Optc was na superteam but

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Zellsis better than victor

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trent better than crashies what is yor point?

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Nice joke

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get off the smoke blud

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Crashies actually better than trent so much

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how do people hold this take still. trent went to 1 international and did terribly. how many lans did crashies go to and farm? are we just saying trend > crashies because of T2 NA stats? fantastic logic.

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https://www.vlr.gg/85524/the-guard-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-ubqf/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/77792/optic-gaming-vs-the-guard-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers-gf/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/77791/optic-gaming-vs-the-guard-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers-ubf/?game=all&tab=performance

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They then proceed to beat them at the LAN and go on to win the entire thing 💀

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ah yes, the cherry-picked 1v1 argument. So tell me, should tryouts be a bunch of 1v1s to see who can aim better

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saadhak better than fns what is your point?

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Mechanically not strategically

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strategically aswell

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You're smoking crack

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One is a champion just saying lol

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Bro what?? You realize OPTIC won a masters right?

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Kiles is a champion...

Whats your point ?

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Dude said "one is a champion" what's his point

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Comparing two igls and one of the them is a fucking world champion and not a master's winner.. think about the amount of anti strat that was planned and mid round calling across the series during the champions finals. He literally brought the team to finals to this year's lock in with 2 new inexperienced pros. If you can't understand this basic shit stop replying also Shahz won a masters do you guys think Shahz is on par fns ?

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This is such a terrible take. Lock-in was a mickey mouse tourney and FNS shits on loud. Talon, Team Secret, and KC did relatively well at lock-in and are now getting absolutely shit on. Lock-in means nothing

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Bruh comfortably leaving out the champions take doesn't mean whatever you are saying is right lol

continue thread →

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barely even mechanically. Bro goes double negative on raze all the time

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FNS was demoralized twice by Saadhak at Champions

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the title said NA bro

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chaadhak is NA?

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Rn? Yes. When victor was on optic? NEVER. Not even close, victor was the best support kay/o/skye in the game for like an year straight

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i would argue victor is feeling it more rn than in the past, but I agree even in the past he had more impact than zellsis. hot take but zellsis kinda looked mid always to me.

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Zekken better then victor what ur point?

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Oxy is better than Yay what is your point?

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oxy better than the plethora of duelist jett one tricks in franchise lets be real..

his raze is nasty

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that happens to be his only good agent. he sucks at jett lmao. better to be a good jett than a good raze

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crazy shit take

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It’s sad because i love zellsis but he’ll just get shit on in this thread because BackoxyXD said so

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okay thats too far

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Victor and -31 FNS are the reasons why OpTic lost in multiple Semis/Finals.
Just facts.

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3 marved + crashies +yay wins champs 22 tbh

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So true

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ZELLSIS? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO . ZELLSIS IS GARBAGE

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name check

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WWWWWW

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Zellsis has one of the lowest dollar values on draft kings.

This week.

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leaf>>>>victor. Leaf is very consistent and can literally play every role.