Seriously, EMEA threw so hard (BBL, FUT, TH, KC should apologise to their fans for their future performance)
Honestly I'd rate this team a little behind giants/vitality tier. That tier being praying liquid/navi/FNC win sao paulo so EMEA because everyone knows they are winning the 3 EMEA slots if they dont.
Number_1_Sheydos_Fan [#4]Heretics arent that bad come on now
zeek raze
washed avova,washed mixwell,mega washed keloqz and a unproven igl,i dont think zeek is enough to save this team
Number_1_Sheydos_Fan [#4]Heretics arent that bad come on now
zeek raze
Im not saying all of heretics is a train wreck, they have some good pieces, but that's it they have SOME good pieces.
The only reason to get those specific players over other better players is for LAN experience, but there were better players out there with LAN experience as well (see apeks enzo, mistic, magnum core). The exG2 core they picked up instead was G2 at its weakest ever, and they show no signs of stopping their downhill trajectory
asdfgh [#5]washed avova,washed mixwell,mega washed keloqz and a unproven igl,i dont think zeek is enough to save this team
And wtf are Apeks? Young upcoming players?
Mortadelo [#8]And wtf are Apeks? Young upcoming players?
Enzo, Mistic, and Magnum are not washed, they just weren't better than leo, chronicle, and derke (3 of europe's best players) plus keiko thrives with good support players for teammates, Apeks is insane
Mortadelo [#8]And wtf are Apeks? Young upcoming players?
lmao flag checks out,apeks already looks like a more complete team than heretics,imagine signing keloqz and mixwell in 2023
ambo69 [#10]Enzo, Mistic, and Magnum are not washed, they just weren't better than leo, chronicle, and derke (3 of europe's best players) plus keiko thrives with good support players for teammates, Apeks is insane
Dude have you watched Magnum all year or you're saying that based on 2 maps? Cause I can guarantee you Magnum was not even the best player in a Spanish relegation team the whole year, exact same case as keloqz. Mistic and Enzo? Bruh it's not about being better or worse than Leo, if they were as good as you say why in the world did they not get picked up, KC literally chose Shin and Newzera.
Look don't get me wrong Apeks looks great, but so did The Barbers, don't overreact like that
Mortadelo [#13]Dude have you watched Magnum all year or you're saying that based on 2 maps? Cause I can guarantee you Magnum was not even the best player in a Spanish relegation team the whole year, exact same case as keloqz. Mistic and Enzo? Bruh it's not about being better or worse than Leo, if they were as good as you say why in the world did they not get picked up, KC literally chose Shin and Newzera.
Look don't get me wrong Apeks looks great, but so did The Barbers, don't overreact like that
KC wanted popular french streamers on their team, not good players
ambo69 [#14]KC wanted popular french streamers on their team, not good players
Enzo has twice as much fanbase as Shin and Newzera dude
Mortadelo [#13]Dude have you watched Magnum all year or you're saying that based on 2 maps? Cause I can guarantee you Magnum was not even the best player in a Spanish relegation team the whole year, exact same case as keloqz. Mistic and Enzo? Bruh it's not about being better or worse than Leo, if they were as good as you say why in the world did they not get picked up, KC literally chose Shin and Newzera.
Look don't get me wrong Apeks looks great, but so did The Barbers, don't overreact like that
theres a chance they didnt pick up enzo due to buyouts.
couldve spent too much money on scream + nivera
capital_d_colon [#16]theres a chance they didnt pick up enzo due to buyouts.
couldve spent too much money on scream + nivera
So Apeks could afford it and KC no?
ambo69 [#14]KC wanted popular french streamers on their team, not good players
they got scream nivera and xms and then ran out of money
Mortadelo [#17]So Apeks could afford it and KC no?
buyout would likely be lower later on in the season, when there is less competition etc..
they arent too broke either.
https://www.proff.no/regnskap/prounite-as/oslo/aktivitetsarrang%C3%B8rer/IF6NT0G09M6/
besides its probably not the reason.
maybe its enzo's desire to be an igl
Mortadelo [#19]Could have waited on the contract, or anyone else could have got them if they thought they were better
maybe apeks had a better offer
jackb2016 [#22]These are the same players Fnatic fans and vlr users were saying should be dropped from fnatic but now there is a change of heart, interesting
maybe because they are performing well lol
Mortadelo [#23]Really? a tier 2 team is a better offer than playing in a French superteam? Even if they were paying him twice as much it would not be a better offer my friend
"super team" bro they have 2 good french players. I can name 10 better players than half their team off the top of my head
ambo69 [#10]Enzo, Mistic, and Magnum are not washed, they just weren't better than leo, chronicle, and derke (3 of europe's best players) plus keiko thrives with good support players for teammates, Apeks is insane
Have you seen Magnum aim? It's like FNS but less drugs, dude's shaking left and right randomly trying to hit the target
Honestly I don't know how he was even allowed into Fnatic and KOI
capital_d_colon [#20]buyout would likely be lower later on in the season, when there is less competition etc..
they arent too broke either.
https://www.proff.no/regnskap/prounite-as/oslo/aktivitetsarrang%C3%B8rer/IF6NT0G09M6/besides its probably not the reason.
maybe its enzo's desire to be an igl
Stop looking for reasons, there isn't any. You don't reject your countries superteam on the org with the most fanbase just cause you wanna IGL in Tier 2 instead
ambo69 [#25]"super team" bro they have 2 good french players. I can name 10 better players than half their team off the top of my head
Not asking for 10 better players, asking for 10 better French speaking players than a team with Scream, Nivera xms and Enzo, go ahead and name them then. A superteam is not the best 5 players in the world , it's the 5 best players from a region
Mortadelo [#27]Stop looking for reasons, there isn't any. You don't reject your countries superteam on the org with the most fanbase just cause you wanna IGL in Tier 2 instead
then why wouldnt kc ,this so called "french super team", pick up the best french init?
ambo69 [#2]MISTIC AND MAGNUM A MAIN THEYRE SO GOOD
Just curious, have you ever watched any EMEA matches before
capital_d_colon [#29]then why wouldnt kc ,this so called "french super team", pick up the best french init?
Because they decided sticking to Shin and Newzera was a good bet and taking the risk was worth it respect of what Enzo would bring to the team. But idk, no one knows Ig
Mortadelo [#28]Not asking for 10 better players, asking for 10 better French speaking players than a team with Scream, Nivera xms and Enzo, go ahead and name them then. A superteam is not the best 5 players in the world , it's the 5 best players from a region
Enzo, DavidP, Logan, Takas, Roden, AKUMAAAA, CREA, M4CHINA, KAdavra, Amilwa
All of these players are better than at least one of KC, and I'd say most are better than 3.
ambo69 [#32]Enzo, DavidP, Logan, Takas, Roden, AKUMAAAA, CREA, M4CHINA, KAdavra, Amilwa
All of these players are better than at least one of KC, and I'd say most are better than 3.
Takas maybe but you don't need a duelist, Enzo yes. The rest you have not seen them play in so long, and don't even try to say otherwise cause a couple of them are actually retired kek
jackb2016 [#22]These are the same players Fnatic fans and vlr users were saying should be dropped from fnatic but now there is a change of heart, interesting
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asdfgh [#5]washed avova,washed mixwell,mega washed keloqz and a unproven igl,i dont think zeek is enough to save this team
tbf avova mixunwell and keloqz are ass
Boo is not unproven wtf are you smoking
and zeek raze 😋
Number_1_Sheydos_Fan [#38]tbf avova mixunwell and keloqz are ass
Boo is not unproven wtf are you smoking
and zeek raze 😋
wdym he was igling a team that did nothing in vct,maybe not unproven but not tier 1 proof
Mortadelo [#33]Takas maybe but you don't need a duelist, Enzo yes. The rest you have not seen them play in so long, and don't even try to say otherwise cause a couple of them are actually retired kek
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Well he said Kiles, so ig that does explain many things
ambo69 [#2]MISTIC AND MAGNUM A MAIN THEYRE SO GOOD
bro is the biggest emea hater. bro need to chill and start looking at NA.
chekhoz [#42]bro is the biggest emea hater. bro need to chill and start looking at NA.
Bro dont even gat me STARTED on NA some of the teams and decisions there are SO BAD
asdfgh [#39]wdym he was igling a team that did nothing in vct,maybe not unproven but not tier 1 proof
OGLU wasnt even that bad, and boo was the centerpiece of that team (-molsi)
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