgs to make some free money.

^^ it's an opportunity for teams that otherwise got snubbed in regular split competition to find some footing in an international tournament imo, literally half of the slots can be potential underdogs

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Realfacts [#11]

Isn't ewc going to be played in old patch?

no, it's only the qualification
there's no way they're playing it on a month+ old patch

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SENfns
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Realfacts [#11]

Isn't ewc going to be played in old patch?

idk i thought it already happened cuz nobody seems to be running tejo

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Bootlicking for free?

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zetydy
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Horrible format, no Lan so far, poor scheduling, horrible production, and first time the tournament has been run. What do you expect?

The first few games weren't even streamed.

Money is only one factor. I could hold a 3 million dollar money match bo1 in my backyard and it wouldn't make the victor the best team in the world.

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telegrxm
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TM06Nick [#15]

Bootlicking for free?

bootlicking who??? i dont really check vlr twitter so idk any of the beef im just looking at this tournament as is

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telegrxm
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zetydy [#16]

Horrible format, no Lan so far, poor scheduling, horrible production, and first time the tournament has been run. What do you expect?

The first few games weren't even streamed.

Money is only one factor. I could hold a 3 million dollar money match bo1 in my backyard and it wouldn't make the victor the best team in the world.

true but i mean your 3/4 of your reasons are kind of explained by the fact that its the first time theyve done it, and i'd the quality can only improve

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telegrxm [#18]

true but i mean your 3/4 of your reasons are kind of explained by the fact that its the first time theyve done it, and i'd the quality can only improve

Yea but you're asking why people are calling it a mickey right now. And the answer is that right now the tournament is horrible.

Maybe in the future it'll be bigger, but these tournaments also often rebrand and shift, and they never give a lot of forethought to these things anyway. So prob not. Either way that's just speculation and right now the tournament sucks.

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telegrxm
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zetydy [#19]

Yea but you're asking why people are calling it a mickey right now. And the answer is that right now the tournament is horrible.

Maybe in the future it'll be bigger, but these tournaments also often rebrand and shift, and they never give a lot of forethought to these things anyway. So prob not. Either way that's just speculation and right now the tournament sucks.

but the tournament has even been played, we're just in the qualifiers

although its fair enough to say that the quality of these qualifiers have been bad enough to set a pretty awful precedent for what the actual lan event might be like lol

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telegrxm [#20]

but the tournament has even been played, we're just in the qualifiers

although its fair enough to say that the quality of these qualifiers have been bad enough to set a pretty awful precedent for what the actual lan event might be like lol

Qualifiers are also a big part of the tournament tho. They directly inform who plays in the main event, and if other teams or the community believes the path to qualify was bad—and therefore the qualifying teams don't deserve to be there and aren't better than the people they beat out—then it invalidates a lot of the respect you get for winning the tournament. It also makes it easier to brush it off when or if you lose.

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telegrxm [#17]

bootlicking who??? i dont really check vlr twitter so idk any of the beef im just looking at this tournament as is

your post reads like saudi glaze

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uwukitten [#4]

yeah with how the top 2 teams of the split qualify (+2 other teams) this shit should be considered more valuable than kickoff 💀

uwukitten you always have horrendous takes

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zetydy [#21]

Qualifiers are also a big part of the tournament tho. They directly inform who plays in the main event, and if other teams or the community believes the path to qualify was bad—and therefore the qualifying teams don't deserve to be there and aren't better than the people they beat out—then it invalidates a lot of the respect you get for winning the tournament. It also makes it easier to brush it off when or if you lose.

the top 2 teams from each region go which is equivalent to the qualification for Bangkok/madrid lol. the emea and americas qualifiers were fine (competitively speaking), apac is garbage and idk about china

I think regardless of how bad the qualifiers are the top 2 teams from each region are going regardless so the level of play is high

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dezzo
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even gc is more interesting than ewc

#26
firo
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it's just an offseason tournament really. unless it has like its legit dedicated circuit and not just some couple of days qualifiers, it really is just mickey mouse.

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kanyenum1fan
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dezzo [#25]

even gc is more interesting than ewc

stop

#28
AltonBu02
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It could have a billion dollar prize and it would still be mickey mouse. It's ewc bro lock in.

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USCK
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AltonBu02 [#28]

It could have a billion dollar prize and it would still be mickey mouse. It's ewc bro lock in.

So what its mickey mouse you still get so see the best teams in the world on stage competing against each other

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USCK [#29]

So what its mickey mouse you still get so see the best teams in the world on stage competing against each other

nah it's cool to watch, but the stakes aren't the same obviously. I'd still watch it over nothing, but it doesn't compare to vct (hot take ik).

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faloxxl [#7]

there is just no emotion like just no prod, looks like a tier 10 tournament

PROD?

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uwukitten
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teilwal [#23]

uwukitten you always have horrendous takes

what is wrong about what I said? the top 2 teams are going just like in kickoff the americas, emea and china qualifiers are practically the same as kickoff. pacific qualifier was bad since it's bo1 and that's about it

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dezzo [#25]

even gc is more interesting than ewc

Simp / creep behaviour

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