Ardiis is gone and yay is coming back .
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Olofboost [#9]yay couldn't carry worst Ascension team
Can't carry 4 garbage players with no igl by yourself
iammika1999 [#10]When your team is shit, always blame the EU player. Bro was getting so much info for them, but the team couldn't stop the executes, what can he even do
this isnt about NA or EU he is literally holding them back
iammika1999 [#10]When your team is shit, always blame the EU player. Bro was getting so much info for them, but the team couldn't stop the executes, what can he even do
So by your logic you're saying CGRS is a good player as well right as he always "get much info"
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#13]Can't carry 4 garbage players with no igl by yourself
No, he's just overrated. Imagine averaging 220 ACS playing against the worst teams in NA Ascension. If yay was as good as you claim him to be, he would get 250 at least.
Olofboost [#17]No, he's just overrated. Imagine averaging 220 ACS playing against the worst teams in NA Ascension. If yay was as good as you claim him to be, he would get 250 at least.
Lmao, so by your logic Leo is also an overrated player right ? Because he mostly have low kda in Guild . There is difference between you performing bad in a Team that have good players and IGL than a Team with NO IGL nor "Good" as most of them are at best decent players.
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#18]Lmao, so by your logic Leo is also an overrated player right ? Because he mostly have low kda in Guild . There is difference between you performing bad in a Team that have good players and IGL than a Team with NO IGL nor "Good" as most of them are at best decent players.
Leo plays against the best of the best in tier1 EMEA League, has superstars in Fnatic who carry so he doesn't have to.
yay plays in Ascension, which is tier2. In the bottom of it.
Olofboost [#21]Leo plays against the best of the best in tier1 EMEA League, has superstars in Fnatic who carry so he doesn't have to.
yay plays in Ascension, which is tier2. In the bottom of it.
Doesn't matter , if he's a good player regardless of the team he is playing against he should have perform well because by your logic a "GOOD player" should carry a team regardless of any circumstances
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#16]So by your logic you're saying CGRS is a good player as well right as he always "get much info"
Bro they were stacking 4 on B and still lost multiple rounds lmao, what even is this argument
bdog_biggest_fan [#4]need yay back tbh kick his ass
He's never coming back because Masters is not his level anymore
iammika1999 [#24]Bro they were stacking 4 on B and still lost multiple rounds lmao, what even is this argument
Nice try changing the subject
hungeryman [#3]That would be a downgrade🗿
Fns can work his magic on yay again, and if they really thinking about playing chamber, then yay clears
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#23]Doesn't matter , if he's a good player regardless of the team he is playing against he should have perform well because by your logic a "GOOD player" should carry a team regardless of any circumstances
Leo is support in Fnatic, yay is supposed to be a star in Disguised. Leo plays against top-tier teams, yay plays against tier2 NA bums. See the difference?
Olofboost [#21]Leo plays against the best of the best in tier1 EMEA League, has superstars in Fnatic who carry so he doesn't have to.
yay plays in Ascension, which is tier2. In the bottom of it.
bro look at yays number before chamber. He was the best jett in the world putting same or better numbers with jett than with chamber
Olofboost [#29]Leo is support in Fnatic, yay is supposed to be a star in Disguised. Leo plays against top-tier teams, yay plays against tier2 NA bums. See the difference?
Maybe improve your reading comprehension as you're clearly claiming that "A good player" should carry a team regardless of any circumstance. I don't care if Leo is a support player or he's playing against a good team because by your logic he should still carry them as he is a "good player"
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#23]Doesn't matter , if he's a good player regardless of the team he is playing against he should have perform well because by your logic a "GOOD player" should carry a team regardless of any circumstances
he's already performing well and he doesnt even play duelist bro why you comparing leo and yay
benmaimoon [#35]he's already performing well and he doesnt even play duelist bro why you comparing leo and yay
Read properly before replying. No one is comparing Leo with Yay
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#13]Can't carry 4 garbage players with no igl by yourself
He was straight up losing 1v1s against t2 jetts lmao. Yay is trash currently. If they remove ardiis for Yay it'd be an extreme downgrade
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#34]Maybe improve your reading comprehension as you're clearly claiming that "A good player" should carry a team regardless of any circumstance. I don't care if Leo is a support player or he's playing against a good team because by your logic he should still carry them as he is a "good player"
A star (yay) is supposed to carry. A support (Leo) is not supposed to.
I never said every good player should carry. But if you play chamber and jett, you must be on top of the scoreboard for most of the time.
Olofboost [#38]A star (yay) is supposed to carry. A support (Leo) is not supposed to.
I never said every good player should carry. But if you play chamber and jett, you must be on top of the scoreboard for most of the time.
A "Star player" is a good player . You can't be garbage and be counted as a "Star player"
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#16]So by your logic you're saying CGRS is a good player as well right as he always "get much info"
CGRS is in the lowerbracket final of a Masters event.
Of fucking course he is a good player.
fucking vlr chatters man.
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#39]A "Star player" is a good player . You can't be garbage and be counted as a "Star player"
A star player is someone who plays chamber and jett, in this situation.
GhostNexus [#37]He was straight up losing 1v1s against t2 jetts lmao. Yay is trash currently. If they remove ardiis for Yay it'd be an extreme downgrade
Bro this DSG team was so bad. In a team lead by Fns he could perform the same level as he was in last year
Olofboost [#42]A star player is someone who plays chamber and jett, in this situation.
So Nats, Chronicle and alfjaer are not star players right as they are support players
SigmaMale [#32]Why are we blaming him? They never hit his site and he had to save all the time
Bro have you seen the games that he played using jett as well, dude can't hit his shots most of the time
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#44]So Nats, Chronicle and alfjaer are not star players right as they are support players
Yes, they are. But they manage to perform especially well on their roles, so you can say they're amazing supports.
Olofboost [#46]Yes, they are. But they manage to perform especially well on their roles, so you can say they're amazing supports.
But you said "A star (yay) is supposed to carry. A SUPPORT (Leo) is not supposed to." so you're contradicting yourself ? And so my point about LEO was also correct right ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Stop embarrassing yourself
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#36]Read properly before replying. No one is comparing Leo with Yay
you're the one who should read properly. there is difference between leo and yay. yay is a superstar, he has to carry the team with frags but leo not. you definitely dont understand what olof said
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#47]But you said "A star (yay) is supposed to carry. A SUPPORT (Leo) is not supposed to." so you're contradicting yourself ? And so my point about LEO was also correct right ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Stop embarrassing yourself
Where's contradiction?
It's amazing if support carries. But even if he doesn't, it's no big deal. I never said support shouldn't carry, just that they're not obliged to.
Olofboost [#49]Where's contradiction?
It's amazing if support carries. But even if he doesn't, it's no big deal. I never said support shouldn't carry, just that they're not obliged to.
just give up bro this blud dont want to understand
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#45]Bro have you seen the games that he played using jett as well, dude can't hit his shots most of the time
From what I saw in the last two games he had the most impactful frags. And I clearly remember all these threads for him. Stating how great he was.
Olofboost [#49]Where's contradiction?
It's amazing if support carries. But even if he doesn't, it's no big deal. I never said support shouldn't carry, just that they're not obliged to.
Bro you said "Leo is support player" so he can't be counted as a star player as you replied to my comment by saying ""A star (yay) is supposed to carry. A SUPPORT (Leo) is not supposed to." And now you're saying Nats, chronicle and alfjaer can also be counted as a star player as "they perform well on their roles" . So why are you against my argument that Leo should carry his team regardless of his role and who is he matching up with as now he's a "Star" player in fnatic. ? Not to mention your whole argument is about How a "Star" player should be able to carry a team regardless of the conditions. So again to repeat by YOUR LOGIC LEO SHOULD BE CARRYING GUILD REGARDLESS OF HIS ROLE NOR MATCH UP AS A "STAR PLAYER" AS YOU STATED SHOULD CARRY A TEAM REGARDLESS OF THE CONDITIONS" hope this ease your time reading
Swxtch [#2]For real had the least impactfull kills I've ever seen
he cant hit an AWP shot to save his life.
BNR [#51]did we know that ardiis could?
trust me bro, yay wont kj fr, he got booted out of c9 cuz he isnt flexible
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#53]Bro you said "Leo is support player" so he can't be counted as a star player as you replied to my comment by saying ""A star (yay) is supposed to carry. A SUPPORT (Leo) is not supposed to." And now you're saying Nats, chronicle and alfjaer can also be counted as a star player as "they perform well on their roles" . So why are you against my argument that Leo should carry his team regardless of his role and who is he matching up with as now he's a "Star" player in fnatic. ? Not to mention your whole argument is about How a "Star" player should be able to carry a team regardless of the conditions. So again to repeat by YOUR LOGIC LEO SHOULD BE CARRYING GUILD REGARDLESS OF HIS ROLE NOR MATCH UP AS A "STAR PLAYER" AS YOU STATED SHOULD CARRY A TEAM REGARDLESS OF THE CONDITIONS" hope this ease your time reading
Nats, Chronicle, Alfajer aren't stars. Derke and Sayf are.
Leo isn't a star either. It's great when he carries, but it's not his responsibility to carry, that's Derke's responsibility.
benmaimoon [#48]you're the one who should read properly. there is difference between leo and yay. yay is a superstar, he has to carry the team with frags but leo not. you definitely dont understand what olof said
Lmao maybe try reading my sentence instead of being a classic tiktok brainrot user who can't read few sentences. I'm not comparing YAY with LEO , I'm providing a COUNTER EXAMPLE to that guy who is claiming that " A STAR PLAYER SHOULD CARRY A TEAM REGARDLESS OF THE CONDITIONS" .
Olofboost [#56]Nats, Chronicle, Alfajer aren't stars. Derke and Sayf are.
Leo isn't a star either. It's great when he carries, but it's not his responsibility to carry, that's Derke's responsibility.
You're contradicting again , bro you literally just say that "Yes, they are." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 aight I ain't replying anymore. You're literally moving goal posts to fit your argument
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#58]Lmao maybe try reading my sentence instead of being a classic tiktok brainrot user who can't read few sentences. I'm not comparing YAY with LEO , I'm providing a COUNTER EXAMPLE to that guy who is claiming that " A STAR PLAYER SHOULD CARRY A TEAM REGARDLESS OF THE CONDITIONS" .
Where's that counter example?
Leo isn't a duelist
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#60]You're contradicting again , bro you literally just say that "Yes, they are." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 aight I ain't replying anymore. You're literally moving goal posts to fit your argument
It''s so simple to understand everything I said, if only you had basic logic skills.
There's no contradiction in my words, none at all. I hope I'm not talking to someone below 100 iq.
Olofboost [#61]Where's that counter example?
Leo isn't a duelist
"A star (yay) is supposed to carry. A support (Leo) is not supposed to." now A "Star" player should be a duelist 😂 Average vlr.gg user ability to make a comprehensible argument
Olofboost [#57]No, he couldn't, that's just cope
ofc bro you know everything. But i see you saw the future last week with this opinion: T1 and EG are garbage compared to NAVI and FUT respectively. Nt buddy
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#63]"A star (yay) is supposed to carry. A support (Leo) is not supposed to." now A "Star" player should be a duelist 😂 Average vlr.gg user ability to make a comprehensible argument
A star is a duelist. Especially in tier2 Disguised. If duelist doesn't frag out, it's a bad team. Doesn't mean everybody else shouldn't frag out, they can too.
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#63]"A star (yay) is supposed to carry. A support (Leo) is not supposed to." now A "Star" player should be a duelist 😂 Average vlr.gg user ability to make a comprehensible argument
you're such a braindead. i wont try anymore
since_beta [#55]trust me bro, yay wont kj fr, he got booted out of c9 cuz he isnt flexible
he got booted out of c9 cause of his huge salary request
SigmaMale [#32]Why are we blaming him? They never hit his site and he had to save all the time
Easier to blame the EU guy
BNR [#64]ofc bro you know everything. But i see you saw the future last week with this opinion: T1 and EG are garbage compared to NAVI and FUT respectively. Nt buddy
Me thinking current yay isn't good enough for Masters is the popular opinion. It's not like I'm minority here.
since_beta [#55]trust me bro, yay wont kj fr, he got booted out of c9 cuz he isnt flexible
he got booted bcs of his salary but i agree he isnt flexible yet :)
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#71]Can't give a damn about him being from EMEA . Shit is shit
Better tournament than crashies
Typer [#20]Chamber isn't sentinel dude and he is playing like sentinel
Please tell me you're baiting
Typer [#20]Chamber isn't sentinel dude and he is playing like sentinel
ignore the retards, chamber is not a sentinel and saadhak proved it in America playoffs where he popped the fuck off with his aggressive TPs, especially during retakes. Anyone who thinks chamber is a sentinel is a salty mf chamber main who cant play the broken agent anymore just like the heros they support.
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#76]Still doesn't change the fact that he's bad
Derke has lowers stats than Leo,alfajer and chronicle
unknown_trash [#27]Fns can work his magic on yay again, and if they really thinking about playing chamber, then yay clears
no tp no kill
crashhacker1 [#77]ignore the retards, chamber is not a sentinel and saadhak proved it in America playoffs where he popped the fuck off with his aggressive TPs, especially during retakes. Anyone who thinks chamber is a sentinel is a salty mf chamber main who cant play the broken agent anymore just like the heros they support.
You’re really embarrassing yourself here kid
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#13]Can't carry 4 garbage players with no igl by yourself
y0y is a finished chamber abuser let it go bro
crashhacker1 [#77]ignore the retards, chamber is not a sentinel and saadhak proved it in America playoffs where he popped the fuck off with his aggressive TPs, especially during retakes. Anyone who thinks chamber is a sentinel is a salty mf chamber main who cant play the broken agent anymore just like the heros they support.
Yeah bind got some good spots to play chamber agro but he decided to play passive. These retards doesn't know shit
honestly yay didn''t have a solid igl throughout t2, not only that switching exalt and steel in and out would also switch playstyles affecting team play a ton, which is also a reason he couldn't frag out, there are examples where he did show up for his team without a solid performance on ascent against SR and TTR. Although his average acs wasn't crazy during t2 he had amazing performances during t1 due to FNS's world-class igl'ing. A star player doesn't have to be a duelist by default, a star player is a player that can carry more then just their weight during a match, fragging out for the team when they need him most, so for example as Voop said, Leo does show up whenever his team needs him. For example, in the final round of EG against Fnatic today on split, ethan was about to clutch by denying the bomb plant, but then he stayed calm and got the 2k, this is a solid star player.
Olofboost [#66]A star is a duelist. Especially in tier2 Disguised. If duelist doesn't frag out, it's a bad team. Doesn't mean everybody else shouldn't frag out, they can too.
honestly yay didn''t have a solid igl throughout t2, not only that switching exalt and steel in and out would also switch playstyles affecting team play a ton, which is also a reason he couldn't frag out, there are examples where he did show up for his team without a solid performance on ascent against SR and TTR. Although his average acs wasn't crazy during t2 he had amazing performances during t1 due to FNS's world-class igl'ing. A star player doesn't have to be a duelist by default, a star player is a player that can carry more then just their weight during a match, fragging out for the team when they need him most, so for example as Voop said, Leo does show up whenever his team needs him. For example, in the final round of EG against Fnatic today on split, ethan was about to clutch by denying the bomb plant, but then he stayed calm and got the 2k, this is a solid star player.
Typer [#82]Yeah bind got some good spots to play chamber agro but he decided to play passive. These retards doesn't know shit
He was literally pushing out of showers every round on defense. What is passive about that?
RainRaker [#84]honestly yay didn''t have a solid igl throughout t2, not only that switching exalt and steel in and out would also switch playstyles affecting team play a ton, which is also a reason he couldn't frag out, there are examples where he did show up for his team without a solid performance on ascent against SR and TTR. Although his average acs wasn't crazy during t2 he had amazing performances during t1 due to FNS's world-class igl'ing. A star player doesn't have to be a duelist by default, a star player is a player that can carry more then just their weight during a match, fragging out for the team when they need him most, so for example as Voop said, Leo does show up whenever his team needs him. For example, in the final round of EG against Fnatic today on split, ethan was about to clutch by denying the bomb plant, but then he stayed calm and got the 2k, this is a solid star player.
yay is not flexible and not that good on jett/chamber anymore. There's no reason for him to be on a Masters-level team, taking someone else's place.
ckzera [#5]the team prob wanna keep ardiis more fun guy to be around, yay has no personality
Yeah personality definitely wins games. They should get tarik
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#60]You're contradicting again , bro you literally just say that "Yes, they are." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 aight I ain't replying anymore. You're literally moving goal posts to fit your argument
Ur so retarded its actually unfunny now
renzdzn [#87]Yeah personality definitely wins games. They should get tarik
personality helps other players perform better and enjoy playing, plus ardiis doesn't even play bad yall just focus on hating him, im sure yay would be playing the same if he joined the team then yall would hate on him.
Olofboost [#86]yay is not flexible and not that good on jett/chamber anymore. There's no reason for him to be on a Masters-level team, taking someone else's place.
if that's the case why is ardis's unstable ass in NRG, if yay was on NRG fns could possibly enable him
ckzera [#93]personality helps other players perform better and enjoy playing, plus ardiis doesn't even play bad yall just focus on hating him, im sure yay would be playing the same if he joined the team then yall would hate on him.
Vouch, look at zellsis for example, xeppa and leaf never looked this good before
ckzera [#93]personality helps other players perform better and enjoy playing, plus ardiis doesn't even play bad yall just focus on hating him, im sure yay would be playing the same if he joined the team then yall would hate on him.
That's fair but its weird how you rated players based on personality when yay dominated a whole year with 'no personality'. Yes personality compliments synergy but that's just it. I don't even hate ardiis or want him replaced.
renzdzn [#99]That's fair but its weird how you rated players based on personality when yay dominated a whole year with 'no personality'. Yes personality compliments synergy but that's just it. I don't even hate ardiis or want him replaced.
yeah but that was yay on chamber, ardiis performed really well aswell on chamber, but they had built their playstyle around that and now they can't play jett at a high level anymore either, also ardiis plays kj and shit, yay doesn't, yay would just fuck roles issues up more
ckzera [#102]yeah but that was yay on chamber, ardiis performed really well aswell on chamber, but they had built their playstyle around that and now they can't play jett at a high level anymore either, also ardiis plays kj and shit, yay doesn't, yay would just fuck roles issues up more
Like I said I don't care about ardiis nor c9
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