you guys can call this a bad take but I feel like johnqt won't shine and will be like in a dephh situation except better. he struggled in tier 2(low acs) which should drop in tier1 because there is more challenge. At the beginning of the year, we all said that m80 has a cracked roster. Most of their players are tier one material while other teams either have 2 max or else(except The Guard). It was expected for those two to be in the finals. I'm sure his igling is decent but his stats aren't really showing it, all of m80s achievement were really expected because of their firepower.
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saving slot to shame you later for being low iq
JohnQT is literally known for being mechanically gifted, he was one of the better t2 duelists before being an igl, LMFAO and like, he's not a great caller imo but his control on the team is there, afaik Kaplan made him an igl so the chemistry is there, he's literally the complete opposite of an IGL like dephh who cant call from senti, frag or have good midrounds
Lets_talk [#3]Maybe. They have zellsis now so, I think they might swap players if things doesn't work well. But the problem is people will go after TenZ if SEN doesn't perform. I already see people saying "Let Zellsis play in place of TenZ and we win" situations.
idk i feel like thats every time sen brings a new player in. its always overhyped.
333triplethreat [#4]idk i feel like thats every time sen brings a new player in. its always overhyped.
I mean, it's good for Johnqt. Man streams are Poping off. Atleast he can get the clout and if he uses it correctly, it's a win-win for him and Org. Time will tell.
But if you believe in Scrim results. Sentinels were dominating Scrims with Champion teams. PRX , FNC , EG(I think saw a clip from Ethan) they all said New SEN is power house.
while i dont think he wont be the top of the top, hes still a upgrade over dephh and marved ( in terms of IGLing ) and everyone gets to play on there comfort role, and plus the raw aim and potential that trhis team has a mid IGL could change this team in the right direction, feels like maybe a 2022 prx but upgraded
michaelisupset [#6]johnqt was the 7th highest rated player during the challengers league and the 11th during the ascension tournament. he is great mechanically.
If u look at acs and apr, hes below average. Rating can be good but at the same time, unreliable
Shawn23 [#7]while i dont think he wont be the top of the top, hes still a upgrade over dephh and marved ( in terms of IGLing ) and everyone gets to play on there comfort role, and plus the raw aim and potential that trhis team has a mid IGL could change this team in the right direction, feels like maybe a 2022 prx but upgraded
Thats what they said with marved(decent igl + insane aim)
333triplethreat [#9]Thats what they said with marved(decent igl + insane aim)
comparing johnqt to marved kinda shows you dont know ball
333triplethreat [#9]Thats what they said with marved(decent igl + insane aim)
i litearlly just said john is a good igl over dephh and marved lmao tbf John is probably a Top 5 NA IGL, but that aint saying much not that many good IGLs
cboomer [#10]comparing johnqt to marved kinda shows you dont know ball
How, marved stepped in as igl, their igls r practically the same since johnqt is overrated 😂
Shawn23 [#11]i litearlly just said john is a good igl over dephh and marved lmao tbf John is probably a Top 5 NA IGL, but that aint saying much not that many good IGLs
Yeah, the new player is always better, u sen fans been saying that for like 2 years.
333triplethreat [#12]How, marved stepped in as igl, their igls r practically the same since johnqt is overrated 😂
completely different players
cboomer [#2]saving slot to shame you later for being low iq
JohnQT is literally known for being mechanically gifted, he was one of the better t2 duelists before being an igl, LMFAO and like, he's not a great caller imo but his control on the team is there, afaik Kaplan made him an igl so the chemistry is there, he's literally the complete opposite of an IGL like dephh who cant call from senti, frag or have good midrounds
Yeah is johnqt on duelist tho? And ur literally proving my point, where is dephh and sykko(who taught dephh and also went with good chemistry)
Sure his duelist skills r good, but it’s irrelevant since he isnt playing that(maybe once in a while). His main is sentinel and he hasnt been putting up good numbers.
All the people who r upfragging u r actually sen riders 😂😂
333triplethreat [#8]If u look at acs and apr, hes below average. Rating can be good but at the same time, unreliable
He plays sentinal no shit his acs is low
Hachey67 [#17]He plays sentinal no shit his acs is low
Yet 2 of trhe best players in the world, always performing r sentinel mains
Just becuz ur role is sentinel, doesnt mean u cant have good aim
333triplethreat [#18]Yet 2 of trhe best players in the world, always performing r sentinel mains
Just becuz ur role is sentinel, doesnt mean u cant have good aim
less averages far more on viper than on kj moron
ur just low iq this hurts so bad
he literally plays a different role he ANCHORS less and alfa LURK
333triplethreat [#16]How, u say these and dont explain 😂😂
Cope harder kid
marved is a risk basked lurking controlller johnqt is a dedicated caller who anchors on sentinel
333triplethreat [#15]Yeah is johnqt on duelist tho? And ur literally proving my point, where is dephh and sykko(who taught dephh and also went with good chemistry)
Sure his duelist skills r good, but it’s irrelevant since he isnt playing that(maybe once in a while). His main is sentinel and he hasnt been putting up good numbers.
All the people who r upfragging u r actually sen riders 😂😂
what are you on about bad numbers?
StalwartTiger_35 [#23]what are you on about bad numbers?
Acs, ascension it was like 170 average or at least below 180
cboomer [#19]less averages far more on viper than on kj moron
ur just low iq this hurts so bad
he literally plays a different role he ANCHORS less and alfa LURK
Y r u talking about viper???
And ur stupid if u dont think johnqt doesnt lurk. Also most people lurk ob attacker side and anchor on defender side so idk what ur saying.
SaltyMcNulty [#21]He isn't a sentinel like less or nAts who lurks a lot and finds great timings. Also, ngl IGL+senti is a recipe for low ACS. When he played initiator his ACS was good.
LMAO, IN ASCENSION IM P SURE IT WAS 151 OR SOMETHING DONT MAKE ME LAUGH
cboomer [#20]marved is a risk basked lurking controlller johnqt is a dedicated caller who anchors on sentinel
Im talking about igl and aim. Marved aim is way better than johnqt. In what way as johnqt impressed us? Beating tier 2 team with a practically full tier one or 1.5 team.
333triplethreat [#24]Acs, ascension it was like 170 average or at least below 180
yeah cause acs on a senti/controller player igl is a good measuring tool for a good player
dont be stupid, but can expect too much from ur flair
333triplethreat [#13]Yeah, the new player is always better, u sen fans been saying that for like 2 years.
says the 100T fan who has lost to SEN like, EVERY time they faced off. Marved stepped up into the igl role yes, but he wasn't meant to be an igl. He did fine but unlike johnqt, he didnt have actual experience igling. Johnqt igled a team from t2 to almost t1, 2nd place. Arguing his acs is low is the worst take 'cause FNS is literally the best NA igl but his acs has always been low. IGLs' biggest contribution isnt fragging, it's the calling.
333triplethreat [#26]LMAO, IN ASCENSION IM P SURE IT WAS 151 OR SOMETHING DONT MAKE ME LAUGH
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1653/champions-tour-2023-americas-ascension
180 acs is more than fine for him cuz he had all his other 4 players who were cracked.
Why r u comparing less and alfajer to johnqt, john is an igl and therefore stays back to give calls rather than just die and provide no value
The more accurate comparision will be johnqt vs. FNS, boaster, saadhak( since we're starting to compare him T1 pros now)
333triplethreat [#26]LMAO, IN ASCENSION IM P SURE IT WAS 151 OR SOMETHING DONT MAKE ME LAUGH
we all know acs is scuffed this just shows ur bronze
acs doenst show you how much impact you have on the game, its just a stat that combines assists and kills
doesnt paint the whole picture.
its like saying mindfreak is a bad players because he always goes negative
Charism [#30]https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1653/champions-tour-2023-americas-ascension
180 acs is more than fine for him cuz he had all his other 4 players who were cracked.
Why r u comparing less and alfajer to johnqt, john is an igl and therefore stays back to give calls rather than just die and provide no valueThe more accurate comparision will be johnqt vs. FNS, boaster, saadhak( since we're starting to compare him T1 pros now)
but the difference is they actually can igl. idk about boaster but his clutch rate is hella high. saadhak and fns are way above johnqt, theres no way ur comparing them. if johnqt was good, he would have been on tier one this year.
GhostKing44 [#29]says the 100T fan who has lost to SEN like, EVERY time they faced off. Marved stepped up into the igl role yes, but he wasn't meant to be an igl. He did fine but unlike johnqt, he didnt have actual experience igling. Johnqt igled a team from t2 to almost t1, 2nd place. Arguing his acs is low is the worst take 'cause FNS is literally the best NA igl but his acs has always been low. IGLs' biggest contribution isnt fragging, it's the calling.
1) is johnqt anywhere near top igls? no one was talking about him like at the beginning of the year when it came to best igl. now all of a sudden, sen signs him, and hes the best? Theres a reason why fns was able to play on tier 1 even with that aim, im ngl fns aim is underrated. Also, you literally played with the best igl itw, obviously marved is going to pick up things.
sheesherz [#36]I agree with you simply for the fact that Shazam rates him well, so therefore he must be bad no?
LMAO YES HAHAHAHA
333triplethreat [#34]1) is johnqt anywhere near top igls? no one was talking about him like at the beginning of the year when it came to best igl. now all of a sudden, sen signs him, and hes the best? Theres a reason why fns was able to play on tier 1 even with that aim, im ngl fns aim is underrated. Also, you literally played with the best igl itw, obviously marved is going to pick up things.
clueless johnqt was rumored everywhere even last year
yukky [#28]yeah cause acs on a senti/controller player igl is a good measuring tool for a good player
dont be stupid, but can expect too much from ur flair
i didnt know that just because you are on senti/controller u cant aim. alfa and less must be blessed by god or something. honestly unlucky for johnqt, didnt u guys say he was like really good at duelists, like he had crazy aim or something, i honestly dont remember.
333triplethreat [#33]but the difference is they actually can igl. idk about boaster but his clutch rate is hella high. saadhak and fns are way above johnqt, theres no way ur comparing them. if johnqt was good, he would have been on tier one this year.
I'm not comparing them, u brought tier 1 pros like less and alfa into the conversation which is why I implied it's braindead to compare him with other successful pros by showing u how ur argument looked with the example of John vs. boaster/fns
And what else r sen fans supposed to do, not believe in them?? U trying to put down johnqt will play no effect in their fans, only their performance can affect them
Charism [#43]I'm not comparing them, u brought tier 1 pros like less and alfa into the conversation which is why I implied it's braindead to compare him with other successful pros by showing u how ur argument looked with the example of John vs. boaster/fns
And what else r sen fans supposed to do, not believe in them?? U trying to put down johnqt will play no effect in their fans, only their performance can affect them
i mean ig i have to compare him to tier 1 pros but they are all miles ahead of him.
also yeah, isnt that what everyone does? like stop coping, everyone shits talk pro players.
333triplethreat [#42]i didnt know that just because you are on senti/controller u cant aim. alfa and less must be blessed by god or something. honestly unlucky for johnqt, didnt u guys say he was like really good at duelists, like he had crazy aim or something, i honestly dont remember.
bros mad his banter club didn’t sign johnqt
cboomer [#45]bros mad his banter club didn’t sign johnqt
wow! what a great comeback!
its totally not like boostio is way better igl-wise and aim-wise!
333triplethreat [#44]i mean ig i have to compare him to tier 1 pros but they are all miles ahead of him.
also yeah, isnt that what everyone does? like stop coping, everyone shits talk pro players.
So u can compare them to t1 pros and others cannot, props to you and the person who gave u this logic
And there is no way u r making this about shit talking, I didn't even say anything remotely close to that🤣🤡
Charism [#48]So u can compare them to t1 pros and others cannot, props to you and the person who gave u this logic
And there is no way u r making this about shit talking, I didn't even say anything remotely close to that🤣🤡
when did i say that u cant compare? i just said its absurd that ur comparing johnqt with fns, boaster, and saadhak. its like in 2022 comparing laz and yay, no one does that.
U trying to put down johnqt
ur saying that Im bad talking johnqt when everyone bad talks literally every single pro.
AstroGalaxy [#51]100t fan talking when they lost to a sen with trolled roles and a mid igl KEKE
another braindead take. ur trying to cope by bringing in a completely irrelevant topic into this conversation.
Granite [#54]lul
would still stomp 100t new roster
lul, is that what sen wants to do? beat 100t and they r happy? nt kid
333triplethreat [#50]when did i say that u cant compare? i just said its absurd that ur comparing johnqt with fns, boaster, and saadhak. its like in 2022 comparing laz and yay, no one does that.
U trying to put down johnqt
ur saying that Im bad talking johnqt when everyone bad talks literally every single pro.
I never said that u r a bad person personally, shit talk all u want but have a reasonable logic behind that
333triplethreat [#53]another braindead take. ur trying to cope by bringing in a completely irrelevant topic into this conversation.
Johnqt> stellar
KanyeAsada [#32]You really are a bad take machine
I was just scrolling thru my texts
https://www.vlr.gg/169727/shaz-is-garbage-dont-worry-its-not-too-harsh
I predicted shazham being bad, but like im like that.
333triplethreat [#24]Acs, ascension it was like 170 average or at least below 180
180 for an igl is bad?? do you know whats saadhak´s acs??? (best fragging igl btw)
koromast [#61]180 for an igl is bad?? do you know whats saadhak´s acs??? (best fragging igl btw)
185,, not to mention this is tier one and CHAMPS
Aslso i dont think so, i think kingg might be but i dont really pay attention to the other leagues
333triplethreat [#62]185,, not to mention this is tier one and CHAMPS
Aslso i dont think so, i think kingg might be but i dont really pay attention to the other leagues
Kinggg's calling is one of the worst in the americas
GreyDaze [#63]Kinggg's calling is one of the worst in the americas
Disagree, they cant do anything when their jett sucks ass. Like u can have one of the best igls but if u cant entry, u can’t win
333triplethreat [#46]wow! what a great comeback!
its totally not like boostio is way better igl-wise and aim-wise!
Can't expect much from SEN fans. They are still overhyping Tenz when his performance throughout the year are mid at best. TenZ is lucky to have such a large loyal fanbase and cloud or not he will be dropped instantly. Watch how SEN fans are going to blame johnQT for tenz garbage performance or SEN loses in the following tournament, And yeah I have no idea why they signed johnQT . Pretty sure his an average IGL at best
Shawn23 [#7]while i dont think he wont be the top of the top, hes still a upgrade over dephh and marved ( in terms of IGLing ) and everyone gets to play on there comfort role, and plus the raw aim and potential that trhis team has a mid IGL could change this team in the right direction, feels like maybe a 2022 prx but upgraded
i dont understand the hype around marved as an igl. sentinels was his first team as an igl. johnqt and even depphh have more experience, especially when it comes to creating game preparation and strategies
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#65]Can't expect much from SEN fans. They are still overhyping Tenz when his performance throughout the year are mid at best. TenZ is lucky to have such a large loyal fanbase and cloud or not he will be dropped instantly. Watch how SEN fans are going to blame johnQT for tenz garbage performance or SEN loses in the following tournament, And yeah I have no idea why they signed johnQT . Pretty sure his an average IGL at best
Based, altho i honestly thought he had a rough year-physically and mentally
espeon [#67]100t flair
Yeah so if i change to sen, what happens?? Ur gonna say flair😂😂 ur actually braindead for saying “flair”
333triplethreat [#69]Yeah so if i change to sen, what happens?? Ur gonna say flair😂😂 ur actually braindead for saying “flair”
flair
333triplethreat [#64]Disagree, they cant do anything when their jett sucks ass. Like u can have one of the best igls but if u cant entry, u can’t win
retard take + 1 thieve isn’t signing boostio
cboomer [#2]saving slot to shame you later for being low iq
JohnQT is literally known for being mechanically gifted, he was one of the better t2 duelists before being an igl, LMFAO and like, he's not a great caller imo but his control on the team is there, afaik Kaplan made him an igl so the chemistry is there, he's literally the complete opposite of an IGL like dephh who cant call from senti, frag or have good midrounds
bet you never heard of him before he was rumored to be joining sentials
333triplethreat [#24]Acs, ascension it was like 170 average or at least below 180
Idk if you've ever played that role yourself cus it is pretty hard to find a guy to shoot at on these 2 roles (since you're not always taking the duels, you're mainly just applying pressure) when you're playing ppl at your level. The reason why Alfa and Less had great success on the role is bc their team also set them up for lurk plays and allat.
cboomer [#72]retard take + 1 thieve isn’t signing boostio
Another person who cant make a comeback that makes sense
fku [#73]bet you never heard of him before he was rumored to be joining sentials
Lmao..? Idk where u were but i was watching since first strike
Charism [#56]I never said that u r a bad person personally, shit talk all u want but have a reasonable logic behind that
Bruh i said bad talking not personally. Also i literally backed up what im saying with numbers and fax
condsicc [#74]Idk if you've ever played that role yourself cus it is pretty hard to find a guy to shoot at on these 2 roles (since you're not always taking the duels, you're mainly just applying pressure) when you're playing ppl at your level. The reason why Alfa and Less had great success on the role is bc their team also set them up for lurk plays and allat.
Sure, but they also have one of the best aim in the world
333triplethreat [#34]1) is johnqt anywhere near top igls? no one was talking about him like at the beginning of the year when it came to best igl. now all of a sudden, sen signs him, and hes the best? Theres a reason why fns was able to play on tier 1 even with that aim, im ngl fns aim is underrated. Also, you literally played with the best igl itw, obviously marved is going to pick up things.
"Also, you literally played with the best igl itw, obviously marved is going to pick up things" by that logic crashies and vic and yay should all be able to igl. no one is saying he is the best, but only idiots say he's a downgrade in terms of igling comared to marved. I would 100% agree that ignoring the igl part is Marved a better player.
cboomer [#72]retard take + 1 thieve isn’t signing boostio
Sendogshitobesefanbasenels gonna spend bank but still gonna be a failure 🥷🥷🥷🥷💲💲🤢🤢💕🐖
cboomer [#19]less averages far more on viper than on kj moron
ur just low iq this hurts so bad
he literally plays a different role he ANCHORS less and alfa LURK
U have high IQ because u play LGBT game a
333triplethreat [#24]Acs, ascension it was like 170 average or at least below 180
ACS is very biased toward first bloods, which wasn't his job on M80 but you can see he had a positive rating in ascension and had an 81% KAST in the grand finals against the guard, which is a really big number and is a better measure of overall performance than acs
GhostKing44 [#80]"Also, you literally played with the best igl itw, obviously marved is going to pick up things" by that logic crashies and vic and yay should all be able to igl. no one is saying he is the best, but only idiots say he's a downgrade in terms of igling comared to marved. I would 100% agree that ignoring the igl part is Marved a better player.
I said they were similar, but yeah johnqt is better but not by a lot
1mBor3d [#83]ACS is very biased toward first bloods, which wasn't his job on M80 but you can see he had a positive rating in ascension and had an 81% KAST in the grand finals against the guard, which is a really big number and is a better measure of overall performance than acs
just because u have a positive rating, doesnt mean u r good.
If a player gets:
- a kill or
- an assist or
- survives or
- dies and get traded within 5 seconds
every round, his KAST will be 100%
idk this seems wrong but yeah KAST also isnt the best
ishowmeat [#86]stellar was ur igl 😂😂😂
Another braindead sen fan talkin about something irrelevant because he knows im speaking fax.
333triplethreat [#88]Another braindead sen fan talkin about something irrelevant because he knows im speaking fax.
stellar 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yistyy [#89]They were beating paper rex and eg in scrims, I'm pretty sure johnqt was a massive W for sen
was optic ever good at scrims? what about 100t in 2022 lcq. ALso in 2023 lcq, 100t won every single game with yoru on bind and sentinels barely or never scrimmed yoru on bind which shows that clearly scrims dont mean anything.
333triplethreat [#64]Disagree, they cant do anything when their jett sucks ass. Like u can have one of the best igls but if u cant entry, u can’t win
what happened when king had a champion ship level jett and versed Johnqt unlucky with the horrible take
TheAceGamer30 [#97]How can you say that he’s actually putting the work for sen and is doing insane for sen I think ur baiting
the post is 5 months old brotha
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