smoke agents have the highest skill ceiling

and then duelists

def not. especially in pro play. they just throw their smoke setup that they practiced a million times

no

disagree on the fact that you can play smokes at any level decently because it’s mostly team util commed by teammates/default setups. Duelist/Ini is more on the fly and harder to be able to make the correct reads and timings.

It's gonna be initiator

sentinel is harder imo

initiator and duelist are definitely the hardest

Duelist hardest IMO because most skill demanding abilities and you need to take more duels compared to others so position and ability usage really important and on the fly.

here my thinking: Smoke roles i think is the hardest to play, but the easiest to master. most smokes player in the world often are the igl of the team (pro play anyway). Fragging with a smoke agent is tough, if your game has a top-frag omen, you are most likely losing. However, in team-play, it's a lot easier to play because of timings, comms, placement of smokes have been practiced tons of times

I would argue initiators have the highest skill ceiling.
but thats my opinion.

I'm surprised by how many people here are arguing that duelist is way harder. 9 times out of 10 you only have to worry about using your own utility, movement, etc. Meanwhile on smokes you've got to be providing cover for like half the team, and if you don't also win out duels when they come to you, you'll get endlessly shit on. example: FNS

in pro play, no. unless you're igl-ing, you just do what your igl tells you to do with the occasional improvisation (say a clutch round)

in ranked, possibly. if pro play is 75% set play and 25% improv, ranked is 25% set play and 75% improv. at that point you're depended upon to throw your util to parts of the map you're not in (especially if you play someone like astra), so you end up having little util for yourself to survive. not to mention having to read the map and your opponent if your team isn't comming any noise or util from the other team.

i agree with what CorpL said in #9 -- smokes is the hardest to play the lower in rank you go, but as you go further up the ranks and start looking at team play and true mastery, it gets easier

I think harbor viper have great skill ceilings but the other agents just do not work the same way.

The highest skill ceiling would be Senti Players imo,
The way boostio has been playing on killjoy fragging like a fucking duelist? I think he’s the one to lookout for.

Maybe a viper and a harbor have high skill ceiling.

Nah Yoru is harder

Initiator > Raze/neon > wall controllers > smokes controllers > sentinel > jett

Yoru highest skill ceiling fs

smoke orb agents have a relatively low skill floor, having a player flex onto omen or something for a few maps isn't the end of the world, and brim is legit easy to play, just press on your little ipad and learn some molly lineups and ur good

wall smoke agents are a lot harder just because of how their utility works, viper players need to know more lineups and learn how to play around their utility timings, while harbor walls are super hard to effectively set up without leaving tiny gaps ppl could be in.