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Top5 players of all time by roles

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#1
ChrisGG

Mostly based on consistency since the game released and how good they were in their peak form

Duelist/chamber
1- Yay 🐐
2- Derke
3- Cned
4- Tenz
5- Sayf/Screamm/Cryo/Aspas/Nukkye/Jingg/Forsaken/Keznit/Zekken

Initiator
1-Sacy
2-Leo
3- Shao
4-Chronicle
5-Crashies/Trent/Stax/Sheydos

Controller
1- Mako
2- Marved
3- Pancada
4- Mindfreak
5- Sscary/Sugarz3ro/ Avova/Bang

Sentinel
1- Nats
2- Suygetsu
3- Less
4- Dapr
5-K1ng/Alfajer/Buzz

IGL
1- FNS
2- Ange1
3- Saadhak (could be 1st cuz his aim is way way better than any other IGL)
4- Redgar ( same as saadhak)
5- Koldamenta/Boaster/Stax (also a killing machine)

#2
RickyIndian
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ShaZam - Best ever duelist IGL

#3
ChrisGG
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Lmk if I missed someone

#4
Gutssz
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Duelist top3: yay / Derke / ardiis
Initiator top3: Shao / Sacy / Crashies
Controller top3: Marved / Mako / Pancada
Sentinel top3: nAts / SUYGETSU / Less
Igl top3: FNS / Redgar / Vanity

#5
aylez
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aint no way trent and stax are on the same level.

#6
burritx
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Marved over pANcada 💀

#7
Mooony
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RickyIndian [#2]

ShaZam - Best ever duelist IGL

Tbh you may not be wrong considering the responsibilities shahz had at the start while still being able to be right up there on the scoreboard

#8
Dolphin
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why say top 5 and then

Sayf/Screamm/Cryo/Aspas/Nukkye/Jingg/Forsaken/Keznit/Zekken

#9
Delusional_Messi_Fan
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Trent at same lv than Crashies 💀

#10
patuj
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actually pretty good

#11
ChrisGG
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Dolphin [#8]

why say top 5 and then

Sayf/Screamm/Cryo/Aspas/Nukkye/Jingg/Forsaken/Keznit/Zekken

Too many options in that role to pick only one for 5th

#12
Perma
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yay goat

#13
Dolphin
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ChrisGG [#11]

Too many options in that role to pick only one for 5th

isnt that the point of doing top 5

#14
FNEGGS
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wdym based on consistency and peak tenz hasn't been consistent in months and his peak was against teams that dont even exist anymore common dawg

#15
Corny
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RickyIndian [#2]

ShaZam - Best ever duelist IGL

Nitr0's jett igling in berlin

#16
number1_ScreaM_fan
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Dolphin [#13]

isnt that the point of doing top 5

equal top 5 ig

#17
Guelry
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Pancada MVP💀

#18
jimjam789
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Guelry [#17]

Pancada MVP💀

mako has been way more consistent through both vct years

#19
jawn
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if this is based on consistency and peak form why isn't shahzam here? one of the best while IGLing for more than a year

#20
Traderslife
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mans snuck in tenz

#21
Sushi_
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bro said avova

#22
Flyjin
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mans robbed buzz so hard in duelist

he absolutely shat on cned when they faced and hes been always huge

#23
RiceBowl
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Tenz best chamber/duelist
Shahzam best igl

#24
aTastyCook1e
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🐐 ASPAS 🐐 top 1 duelist.....

#25
SilentCypher
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Stax's impact combined with his calling ability makes him the top pick ngl.
The amount of times he outfrags while mid round calling is insane
Not to take away from any other IGL, but Stax just is a whole different Chad!

#26
avepalto
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RiceBowl [#23]

Tenz best chamber/duelist
Shahzam best igl

ok RickyIndian

#27
tronunz
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.

#28
DrudaL
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Jinggg>tonz

#29
GreyDaze
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I don't like putting chamber and duelist as same so here goes

Chamber:
Yay
Ardiis
Derke
Cryo
Jamppi

Duelist:
Aspas
Buzz
Zyppan
Zekken
Jiing

Controller:
Pancada
Mako
Marved
Mindfreak
Sug3zero

Initiator:
Sacy
Chronicle
Leo
Sheydos
Crashies

Sentinel:
Nats
Suygetsu
Less
Alfajer
Zander

Igl:
Fns
Saadhak
Ange1
Redgar
Stax

#30
tennisfan
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Hot take: Derke is overrated and certainly isn't #2

#31
GHOST141
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Cned noob lol

#32
M0K1
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Dolphin [#8]

why say top 5 and then

Sayf/Screamm/Cryo/Aspas/Nukkye/Jingg/Forsaken/Keznit/Zekken

also jingg forsaken and scream have been better than tenz for the whole year

#33
versa_
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Bro really forgot zander

#34
manwhat
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GreyDaze [#29]

I don't like putting chamber and duelist as same so here goes

Chamber:
Yay
Ardiis
Derke
Cryo
Jamppi

Duelist:
Aspas
Buzz
Zyppan
Zekken
Jiing

Controller:
Pancada
Mako
Marved
Mindfreak
Sug3zero

Initiator:
Sacy
Chronicle
Leo
Sheydos
Crashies

Sentinel:
Nats
Suygetsu
Less
Alfajer
Zander

Igl:
Fns
Saadhak
Ange1
Redgar
Stax

i love zekken but if this is an all time list there is no way ur not putting tenz in that list.. only one who matches his peak in 2021 is yay

#35
GreyDaze
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tennisfan [#30]

Hot take: Derke is overrated and certainly isn't #2

Bad take. The only chambers better than him are ardiis and maybe cryo and his peak is almost as high as yay's

#36
JCopper
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burritx [#6]

Marved over pANcada 💀

Its a all time list

#37
JCopper
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Pretty good list, duelist is the one i disagree with the most but its so stacked ordering it is hard

#38
PuGGey
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Derke is so overrated its not even funny.
in what world is Derke better than Cryo or Aspas, or general duelists Jingg and Forsaken

Peak TenZ is also way better than Cned; and Aspas, Jingg, and Forsaken clear both

#39
babysasuke
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PuGGey [#38]

Derke is so overrated its not even funny.
in what world is Derke better than Cryo or Aspas, or general duelists Jingg and Forsaken

Peak TenZ is also way better than Cned; and Aspas, Jingg, and Forsaken clear both

💀

#40
babysasuke
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No mention on Dicey, babybay, or supamen is criminal

all biased lists

If any of you were actually watching VCT you would know the only EMEA players that belong on any top 5 lists are cNed, Zeek, and shao

#41
shockyyyy
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M0K1 [#32]

also jingg forsaken and scream have been better than tenz for the whole year

Of all time. Tenz was a demon in 2021. He also still holds the best statistical tournament ever

#42
shockyyyy
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versa_ [#33]

Bro really forgot zander

LOL time to get out of your vr headset buddy

#43
equinoxyy
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man put cned, but not put zyppan buzz tacolilla

#44
Luck_
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Delusional_Messi_Fan [#9]

Trent at same lv than Crashies 💀

crashies belongs higher but trent is on par in terms of skill. crashies has more lan exp and also a lot more time in the spotlight. im sure if trent was at lan as much as crashies, he would be on his level but he hasnt proved himself on lan yet. trent shouldnt be on this list lmao

#45
ZeRUSia
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tronunz [#27]

.

W list

#46
-morte-
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FNEGGS [#14]

wdym based on consistency and peak tenz hasn't been consistent in months and his peak was against teams that dont even exist anymore common dawg

Idk why people are down voting you when it's the truth. He is definitely really good but his consistency has been lacking. Hopefully this next season it will change but we shall see

#47
PuGGey
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equinoxyy [#43]

man put cned, but not put zyppan buzz tacolilla

FACTS. Buzz great, but fr Tacolilla was top 3 chambers this year. prolly was Yay Aspas Tacolilla top 3 at last event. maybe Cryo = Tacolilla at least as of last event, and Id say Tacolilla > Ardiis but idrk.

#48
GreyDaze
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PuGGey [#38]

Derke is so overrated its not even funny.
in what world is Derke better than Cryo or Aspas, or general duelists Jingg and Forsaken

Peak TenZ is also way better than Cned; and Aspas, Jingg, and Forsaken clear both

Derke literally had better stats than all of them except aspas in champions. What are u smoking??

#49
GreyDaze
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PuGGey [#47]

FACTS. Buzz great, but fr Tacolilla was top 3 chambers this year. prolly was Yay Aspas Tacolilla top 3 at last event. maybe Cryo = Tacolilla at least as of last event, and Id say Tacolilla > Ardiis but idrk.

Ardiis,derke>cryo,taco

#50
GreyDaze
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PuGGey [#38]

Derke is so overrated its not even funny.
in what world is Derke better than Cryo or Aspas, or general duelists Jingg and Forsaken

Peak TenZ is also way better than Cned; and Aspas, Jingg, and Forsaken clear both

There is no way peak tenz was better than peak cned. Teams literally were scared of cned back then. 100t made a strategy of winning by just running away from the site cned was in. Tenz had his peak against worse teams. Cned had his peak against better teams. Peak cned>peak tenz

#51
equinoxyy
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PuGGey [#47]

FACTS. Buzz great, but fr Tacolilla was top 3 chambers this year. prolly was Yay Aspas Tacolilla top 3 at last event. maybe Cryo = Tacolilla at least as of last event, and Id say Tacolilla > Ardiis but idrk.

at least the top 5 should be, yay aspas derke ardiis cryo/taco

#52
ayayaay
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Gutssz [#4]

Duelist top3: yay / Derke / ardiis
Initiator top3: Shao / Sacy / Crashies
Controller top3: Marved / Mako / Pancada
Sentinel top3: nAts / SUYGETSU / Less
Igl top3: FNS / Redgar / Vanity

ange1 crying in the corner

#53
NG1nS
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switch saadhak and ange1 maybe

#54
FooBar
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OPer : yay | Derke | ardiis
DueIist : aspas | ScreaM | Jinggg
Initiator : sacy | Sheydos | Leo
Controller : Marved | MaKo | mindfreak
Sentinels : nAts | Suygetsu | Alfajer
I G L : Redgar | FNS | Ange1

#55
Na1myy
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Good list but imo you really underrate Chronicle considering he was the best player in the world in late 2021.

#56
PuGGey
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equinoxyy [#51]

at least the top 5 should be, yay aspas derke ardiis cryo/taco

when I compare Cryo and Ardiis i think back to that last map on Ascent where I think Cryo tended to best Ardiis more often and was a bigger player. As for taco vs ardiis, I think ardiis is a better clutch player, but only because taco dosnt even let rounds get into that state to begin with. hes so reliable at setting LEV to cleanly ace a round. he dosnt just trade 1 for 1 and wait for post plants, when he finds something, he takes the round and makes sure to do it cleanly for their economy. wheras FPX was i think the second best eco team this last event after 100T

#57
GreyDaze
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PuGGey [#56]

when I compare Cryo and Ardiis i think back to that last map on Ascent where I think Cryo tended to best Ardiis more often and was a bigger player. As for taco vs ardiis, I think ardiis is a better clutch player, but only because taco dosnt even let rounds get into that state to begin with. hes so reliable at setting LEV to cleanly ace a round. he dosnt just trade 1 for 1 and wait for post plants, when he finds something, he takes the round and makes sure to do it cleanly for their economy. wheras FPX was i think the second best eco team this last event after 100T

Ardiis was +2 against cryo in the match they won and cryo was +2 in the match they won. But in both matches ardiis had better acs and overall better stats than cryo in champions. Ardiis>cryo

#58
Sk00d
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imagine saying based on consistency and not putting scream up there

#59
tennisfan
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GreyDaze [#35]

Bad take. The only chambers better than him are ardiis and maybe cryo and his peak is almost as high as yay's

It's not just Chamber, it's Chamber/Duelists

#60
ortuh
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GreyDaze [#29]

I don't like putting chamber and duelist as same so here goes

Chamber:
Yay
Ardiis
Derke
Cryo
Jamppi

Duelist:
Aspas
Buzz
Zyppan
Zekken
Jiing

Controller:
Pancada
Mako
Marved
Mindfreak
Sug3zero

Initiator:
Sacy
Chronicle
Leo
Sheydos
Crashies

Sentinel:
Nats
Suygetsu
Less
Alfajer
Zander

Igl:
Fns
Saadhak
Ange1
Redgar
Stax

Zander in sentinels?

#61
GreyDaze
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ortuh [#60]

Zander in sentinels?

He is also a really good sentinel player apart from smokes

#62
GreyDaze
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tennisfan [#59]

It's not just Chamber, it's Chamber/Duelists

Even his raze and Jett are top tier. But I am only talking about his chamber

#63
Georgee
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FooBar [#54]

OPer : yay | Derke | ardiis
DueIist : aspas | ScreaM | Jinggg
Initiator : sacy | Sheydos | Leo
Controller : Marved | MaKo | mindfreak
Sentinels : nAts | Suygetsu | Alfajer
I G L : Redgar | FNS | Ange1

Best list ❌🧢

#64
tennisfan
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GreyDaze [#62]

Even his raze and Jett are top tier. But I am only talking about his chamber

He's not the #2 duelist/chamber of all time and nothing you say is going to convince me otherwise

#65
GreyDaze
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tennisfan [#64]

He's not the #2 duelist/chamber of all time and nothing you say is going to convince me otherwise

U are right. He is not #2. He is #3 coz ardiis is better than him

#66
PuGGey
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GreyDaze [#57]

Ardiis was +2 against cryo in the match they won and cryo was +2 in the match they won. But in both matches ardiis had better acs and overall better stats than cryo in champions. Ardiis>cryo

yeah i get numbers and all that but im talking about during those head to heads it just looked like cryo was so much more impactful. its a kinda either or comparison but if you were to ask me id say cryo was a stronger and more impactful player head to head vs ardiis, i wouldnt say ardiis > is wrong, id just disagree. also i like ardiis more than cryo for what its worth. zekken goat tho

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