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hyperbanjo

I don't think there worse coach in league-team than him in terms of getting above average players and completing worst team.

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Well he did win ascension which is more than what 90% of franchised coaches can say. His team is playing terrible this year but I wouldn’t attribute it to him only without knowing. In this type of situations I get the feeling the coach doesn’t have much of a saying in roster movements and stuff

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If it was GE's Spin everyone would be abusing him tbh!!

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ngl spin is a bad coach his team is usually lost in some maps

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Their reads are really good, he and Russell are doing a great job but to close maps you need to shoot you're opponents

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Spin has absolutely no achievements at all and 2 years to proof he is a good coach. Legija has been in 5 tier 1 games

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Tsikhamani

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Compared to his experience, spin at least knows his players strong agents unlike legija who puts zest on gekko while his viper is far better than scary

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sometimes its abt finding the middleground, where most of the guys are comfortable in their roles. you wanna put scary on gekko?

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Tsikhamani

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Deryeon should try it!! And Zest should stick with fade, viper and sova!!

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Mortadelo

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As I said if he made the roster it's in part his fault (Even tho that doesn't sound that bad), but if he didn't it's understandable to have weird roles

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Tsikhamani

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It's not like they have bad players, they win rounds because of their good aim.

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Mortadelo

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He has 2 players whose’s English is terrible one of them being their IGL, the worst duelist in Pacific and 2 more players. Vibe on the team can’t be good. Looks like a pretty hard situation to me

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not that it changes ur point, but
2nd worst duelist, yay is statistically better than polvi in every aspect
FB, FB-FD, ACS, KD, Kast, DPR, clutch %, you name it

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Mortadelo

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Fair enough but yeah, doesn’t change much

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Tsikhamani

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I don't know about scary's English but he baits his teammates to become a hero!

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lots of people are abusing legija rn don't act like he isn't

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i was on the same boat but then i watched sunset and they didnt play retake once with the sen comp

surely a gameplan issue, even when they got 9999 other problems

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it's more than gameplay issue I think, could be the vibes outside of the game too and I bet their comms played a big part too. sSnake english is bad bad, having IGL who can't speak fluently is...rough

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couldn’t they do zest igl?

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Zest English is even worse

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wtf are those pickups then 💀

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Idfk lol

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Zest english is way worse than sSnake, this is the problem from korean and Japanese players, only a handful of them can speak english comfortably sadly

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Mortadelo

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Yeah not saying he is doing well, but if he didn't have a say on the team roster movements (Which maybe he did idk), it's hard to work.Vibe inside the team could be bad and also Zest English is pretty bad. Idk I think the team has too many problems to blame it all on the coach. That being said he's definitely not doing well that is for sure

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i think if you copy a comp on your own map pick, you should be able to figure out the advantages of the comp. and the basics of the map...

like playing one site for retake is the very basic sunset meta, esp with the sen comp... you dont really hold down sites, never.

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Mortadelo

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That's the thing, Bleed played really well last year and was definitely able to do that. If they can't now it's deeper than that. Look at KOI for example, Barbar has proven in the past he knows how to make a gameplan but there are way too many other issues that it doesn't show in game. (He should go tho)

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Certainly he deserves credit for his past accomplishments, but I have no sympathy for BLD situation since I learned that he had spoken of mCe and Kaplan by name as "coaches who ruin players".

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The what you don't like is the person not the coach. It's important to differentiate, happens a lot with players with strong personalities like Boaster, he gets way more shit as a player than he deserve because people don't like the character

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you can attribute it to him i mean he saw in the first few games including kickoff that yay on raze is just not it so why not try to put the ''best chamber player'' on chamber again on maps like lotus or slap him on a killjoy when theyre playing raze maps and you give deryon a try on raze

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last year it was good. there was just one bad team (DFM) and rest played well. This year its horrific, every other team is having a new low performance.
It's like the meta has forced them to be like this or what idk.
You can't really blame all the coaches i think.

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Ballsamolee

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nah i think its only bleed and ge that are doing bad. every other team is fine.

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doc_octavius

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did you see zeta/talon?

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Honestly talon got better and zeta didn’t improve. The teams are closer together in terms of skill now compared to last year where it was just paper rex/drx

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BUFF163

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legija is goated, the problem is y0y

look at the stats

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you look at their somewhat good performance on the Ascent and then are left to wonder why the fuck was this their Insta ban for the first two weeks. I mean, it should be common sense that this is like the one map that has the main meta comp and all of Bleeds' players on their best agents.

then there's also the problem of him not building the comp around his players at all. and it's not even that they are not playing Chamber; there are multiple other options that work better, like playing Neon comp on Lotus. We already know Yay is competent on it, at least more than his Raze, or they could just put him on Astra and have scary viper dereyon raze. They also could just throw his ass on brim on bind and play double smokes with Dereyon on Raze. we've seen the case study on like every other duelist. NOTICE HOW NO OTHER DUELIST IS GETTING PUT ON VIPER smokes can still work on maps.

Also, why have they just not played Breeze? it is literally the only map other than Ascent, which has each of their players on their best characters with a meta comp.

I swear it's like legia has zero flexibility at all

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Yes they were bad right now, but things like roster shuffle, i don’t think its on his hands. I do believe Bleed management has control on it, including yay stuff