Among NA orgs, 100T has the best shot at going the furthest in Brazil.
babysasuke [#2]but they lost their head coach
I think SEN/PRX/DRX/NRG have a better shot.
ALSO Will was playing duelist as well, so someone is going to need to role swap to cover Raze/neon
+C9 FNC TL
babysasuke [#2]but they lost their head coach
I think SEN/PRX/DRX/NRG have a better shot.
ALSO Will was playing duelist as well, so someone is going to need to role swap to cover Raze/neon
we are talking about NA orgs??
what the hell in drx and prx doing there
babysasuke [#2]but they lost their head coach
I think SEN/PRX/DRX/NRG have a better shot.
ALSO Will was playing duelist as well, so someone is going to need to role swap to cover Raze/neon
AFAIK(player streams) Mikes was responsible for most of the strategy and team comp anyway. I don't think it will affect them that much since mikes is a capable coach.
capital_d_colon [#5]we are talking about NA orgs??
what the hell in drx and prx doing there
he mentioned teams that kept their cores
I think DRX and PRX are a better example of this and will do better
and NRG/SEN are going to be stronger than 100T out of the gate from NA
C9 is a coin toss, I have no idea how theyre going to do.
babysasuke [#8]he mentioned teams that kept their cores
I think DRX and PRX are a better example of this and will do better
and NRG/SEN are going to be stronger than 100T out of the gate from NA
C9 is a coin toss, I have no idea how theyre going to do.
snuck paperfluke in there
babysasuke [#2]but they lost their head coach
I think SEN/PRX/DRX/NRG have a better shot.
ALSO Will was playing duelist as well, so someone is going to need to role swap to cover Raze/neon
Asuna can raze/neon better than will
babysasuke [#11]bro just hating for no reason
ratio by botquid https://www.vlr.gg/130621/paper-rex-vs-team-liquid-valorant-champions-2022-group-stage-decider-a
babysasuke [#8]he mentioned teams that kept their cores
I think DRX and PRX are a better example of this and will do better
and NRG/SEN are going to be stronger than 100T out of the gate from NA
C9 is a coin toss, I have no idea how theyre going to do.
Im more confident with drx over prx.
Nrg will be the top NA team probably.
also mike is a really good coach so i dont think the change in coach will be a problem.
c9 is a weird one. but theyve appointed the right coaches so they may be very good
nutab1e [#3]fairly based for NA, DRX imo taking it
They have overcome their knockout stage curse last Champions but I am still not convinced they can go the distance.
babysasuke [#2]but they lost their head coach
I think SEN/PRX/DRX/NRG have a better shot.
ALSO Will was playing duelist as well, so someone is going to need to role swap to cover Raze/neon
asuna was playing neon raze will only played mainly chamber and jett
SaltyMcNulty [#14]They have overcome their knockout stage curse last Champions but I am still not convinced they can go the distance.
dont worry foxy dropping 40 on tenz head :)
nutab1e [#12]ratio by botquid https://www.vlr.gg/130621/paper-rex-vs-team-liquid-valorant-champions-2022-group-stage-decider-a
everyone has bad games/tournaments
remember that Optic got blown out by guild.
If they lost their next series would you call them flukers too?
33AJ [#10]Asuna can raze/neon better than will
I would have agreed prior to champs but Will popped off
babysasuke [#8]he mentioned teams that kept their cores
I think DRX and PRX are a better example of this and will do better
and NRG/SEN are going to be stronger than 100T out of the gate from NA
C9 is a coin toss, I have no idea how theyre going to do.
Bruh I said among NA orgs 100T has the best shot! But still I don't mind people engaging in the conversation of who is the tournament favorite.
babysasuke [#17]everyone has bad games/tournaments
remember that Optic got blown out by guild.
If they lost their next series would you call them flukers too?
guild was better but then management sabotaged their own team
gordonramsay [#16]dont worry foxy dropping 40 on tenz head :)
Nah, hes gonna cream his pants when he sees his idol on stage.
SaltyMcNulty [#19]Bruh I said among NA orgs 100T has the best shot! But still I don't mind people engaging in the conversation of who is the tournament favorite.
of all people I would have assumed you would see than SEN has the firepower to dismantle 100T lol
and NRG is going to clear them, they have too much experience to drop early.
nutab1e [#6]+ratio wb king
Common nutab1e L. Why am I not surprised that you failed to ratio the goat dokka?
nutab1e [#20]guild was better but then management sabotaged their own team
PRX are flukers but Guild was better?
High grade copium, fluke win off a shaky start from yay
No use arguing it now though, just 3 months til you see top 4: PRX, DRX, SEN, NRG with an all APAC GF
SaltyMcNulty [#21]Nah, hes gonna cream his pants when he sees his idol on stage.
after that he ll drop 40
Qwertyy [#26]yay clears
Can't do it without victor making space for his ass to OP and hold an angle all day
SaltyMcNulty [#28]Can't do it without victor making space for his ass to OP and hold an angle all day
zellsis space making >>>>>>>>
babysasuke [#22]of all people I would have assumed you would see than SEN has the firepower to dismantle 100T lol
and NRG is going to clear them, they have too much experience to drop early.
They have! When did I say SEN hasn't got the firepower to compete with 100T? But firepower isn't everything. With sacy & pANcada not having visas yet and too many moving pieces on the roster I don't think SEN will be best prepared for Brazil LAN but I expect them to get better over the year.
nutab1e [#20]guild was better but then management sabotaged their own team
Guild is better PRX is fluke??? Nice one bro
SaltyMcNulty [#30]They have! When did I say SEN hasn't got the firepower to compete with 100T? But firepower isn't everything. With sacy & pANcada not having visas yet and too many moving pieces on the roster I don't think SEN will be best prepared for Brazil LAN but I expect them to get better over the year.
They have more than enough time to build up the XSET environement with Sykko, Dephh, and Zekken + TenZ is just going to be aimbot + Sacy and Pancada are world champions
If this roster and staff cant get the team in shape, even with 2 players remote, in 5 months we're looking at another doomed season from SEN
SaltyMcNulty [#14]They have overcome their knockout stage curse last Champions but I am still not convinced they can go the distance.
They did finish 3rd and only lost in a close battle against Optic so yeah I believe they can
100t was a bottom 4 team in champions
sure cryo is a massive upgrade but C9 and NRG clearly have way higher chances to go deeper if ur talking about the core
sen also has a high ceiling with zekken pancada and sacy
100t lost their coach
only 2 of the 100t players have actually played on stage (could not be a issue but still a possibility)
this statement is simply wrong
SaltyMcNulty [#28]Can't do it without victor making space for his ass to OP and hold an angle all day
he is on a team with 3 entry players xDD
why do u guys think yay is just useless without victor?
babysasuke [#32]They have more than enough time to build up the XSET environement with Sykko, Dephh, and Zekken + TenZ is just going to be aimbot + Sacy and Pancada are world champions
If this roster and staff cant get the team in shape, even with 2 players remote, in 5 months we're looking at another doomed season from SEN
I hope they will be at their best but I am trying to be realistic. who knows when they are gonna get visas! There will be 30 teams in that tournament, no one knows how fked the format is going to be. The tournament winner literally have to be flawless at every stage and it's hard when you have a new mix of people, possible language barrier, coaching stuff with possibly differing ideas, new metas. Just so many moving pieces.
babysasuke [#2]but they lost their head coach
I think SEN/PRX/DRX/NRG have a better shot.
ALSO Will was playing duelist as well, so someone is going to need to role swap to cover Raze/neon
Asuna was already playing Raze originally on Bind before Will came into the picture and always seemed to be doing quite well on the roll, also Asuna is playing Neon on Fracture so I don’t think they’ll have a problem there. I think it’ll mean team comps will change but it won’t be too drastic.
nutab1e [#34]and victor isn't?
Victor is always a high impact player. Also, I doubt zellsis is going to be their entry, most likely it's gonna be leaf. leaf is a fantastic player but I don't know if he would be as selfless as victor.
SaltyMcNulty [#33]no way you are serious rn! zellsis is hit or miss.
Zellsis on a team like C9 will make you change your mind I feel. On SEN we saw glimpses of how well he can play that entry roll but I always felt like he was being held back from truly getting in there. Obviously that came down to how poorly SEN’s LCQ performance was but all in all I think Zellsis will surprise a lot of people next year.
sad_gambit_fan [#37]100t was a bottom 4 team in champions
sure cryo is a massive upgrade but C9 and NRG clearly have way higher chances to go deeper if ur talking about the core
sen also has a high ceiling with zekken pancada and sacy
100t lost their coach
only 2 of the 100t players have actually played on stage (could not be a issue but still a possibility)this statement is simply wrong
I don't think NRG will be good initially. New meta, new star player, not being able to start full scrimmage yet but they definitely do have the higher ceiling between the two. They will be better than 100T in the long run imo.
SaltyMcNulty [#39]I hope they will be at their best but I am trying to be realistic. who knows when they are gonna get visas! There will be 30 teams in that tournament, no one knows how fked the format is going to be. The tournament winner literally have to be flawless at every stage and it's hard when you have a new mix of people, possible language barrier, coaching stuff with possibly differing ideas, new metas. Just so many moving pieces.
crazy that I have more faith in SEN than you do
I guess maybe I have less to lose because youre the one that gonna get blasted if they bomb out 💀
Tyzehhxo [#42]Zellsis on a team like C9 will make you change your mind I feel. On SEN we saw glimpses of how well he can play that entry roll but I always felt like he was being held back from truly getting in there. Obviously that came down to how poorly SEN’s LCQ performance was but all in all I think Zellsis will surprise a lot of people next year.
I doubt his consistency, not his ability to compete at a high level. But if anyone can utilize him the best way possible, it's gonna be mCe.
babysasuke [#44]crazy that I have more faith in SEN than you do
I guess maybe I have less to lose because youre the one that gonna get blasted if they bomb out 💀
bold of you to assume you will still see me on vlr if they bomb out LMAO 💀
SaltyMcNulty [#46]bold of you to assume you will still see me on vlr if they bomb out LMAO 💀
who would just disappear for weeks at a time when their team loses 💀
couldnt be me
SaltyMcNulty [#45]I doubt his consistency, not his ability to compete at a high level. But if anyone can utilize him the best way possible, it's gonna be mCe.
Yeah I’d agree with you there. He has struggled a bit with consistency but you’re right, if anyone can utilise him to his full potential it’s mCe. I’m excited to see this roster compete, be extremely interesting to see what the roles will shape up to be too.
sad_gambit_fan [#37]100t was a bottom 4 team in champions
sure cryo is a massive upgrade but C9 and NRG clearly have way higher chances to go deeper if ur talking about the core
sen also has a high ceiling with zekken pancada and sacy
100t lost their coach
only 2 of the 100t players have actually played on stage (could not be a issue but still a possibility)this statement is simply wrong
Bottom 4 by placement, however they were definitely not bot 4 in terms of skill. They challenged DRX pretty heavily (breeze mostly but still), while they had COVID
Better conditions im sure they get to playoffs over fnc
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