In my opinion
Bronzil:
1- LOUD aspas
2- VK mwzera
3- FURIA dgzin
4- VK heat
5- LOUD pANcada
6- FURIA qck
7- NIP xand
8- LOUD Less
9- NIP cauanzin
10- LOS RND
https://clips.twitch.tv/CrypticFuriousSalamanderAMPTropPunch-nKop3hn3lNMK8UbU
from few minutes ago :)
trembolonaRage [#2]https://clips.twitch.tv/CrypticFuriousSalamanderAMPTropPunch-nKop3hn3lNMK8UbU
from few minutes ago :)
Do you think he is more skilled than Aspas? Aspas is the most skilled player in the world atm imo
Noyn [#3]Do you think he is more skilled than Aspas? Aspas is the most skilled player in the world atm imo
I think both are very good but
mwzera have been delivering insane stats since 2020, he is constantly dropping amazing numbers with different class of agents, he have been to multiple teams with different people with different IGLs and his performance simply doesnt decrease, for an insane amount of rounds, for months, for 2 years
i just cant see anyone more dominant than him considering all these factors
YvngKurry [#8]When players like shao, sugetsu and yay exist how tf can u say aspas is the best itw
“Most skilled” not best player overall
Noyn [#10]“Most skilled” not best player overall
Yea thats what i meant. IMO suygetsu's map positioning and awareness is insane and shao's utility usage and clutchability is the best
Gutssz [#11]1- SMB Brave
2- FF lauress
3- FF sociablee
4- BBL QutionerX
5- FB Elite
6- SMB Izzy
7- FUT qw1
8- PRL Jlerst
9- FF Sterben
10- GS Touven
Lauress is insane, idk how EMEA teams didnt hire him yet
Tsarcasm11 [#14]
- PRX f0rsaken
- PRX jinggg
- ONC monyet
- ONC Lmemore
- TS dubstep
- XIA Surf
- PRX Mindfreak
- XIA sScary
- TS jremy
- BME TehbotoL
Are those Onic players that good? I cant imagine how good they are to be above of Surf, sScary, and Mindfreak
Noyn [#17]Are those Onic players that good? I cant imagine how good they are to be above of Surf, sScary, and Mindfreak
theyre good mechanically its just the team strats rely on their aim mostly to win
OriGinalgamerSWEAT [#21]Not in order:
100T Asuna
100T Bang
SEN Tenz
C9 Leaf
C9 Xeppa
FaZe Dicey
FaZe Babybay
EG Jawgemo
Guard Sayaplayer
“I only watch open qualifiers” ranking
f0rsakeN
8lua
Lightningfast
Jremy
Jinggg
Deryeon
Lmemore
SkRossi
deLb
Nexi
Surf
kelly
WRONSKI
proof : https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1063/champions-tour-asia-pacific-stage-2-challengers-playoffs
YvngKurry [#18]
- Optic Yay
- Optic Marved
- Xset Cryo
- Faze Dicey
- C9 Leaf
- Xset Zekken
- C9 Xeta
- Faze Supaman
- SR Bdog
Anyone wanna tell me what the hype around Supa is I thought he was underperforming im probably wrong though
Ultimateattack [#19]theyre good mechanically its just the team strats rely on their aim mostly to win
yep
trembolonaRage [#7]I think both are very good but
mwzera have been delivering insane stats since 2020, he is constantly dropping amazing numbers with different class of agents, he have been to multiple teams with different people with different IGLs and his performance simply doesnt decrease, for an insane amount of rounds, for months, for 2 years
i just cant see anyone more dominant than him considering all these factors
Mwzera not even top 20 in my books
Tsarcasm11 [#14]
- PRX f0rsaken
- PRX jinggg
- ONC monyet
- ONC Lmemore
- TS dubstep
- XIA Surf
- PRX Mindfreak
- XIA sScary
- TS jremy
- BME TehbotoL
agree on lmemore above surf mindfreak and sscary, but sorry monyet should be lower, but definitely top 10, foxz also a top 10 player in apac
SigndifUr_ [#25]Anyone wanna tell me what the hype around Supa is I thought he was underperforming im probably wrong though
he popped off a lot when he was on rise
OriGinalgamerSWEAT [#21]Not in order:
100T Asuna
100T Bang
SEN Tenz
C9 Leaf
C9 Xeppa
FaZe Dicey
FaZe Babybay
EG Jawgemo
Guard Sayaplayer
Interesting no Asuna, I know he fell off, but still
number1_ScreaM_fan [#16]
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
based
YvngKurry [#18]
- Optic Yay
- Optic Marved
- Xset Cryo
- Faze Dicey
- C9 Leaf
- Xset Zekken
- C9 Xeta
- Faze Supaman
- SR Bdog
Leaf should be number 2 and marved should be number 1
trembolonaRage [#7]I think both are very good but
mwzera have been delivering insane stats since 2020, he is constantly dropping amazing numbers with different class of agents, he have been to multiple teams with different people with different IGLs and his performance simply doesnt decrease, for an insane amount of rounds, for months, for 2 years
i just cant see anyone more dominant than him considering all these factors
whos mwzera
No1AsunaFannn [#34]Interesting no Asuna, I know he fell off, but still
He didn't fall off, he is not on duelist anymore, he is not set up to kill but to help Will get kills and create space. Last game vs FaZe, it reminded me of the duelist asuna
Tsarcasm11 [#14]
- PRX f0rsaken
- PRX jinggg
- ONC monyet
- ONC Lmemore
- TS dubstep
- XIA Surf
- PRX Mindfreak
- XIA sScary
- TS jremy
- BME TehbotoL
GE skrossi missed
BattleCry [#44]GE skrossi missed
You mean the guy who tp’ed in front of their enemy like Derke kekw?
BattleCry [#44]GE skrossi missed
OHHHHH IS THAT THE GUY WHO BUYS AN OP WHILE HIS TEAMMATES ECO AND FAILED TO SAVE CAUSE HE WANTED KILLS? AH SILLY ME!
trembolonaRage [#7]I think both are very good but
mwzera have been delivering insane stats since 2020, he is constantly dropping amazing numbers with different class of agents, he have been to multiple teams with different people with different IGLs and his performance simply doesnt decrease, for an insane amount of rounds, for months, for 2 years
i just cant see anyone more dominant than him considering all these factors
Trembo being reasonable I like it. Good post!
YvngKurry [#18]
- Optic Yay
- Optic Marved
- Xset Cryo
- Faze Dicey
- C9 Leaf
- Xset Zekken
- C9 Xeta
- Faze Supaman
- SR Bdog
Supaman is way to high. I'd replace him with Sayaplayer, Babybay, Xeppaa, or Ban.
OriGinalgamerSWEAT [#21]Not in order:
100T Asuna
100T Bang
SEN Tenz
C9 Leaf
C9 Xeppa
FaZe Dicey
FaZe Babybay
EG Jawgemo
Guard Sayaplayer
Bro where tf is Yay + Marved. They're literally front runners for the two best players in their respective roles worldwide.
YvngKurry [#18]
- Optic Yay
- Optic Marved
- Xset Cryo
- Faze Dicey
- C9 Leaf
- Xset Zekken
- C9 Xeta
- Faze Supaman
- SR Bdog
Personally, dicey is #2 potentially #1.
TS_ChedZ [#28]
- ORDER WRONSKI
- F/A SWERL
- RGN Minimise
- BOBO signed
- BONK taxx
- RGN xsus
- FC andy
- HB Autumn
- ORDER Texta
- ORDER rDeeW
Swerl is just a flashy player. You look at his stats and tell me he is #2. No shot
Gutssz [#11]1- SMB Brave
2- FF lauress
3- FF sociablee
4- BBL QutionerX
5- FB Elite
6- SMB Izzy
7- FUT qw1
8- PRL Jlerst
9- FF Sterben
10- GS Touven
Lauress > brave
Gutssz [#11]1- SMB Brave
2- FF lauress
3- FF sociablee
4- BBL QutionerX
5- FB Elite
6- SMB Izzy
7- FUT qw1
8- PRL Jlerst
9- FF Sterben
10- GS Touven
Brave isn’t top 1
Tsarcasm11 [#14]
- PRX f0rsaken
- PRX jinggg
- ONC monyet
- ONC Lmemore
- TS dubstep
- XIA Surf
- PRX Mindfreak
- XIA sScary
- TS jremy
- BME TehbotoL
u should put xia surf higher he deserve
TS_ChedZ [#28]
- ORDER WRONSKI
- F/A SWERL
- RGN Minimise
- BOBO signed
- BONK taxx
- RGN xsus
- FC andy
- HB Autumn
- ORDER Texta
- ORDER rDeeW
i think taxx is too low here, my personal top 10 has less order players on it
Minimise [#64]i think taxx is too low here, my personal top 10 has less order players on it
Yeah, but ORDER's the goat. I can't forego my lovies. also, shouldn't you change your flair to REIGN?
NG1nS [#60]noyn bro not this again 🤦 why br people always do this to themselves
Do what? Think a skilled player is the most skilled player in the world? Are we allowed only think that about us and emea player? Get a pill.
SnyderFan [#68]Do what? Think a skilled player is the most skilled player in the world? Are we allowed only think that about us and emea player? Get a pill.
u guys find a player and call him the best in the world like it's the most normal shit in the world
ignoring all what's happened in every single lan until now
bruh even the lan winners and MVPs we find hard time choosing who's the best between them and then u come and say this?
"aspas is the most skilled player in the world"
do you really believe that statement?
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=all&event_id=926&series_id=all®ion=all&country=all&min_rounds=0&min_rating=0&agent=all&map_id=all×pan=all
he's literally 5th on stats what makes him the most mechanically skilled player itw ?
also try to not show how butthurt u are and answer with facts for once in your life
appleju1ce [#46]GE KAPPA
GE KAPPA
GE KAPPA
GE KAPPA
GE KAPPA
GE KAPPA
GE KAPPA
GE KAPPA
GE KAPPA
GE KAPPA
the GOAT of Indian Valorant
zardinez [#50]Supaman is way to high. I'd replace him with Sayaplayer, Babybay, Xeppaa, or Ban.
True, i just think supa is just super underrated. He could rival marved for one of the best fragging controllers. Not to mention how clutch he is
YvngKurry [#78]True, i just think supa is just super underrated. He could rival marved for one of the best fragging controllers. Not to mention how clutch he is
He's good, but he's nowhere near marved yet. Marved is almost definitely the best controller in the world.
Rabbiit [#62]Xand na frente do less é uma escolha duvidosa
A movimentação do Xand com a Jett é a melhor do mundo imo, e o entry dele é excelente também, de Raze ele é muito bom
NG1nS [#60]noyn bro not this again 🤦 why br people always do this to themselves
So are you going to tell me that there is a footballer more skilled than Neymar in football today? Or that Kyrie Irving in basketball? They may not be the best overall, but they are the most fun to be entertained.
Noyn [#82]So are you going to tell me that there is a footballer more skilled than Neymar in football today? Or that Kyrie Irving in basketball? They may not be the best overall, but they are the most fun to be entertained.
no, i'm saying aspas is not the most skilled player
those examples doesn't have anything to do with what I said
again aspas is not neymar nor is he kyrie irving(don't watch basketball really)
there are multiple players that are more skilled than him for example jingg
do u get me mister noyn?
Noyn [#82]So are you going to tell me that there is a footballer more skilled than Neymar in football today? Or that Kyrie Irving in basketball? They may not be the best overall, but they are the most fun to be entertained.
I'd say that there are a few, not many but a few, better than Kyrie in basketball, his handling is unmatched tho
pengooinx [#30]sentenz
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sentenz
sentenz
sentenz
sentenz
sentenz
only based person
Gutssz [#11]1- SMB Brave
2- FF lauress
3- FF sociablee
4- BBL QutionerX
5- FB Elite
6- SMB Izzy
7- FUT qw1
8- PRL Jlerst
9- FF Sterben
10- GS Touven
where's Alfa? He's from Turkey no? or are u just doing people playing in TR?
YvngKurry [#18]
- Optic Yay
- Optic Marved
- Xset Cryo
- Faze Dicey
- C9 Leaf
- Xset Zekken
- C9 Xeta
- Faze Supaman
- SR Bdog
Where's Bang? it may be my opinion but I think he is on the same lvl as Supa, if not better.
PersonHere [#86]where's Alfa? He's from Turkey no? or are u just doing people playing in TR?
Alfajer not playing in Turkey region
YvngKurry [#18]
- Optic Yay
- Optic Marved
- Xset Cryo
- Faze Dicey
- C9 Leaf
- Xset Zekken
- C9 Xeta
- Faze Supaman
- SR Bdog
Why is Xeta in your top 10?
redadidastracksuit [#90]1 Optic Yay
2 XIA sScary
3 TENZ
4 PRX forsaken
5 PRX jinggg
6 C9 Leaf
7 Xset Zekken
8 SEN SHAZ
9 Fnatic Derke
10 Liquid Sliggy
💀 I think you did it wrong
redadidastracksuit [#91]who are you?
Derke is overrated SHITMEA trash got exposed on LAN 1 fluke series win against international competition + cope + cringe + Lnatic T3 NA
number1_ScreaM_fan [#16]
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
- Liquid ScreaM
idk i would switch 2. with 5. tbh but i respect ur opinion
SigndifUr_ [#25]Anyone wanna tell me what the hype around Supa is I thought he was underperforming im probably wrong though
he was so fuvking good on rise but he's rarely showing up on faze
Moiraine [#93]ONE mention of leo in this entire thread
Wtf is wrong with yall
That’s because he sucks lol?
zardinez [#79]He's good, but he's nowhere near marved yet. Marved is almost definitely the best controller in the world.
u guys are both right tbh when he was on rise he was extremely clutch and cracked but ever since he switched to faze he became very average
babysasuke [#93]Derke is overrated SHITMEA trash got exposed on LAN 1 fluke series win against international competition + cope + cringe + Lnatic T3 NA
hey you have to agree with me always my father owns this site ill ban you
Moiraine [#93]ONE mention of leo in this entire thread
Wtf is wrong with yall
leo is trash im better than him and im silver 1
PandaZ [#89]Why is Xeta in your top 10?
Xeta is a top tier flex player. Name one player who can play that variety of agents and frag out
PersonHere [#87]Where's Bang? it may be my opinion but I think he is on the same lvl as Supa, if not better.
It could be that im biased towards faze but imo supa has been putting insane numbers since lcq last year
NG1nS [#83]no, i'm saying aspas is not the most skilled player
those examples doesn't have anything to do with what I said
again aspas is not neymar nor is he kyrie irving(don't watch basketball really)
there are multiple players that are more skilled than him for example jingg
do u get me mister noyn?
Yes, i got u, but i disagree
NG1nS [#95]u guys are both right tbh when he was on rise he was extremely clutch and cracked but ever since he switched to faze he became very average
not reall tho. Hes been fragging out whenver needed and clutch as fuck
YvngKurry [#101]not reall tho. Hes been fragging out whenver needed and clutch as fuck
hmmm i mean that's what i saw with my eyes so
YvngKurry [#98]Xeta is a top tier flex player. Name one player who can play that variety of agents and frag out
none
NG1nS [#103]hmmm i mean that's what i saw with my eyes so
when ur watching players like marved, melser, suygetsu, shao etc supa seems average but imo hes really good
YvngKurry [#106]when ur watching players like marved, melser, suygetsu, shao etc supa seems average but imo hes really good
yeah but what i'm saying is when he used to play for rise he genuinely looked like sscary, marved, mindfreak etc
he looked insane, bur nowadays u don't really notice his impact when faze plays
YvngKurry [#98]Xeta is a top tier flex player. Name one player who can play that variety of agents and frag out
FNS
zardinez [#51]Bro where tf is Yay + Marved. They're literally front runners for the two best players in their respective roles worldwide.
They are too good
YvngKurry [#98]Xeta is a top tier flex player. Name one player who can play that variety of agents and frag out
Variety of agents? He mainly plays sova and breach, that's an initiator not a flex player
Tsarcasm11 [#14]
- PRX f0rsaken
- PRX jinggg
- ONC monyet
- ONC Lmemore
- TS dubstep
- XIA Surf
- PRX Mindfreak
- XIA sScary
- TS jremy
- BME TehbotoL
I think bleed Maxie should be in this list tho.
Gutssz [#11]1- SMB Brave
2- FF lauress
3- FF sociablee
4- BBL QutionerX
5- FB Elite
6- SMB Izzy
7- FUT qw1
8- PRL Jlerst
9- FF Sterben
10- GS Touven
agreed with this, maybe i can replace burzy with touven