Riot fired head dev for ranked

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childegamer

Riot EvrMoar is NO MORE! The recent emergence of Pro City (and other hubs), and the general hellish state of ranked (90% of games lack any semblance of competitive integrity), must have pushed Riot to remove him from his position after 3 years of failure. By the way, 'premier mode' will do NOTHING to solve ranked -- it's not for individuals, its for 5-stacks only.

The farewell tweet.

This gives me hope. Let's Riot actually put someone competent in this position and don't hire another CoD player with 0 understanding of how to create a competitive tac fps ecosystem.

REJOICE MY FRIENDS, REJOICE! EVRMOAR IS NO MORE! I REPEAT, NO MORE EVRMOAR!

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Damn that one dude (was it you) predicted it correct

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based

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I refuse to believe this 1 guy was the entire problem

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He bears much of the responsibility. He did not advocate for account verification, increased admin presence, or actual rank resets (mmr reset not just shiny image on screen). That's just some of the list.

In general, esports is a new industry and nepotism tends to be at play in many of these hires. He had 0 experience designing a tac fps competitive system, and his corporate managers have 0 understanding of the actual dynamics of the game (most are plat at most, and even half of radiants aren't competent enough to be able to design a proper ranked system).

This is a win for the community. We voiced our frustration, and Rito finally acted after years of inaction. We must continue to demand more. We must not wait for the pros (the least likely to demand change because they want to suck up to rito) to voice our collective discontent.

REJOICE I SAY! REJOICE! EVRMOAR IS NO MORE! EVRMOAR IS NO MOREEEEEE!

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every solution to the problems you mentioned in the first sentence, will kill the game. there's a reason, CS is still fresh and keeps hitting 1M viewers consistently, it doesnt micro control people's ranked experiences. Smurfing isnt as big of an issue that normal players make it out to be. Crypto betting isnt as big as the insecure streamers make it out to be. The "we" here is a guy on skill issue who is unable to accept his real rank and lashing out at the real world, you dont truly understand why valorant has been able to compete with CS on twitch or in viewers/players. He did, there's a reason he didnt implement them, it will kill the virality of the game like it did for MW/Halo/OW1.

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Another Rito fan?

CSGO has over 20 million users on Faceit in Europe alone. ALL serious players in CSGO, equivalent to Ascendant and above in Valorant (even though most dont understand the game until far higher ELO), EXCLUSIVELY play on Faceit, and everyone level 10 or above tries to play in hubs (ECL or Mythic). Valorant Ranked is totally unmoderated, it uses inefficient algorithms to police behavior. The problem ISNT smurfing: it's griefing, throwing, toxicity, hidden mmr, and a host of other issues. Players who never tasted level 10 on Faceit in CSGO have no idea of anything like FPL, ECL, or Mythic. These are highly regulated competitions, like that of an intermural league in other sports, totally unlike the ranked experience in CSGO or Valorant. Faceit itself does not have as much support, its about these independent hubs, which ALL pros, tier1-4, play in exclusively for CSGO. Most Valorant players don't come from CSGO and have no idea how much further developed those 3rd party systems are compared to every other esport. If they do come from CSGO, they may have a passing familiarity with Faceit, but no idea about FPL, ECL, or Mythic.

I hate to say it bro, I have 8 radiant gun buddies. Ive duo'd with your favorite streamers. I'm not 'unable to accept my real rank', I think rank is worthless in its current state. I am ashamed to equip my radiant gun buddies because how worthelss ranked is.

Faceit did not KILL CSGO, it made it stronger, far stronger. Having a robust competitive environment for pros AND casuals makes for fans wanting to watch more, be more involved in the game, learn and improve further. In India, there was no FPL, no ECL, no Mythic -- so even if you had played csgo, you would have no idea of what competitive experience CAN look like.

FPL, ECL, Mythic dont give gun buddies, they give CASH that can sustain new and benched talent alike. It infuses the community with cash, it is VITAL and totally missing in this game. But cash aside, they have admins to moderate, which is the biggest thing Riot doesn't have. Any excuse that Riot 'cant' moderate the game and has to rely on algorithms because 'there's to many players' is circular logic: there's too many players on alts, and they want those high numbers to show to sponsors, even tho AT LEAST half of the 22 million 'active monthly users' are alt accounts. Riot can at least offer a subscription service that guarantees minimum account levels and game moderation (AS FACEIT, FPL, ECL, AND MYTHIC DO).

Wake up, get Riot's boot out of your mouth, think for yourself.

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rito? I dont care about that money hoarding company. Also, remind me again why I care about top 1% or 0.1% if I want to improve the game's popularity and health in the FPS scene. That part alone dismantles your first 2 paragraphs. If you're doing well in ranked (your 8 radiant gun buddies) you have "completed" the game, the next level in your play should be a team and going pro in various tiers of valorant. Not complaining about ranked. So ignoring your first 2 paragraphs, lets talk about it faceit. Have you played in faceit above silver? have you noticed the queue times and adding to those queue times, there are still smurfs/griefers. I can guarantee you 50% of the "normal" games have smurfs/griefers even in faceit. Now if you're talking about top 1% in CSGO, then again your argument and debate becomes moot.

you want to change the whole game for majority of the people because a few at the top are suffering and having a mid-life crisis phenomenon. The only one who's under anyone's boot is you and your little group of friends at the top struggling to cope that you're not good for pro level and dont want to sweat after you hit radiant. I'm thinking about majority of the people, the normal people. I dont care about you, mate. Infusing with cash? do you know the age of valorant compared to CS? at this point in development, CS was struggling to even hold tourneys let alone worldwide LANs and competing with a 10 year old game on official tourneys. Playing valo even in local LANs has a lot of money now compared to CS.

Get over your mid-life crisis and tell your insecure streamers to accept that they're not as good as they think. stop changing the whole game because you cant go pro.

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I think you might not understand English well. So, let me be clear: Riot can afford to bring more competitive integrity to ranked by having admins instead of relying on algorithms; adding account verification and stricter ranked requirements so I can't make an immortal account every two weeks if I want to. Nothing youre writing is addressing what I'm saying, it's like youre Modi talking to himself and a bunch of mindless sheep waving flags. ALL pros and content creators complain about state of ranked, so it's not my little circle. You just live in a non-region where ranked is too small and worthless to be of concern.

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"has no solutions for the players who are not top 1%"

lies about my profile to diminish my image because of the point above

I never argued about moderation in my whole post, I just said in my original post that your solutions to change the game will kill it and pointed out why CSGO and faceit are seperate because if they're merged, the game dies. They're smart. They also dont cater to the top 1% and neither should valorant. Just because your little circle of insecure streamers are unable to perform at the top, dont go suggesting to change the whole game for others. Obviously insecure fucks like you and your streamer friends have people/kids watching you so they believe that the game is as bad as they're making out to be through confirmation bias.

rito is useless for me in other ways with replay system, I would say that's more important for them to focus on than trying to soothe your egos. cheers.

edit: for reference, the original post of the reply before it was edited was "faceit has 20 M users, why do you think valo cant be moderated? also you bash female casters and a slime so I dont want to reason with you"

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i aint readin allat 😹😹😹🍆🍆🍆

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;)

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The golden age of arcade video games was heralded by Taito's Space Invaders in 1978, which popularized the use of a persistent high score for all players. Several video games in the next several years followed suit, adding other means of tracking high scores such with high score tables that included the players' initials in games like Asteroids in 1979. High score-chasing became a popular activity and a means of competition.[17] The Space Invaders Championship held by Atari in 1980 was the earliest large scale video game competition, attracting more than 10,000 participants across the United States, establishing competitive gaming as a mainstream hobby.[18] It was won by Rebecca Heineman.[19] Walter Day, owner of an arcade in Iowa, had taken it upon himself to travel across the United States to record the high scores on various games in 1980, and on his return, founded Twin Galaxies, a high score record-keeping organization.[20] The organization went on to help promote video games and publicize its records through publications such as the Guinness Book of World Records, and in 1983 it created the U.S. National Video Game Team. The team was involved in competitions, such as running the Video Game Masters Tournament for Guinness World Records[21][22] and sponsoring the North American Video Game Challenge tournament.[23] A multicity tour in 1983, the "Electronic Circus", was used to feature these players in live challenges before audiences, and draw more people to video games.[17] These video game players and tournaments were featured in well-circulated newspapers and popular magazines including Life and Time and became minor celebrities at the time, such as Billy Mitchell.[24][25] Besides establishing the competitive nature of games, these types of promotional events all formed the nature of the marketing and promotion that formed the basis of modern esports.[17]

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childegamer

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you’re not wrong! babyj should fix this tho

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dudes really writing essays to each other 💀

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childegamer

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I am a Riot chatbot, not-so-advanced AI but still more advanced than crashhacker1 (aka incell4ever)

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Dude just deal with it that you lost this argument, and I'm pretty sure everyone agrees that you're just a guy not willing to accept your rank. Unlike you, I actually accept it and then improve from it. So stop crying like a baby and go play rank.

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childegamer

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This is why authoritarianism reigns supreme in your country. Question your masters, or stay a slave. You either can't read or can't think.

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Vellor

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we dont even use authoritianism, and i do question stuf.

Stop assuming when ur not from sg

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how does his solutions kill the game??? the reason it works well in cs is because valve is allowing 3rd party to operate with csgo. u have faceit which is a way better ranked experience than valorant right now. but rito wants to be exclusive ofc and take it with their own hands.

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holy shit ure so passionate about this topic lmao

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I fail to see how your valorant rank has anything to do with a corporate office job.

Your MMR and Elo systems are designed by engineers, not the guy making decisions. He looks at presentations saying this system is statistically better than the old one and shows the green light.

Firing one guy will not solve the problem. I also doubt ProCity had anything to do with this.

Moreover, he did not even get fired, he was simply moved to a different project lmao.

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honey, new copy pasta just dropped!

Your MMR and Elo systems are designed by engineers, not the guy making decisions. He looks at presentations saying this system is statistically better than the old one and shows the green light.

Yes, they are designed by 'engineers'. Yes they look at 'presentations' that show this hidden mmr system with no acct verification and no admins and only shit algorithms is 'statistically better' than 'the old one'

Let me guess, you think Modi is brilliant too? hahaha omg bro i cant, youre too funny, thank you for the copy pasta.

He was demoted to a clearly less important position. That's a corporate firing my friend, but you don't know that world.

Once again, my 'valorant rank' is the highest one and the problem is pervasive throughout the ranks: no competitive integrity, ALL pros and content creators complain about state of ranked, and yet community of childe gamers still believe in fairy tales like 'corporations are competent' -- MAY THE PROLETARIAT RISE UP, CHINA IS THE FUTURE! TENCENT IS LORD! TYPING IS AN EXERCISE AND YOU ARE TOO LOW OF WEIGHT, WHO IS NEXT BABY

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That's a corporate firing my friend, but you don't know that world.

I would know better cause probably I actually have a life outside valorant while you were busy in your basement collecting 8 radiant gun buddies 😹😹😹

Also name checks out.

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childegamer

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bro i have 9 lives and you’re a modi cuck so….

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Bro replying to a 5 day old post. Get a life.

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Trust me, 1 guy can definitely ruin a whole operation/team

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HOW DOES ONE GET JOBS LIKE THESE

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yaboidre to his position would be cool to see ^-^

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yea ;)

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100tboejiden to new head dev!

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that's crazy LMFAO there was literally someone calling for this on here a month back. guess riot prod heads are vlr degens as well.....
also a bit weird that this is your first post lol

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this is the better question. who's the OP?

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childegamer

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This is all a Rito psyop. Other members on the dev team knew their boss was incompetent and began posting on VLR.gg and Twitter to stir up community discontent. They then built the case against EvrMoar, typical corporate coup. I am merely a passionate childe gamer who couldn't wait to share the news and thought VLR had to know. #FreeEvrMoar

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https://www.vlr.gg/169183/ranked-is-dying-evrmoar-fired-soon i remember commenting on it lmfao

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childegamer

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this guy was goated, but he's not the only one.

OGs will remember RiotAgainstRiot

Rito psyop, AI chatbot, typing fast and very hard!

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Its the same guy lol prob a yaboidre alt

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made an acc just to rejoice over a queen getting to her bag, u got slaaaaiin sksksk

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head competitive when ?

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GOOD QUESTION, hope they promote YaBoiDre or at least make an announcement

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You seem smart… yet you say weird delusional things like “Not having mods in every game is an excuse.”

You admit that Valorant probably has at least 11 million players, yet you want mods in every game?

You suggest a subscription service that would destroy ranked and you want it modeled after faceit (the system that helped destroy ranked)

You seem like a squealing child that’s angry that the ranked system isn’t catered toward the top .01%

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By 'not having mods in every game' I mean every game in the genre, speaking about the general state of casual-competitive FPS and MOBAs. Still a very, very young industry. Mostly filled with childe gamers who trust their corporate overlords have their best interests at heart. In any case, my point was the failure of moderating other games is not an excuse for Riot to not moderate their own far better than they currently are. it's just a failure of leadership, EvrMoar had 0 tac fps experience -- he came from CoD... developing a grassroots system like FPL, ECL, and Mythic comes from years of knowledge and experience within the community and by the community.

Let me introduce the concept of the panopticon. I suggest you google it for an image. In any case, as youre reading up on Foucault or some shit, consider the following: by coming out strong with a big ban wave, players will begin to self-regulate so you dont need admins to police EVERY game. right now there is a miniscule team of admins who have little to no public presence outside riot gun buddies, and they rely on algorithms to mass report someone enough to review a complaint (or get spammed on twitter by blue checkmarks). thats how ECL, Mythic, FPL work: players begin to have better behavior for fear of being banned, so less reports in general, and less problems...

have your choice:

squealing childe (little LouBag) who has ritos boot deep down his throat

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asking a billion dollar company to invest a fraction of their profits for more admin presence to moderate games (everyone, aside from rito bootlickers like you, complains about the state of ranked: no comms, no teamwork, griefers and throwers going unpunished, wacky hidden mmr system designed around smurfs), add minimum acct thresholds (acct verification, minimum 300hrs, etc.), systems similar to FPL, ECL, & Mythic, and suggesting subscription service as LAST RESORT for rito to give a fuck (for self-interest of making more money)

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bro i cant scroll mfs be writing essays 😭😭😭

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i didn't even play valo anymore , im hardstuck immortal play in a lobby with kids crying / throwing or worse no comms and its hella frustating environment to play , i even re downloaded faceit hoping if they have some similar matchmaking system for csgo but but there's none of it , its just hub .
so the point is ranked experience in valo is bad enough to have ppl resort to que on some hub to play the game , just feel pointless and frustating to grind ranked imo

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there's some hubs in EU, but without Riot support no one will put in the proper investment to start a 3rd party alternative on a larger scale (larger than that of Pro City, for instance)

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theres many hub indeed but hard to find the active one thats why i gave up on playing the game

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yh cause crypto baiting was that guy's fault ??

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you’re inability to read and comprehend were your father’s fault, guy was hardstuck iron in school

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valorantfeedback is that you

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why are people saying hes fired? he just moved to another project? no one here understand how a job works?

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in the corporate world, when you need to remove a very high figure because they failed at their job, and you dont want to admit that failure, you find them a new position. welcome to nepotism.

REJOICE REJOICE! EVRMOAR IS NO MORE!

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you're comparing corporate world to a dev lol, you clearly dont know how the tech field works. Devs are constantly moved to new projects, if they were a bad dev they would be fired from the company not moved to another project, how does that make sense?

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my friend, he was clearly demoted. his demotion coincided with the community protest over ranked. he was clearly sad to leave his position. but keep shilling, keep deepthroating that boot, it's really remarkable how many corporate cucks are on here. you sheep, stay slaves

REJOICE REJOICE! EVRMOAR IS NO MORE!

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https://www.indeed.com/

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You're too based for vlr. You don't belong here, everybodys pc.

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VLR now has weekly 60 resin bosses.
childe is a low tier character in abyss anyways