another bad year for apac

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prx lost jinggg
drx still has termi (will troll agents and maps)
t1 is a new team
and all other teams will be mid🤕
y does our region not want to win a fuckin major

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yay

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let's take a team that is mid
add yay
suddenly able to compete with fnatic and allat?
fuck no

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Bleed with just the roster that won ascension would finish top 3 in this apac, let’s see what egoist and yay can do

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winning a tournament where your competitors are SCARZ and DK does not put you in top 3 pacific lol

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Only teams better t1 drx prx and they will most likely be better than drx unless they make some actual changes

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Bleed with nephh and juicy were better than fnatic too ngl

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y0y

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hey

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wym
this is the best year for APAC because the greatest player of all time is joining apac team

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y0y

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GE enters the chat...

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how is T1 being new a bad thing

In fact, that's a good thing because they look very improved.

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truth, can't help but wonder wtf did gen g do letting k1ng go like that

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Hynix

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i think they could possibly challenge prx and drx for sure but won't be able to win a major yet
just a speculation though, admittedly less supported by any actual evidence on my part

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it all really depends on xccurate tbh

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and u will probably get y0y, even worse

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GE is winning tho??

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T1 made the biggest upgrades they could, im sad as a carpe fanboy but it is what it is. hopefully he grows there.
RRQ looking good, they are cooking.
PRX got monyet, which isn't a jinggg replacement because no one else could be. but he is a top tier player and they can reach new peaks.
DRX has termii sadly, but he is (very sadly) the best korean option for a coach unless u import potter and she re learns korean.
BLEED yay. thats all im gonna say.

APAC DYNASTY BEGINS.

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ok other than bleed u make a decent point
i want some of what ur smoking man i could really use some wins

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There is so much crazy doubt on Bleed with Yay for some reason, they really think Bleed's old roster would not have been able to beat T1 even tho they were smoking them before in pracc.

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god i wish juicy was still in, that guy was so cracked :(((

but yeah, why the fuck do people doubt BLEED? crazyguy is an insane fragging igl, and his calling has been great, sscary top 3 controller itw, EGOIST was gonna go to PRX and alecks is very good at scouting, and yay as a juicy replacement? jesus, they gonna do some damage.

i think its very possible they gonna upset PRX/DRX and they gonna compete with t1 who are also cooking.

also the main thing about t1, is that they made A LOT of upgrades, and very good ones. so smoking 23' t1 isnt the same as 24' t1.

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Yeah if Juicy was allowed in it would have been a even more crazier roster. T1's problem for me are them not having a real great Igl and their midrounding being somewhat lackluster at certain moments at Champs and Tokyo, this really put my expectations lower for them. Aside from that the upgrades are really good tho on paper and Xccurate should be able to bring in some experience, if they fix the igling issue they could and should compete for top 3 in APAC. I also somewhat expect RRQ to be a real dark horse tho for this next year, Jemkin and Estrella are some real great upgrades over the old players they had, their coaching and adjustments throughout the season also were superb, I am kinda excited to see what Ewok is gonna bring out with this improved RRQ.

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winning a tournament where your competitors are SCARZ and DK does not make a team a contender for a major

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and regardless the players are good? sscary took a 1mill contract to play for BLEED in the first place

him winning vs SCARZ and DK doesnt make him good, the fact that he is good makes him good.

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if we don't assess matchups against other teams what are where are we supposed to get the notion that any player is "good"? don't get me wrong, sscary is an insane player, but if you're not basing that off of winning ascension what are you basing it on? 2022?

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Even if you are assess matchups, you are probably being wrong. Teams like Jadeite and Mith had been romured throughout the year that they had been destroying tier 1 teams in scrims and both of those orgs didn't even make it to Ascension, you are very presumptuous in claiming Ascension and tier2 in APAC was bad and believing they wouldn't be able to compete in tier1.

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Putting words into my mouth like that is crazy. I never said that the Ascension teams weren't T1-ready or bad at all. I'm saying that by beating those teams you wouldn't be in contention to win a major.
+scrims and rumors mean nothing to me personally

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Then I misunderstood and am sorry. I was more pissed off of Ascension being kinda put aside. But yes Bleed isn't a masters winners candidate in all likelihood, I was more thinking of them being able to qualify to like one tourney or more throughout the season.

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You are saying this as if Scarz, DK and Boom wouldn't have been able to beat teams like T1, GenG, Zeta, TS and RRQ. APAC only had two great teams throughout this year in tier1 with DRX and PRX, the others looked very unfinished, inconsistent rough and lacked achievements in the internationals. This next year should be just more competitive in general and Bleed is not bad at all, just because you think Ascension wasn't good in Apac, for my part I do believe that the old roster of Scarz and Bleed would have been able to make the rest of APAC tier 1 sweat aside from the top 2 . They have some real potential and have great staff that can make it work.

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More competitive in Pacific this year? Yes, I agree because PRX is worse than last year and many of the other teams are better. But PRX being worse than last year means that Pacific has even less of a chance to win a major. I'm not trying to say any team specifically is bad, but I'm pointing on in this thread that Pacific is in an even worse spot than last year.

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I don't get how PRX is that much worse when they have insane enough time to adjust and prepare with Monyet who also had unbelievable stats and a debatable better apac season individually than Jinggg. He isn't Jinggg and Nobody is and plays like him, he probably won't pull out rounds win out of nowhere like him. But it is also not like you are giving him even the chance to showcase the skill he has and the potential he brings to the team. He has a way bigger agent pool than Jinggg, he doesn't overheat as much as him but he is an incredible smart and good player that could change and benifit the gameplay style for PRX in the long term. They will be able to flex more crazy agents comps and could profit of Monyet not doing the same mistakes as Jinggg does against eco rounds.

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Don’t worry yay will win assific a trophy this year

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Because APAC is hard trolling with talent scouting. Need to fking bring up more Tier 2 talents. Korean tier 2 talents going to china cause no team picking them up lol

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This is true KR especially has no fucking idea how to make a fully good team.

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yay will win a trophy for APAC dw