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Wardell is delusional

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#1
Shownu

If he is so smart and others are braindead why is he still "looking for org". TSM even though they didn't make playoffs look really good.

Clearly, teams aren't looking to entertain a selfish, one-dimensional player that cannot be bothered to sacrifice a little bit of comfort for team unity and bootcamp.

If you watched V1 qualifiers, he was terrible on anything not Chamber and this is the same guy undermining other teams and players.

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https://imgur.com/a/MRpnFwK

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FlyDoggoWoweeClap
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Crayzid [#2]

https://imgur.com/a/MRpnFwK

LMAOOOOOOO

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Shownu
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Crayzid [#2]

https://imgur.com/a/MRpnFwK

I may call NA shit but I would never call the players braindead because they grind a lot to play in tier 1 regardless of whether they do good or bad thats up for debate.

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Shownu [#4]

I may call NA shit but I would never call the players braindead because they grind a lot to play in tier 1 regardless of whether they do good or bad thats up for debate.

You think he acually meant braindead when using that term? He obviously meant bad like you do for your baits shownu.
Being a lil hypocritical here bruv. Crayzids comment fitting perfectly here ngl

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JustEnjoying [#5]

You think he acually meant braindead when using that term? He obviously meant bad like you do for your baits shownu.
Being a lil hypocritical here bruv. Crayzids comment fitting perfectly here ngl

Bri ish 🦷🦷🦷

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enri
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Crayzid [#2]

https://imgur.com/a/MRpnFwK

It's because he is playing from NA
Obviously he is disrespecting his own region

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kazu_to
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you act like all pro players dont talk shit about each other, literally everyone talks shit about each other you think in the entire PRO GAMING community no one talks shit about each other LMFAOO

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patuj
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Who cares? Anyone can say whatever they want in private (outside of some obvious problematic things). And he really isn't wrong either. Most teams are shit compared to what they could be in few years. For example when you compare CS and Valorant, CSGO teams and players are way more perfected and same will happen in Valorant after some time. And his point about skill cap isn't completely wrong either.

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kazu_to [#8]

you act like all pro players dont talk shit about each other, literally everyone talks shit about each other you think in the entire PRO GAMING community no one talks shit about each other LMFAOO

this is mostly a NA behavior tbh.
Without the drama there would be no content for the 12 hours streaming

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CanadianLegend
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Jess Goat Replies tho are 🐐

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vnvodich
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He's entitled to his opinion. A lot of NA CS players probably think the same way just not publicly

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George is just annoying AF. Who cares what he said about a game in a private conversation. Stew probably thinks val takes no skill cz he comes from t1 CS and Wardell is just feeding into his ego. Also. you have to take into account that Wardell must be really frustrated with how his career is going so in his head he intuitively makes about the game and the NA scene rather than his own issue. Normal human behavior.

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vnvodich [#12]

He's entitled to his opinion. A lot of NA CS players probably think the same way just not publicly

Yeah, most NA pros are cs pros so most people think the way it is more than people actually know

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when franchising happens and teams get shuffled around, the only NA chambers that should be guaranteed a team are Yay, Wardell, and Cryo. Those are the only consistent talents. He’ll be back if he wants.

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kazu_to [#8]

you act like all pro players dont talk shit about each other, literally everyone talks shit about each other you think in the entire PRO GAMING community no one talks shit about each other LMFAOO

but it is funny because it is coming from a washed op andy

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why no one talked when vanity on stream called na shit region that doesnt scrim and their pros lack simple fundamentals ( it was a 100t wathcparty), why we target wardell for a leaked dm that its not our bussiness to see

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juno_VLR [#15]

when franchising happens and teams get shuffled around, the only NA chambers that should be guaranteed a team are Yay, Wardell, and Cryo. Those are the only consistent talents. He’ll be back if he wants.

yay and cryo are far more complete of a players than wardell , but wardell is way way bettr oper , he is number1 oper na imo

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UnrivaleD [#17]

why no one talked when vanity on stream called na shit region that doesnt scrim and their pros lack simple fundamentals ( it was a 100t wathcparty), why we target wardell for a leaked dm that its not our bussiness to see

because the one talking rn are the washed player, not the good one i guess, idk

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ItsMeDio [#19]

because the one talking rn are the washed player, not the good one i guess, idk

i mean wardell is fine player , look how he subbed for v1 and he played really good on multiple roles and they were 2 rounds away from qualifying , and when v1 took second qualifier without him they looked significantly worst

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JustEnjoying [#5]

You think he acually meant braindead when using that term? He obviously meant bad like you do for your baits shownu.
Being a lil hypocritical here bruv. Crayzids comment fitting perfectly here ngl

lol was about to say the same

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Shownu [#4]

I may call NA shit but I would never call the players braindead because they grind a lot to play in tier 1 regardless of whether they do good or bad thats up for debate.

If he is so smart and others are braindead why is he still "looking for org". TSM even though they didn't make playoffs look really good.

Clearly, teams aren't looking to entertain a selfish, one-dimensional player that cannot be bothered to sacrifice a little bit of comfort for team unity and bootcamp.

If you watched V1 qualifiers, he was terrible on anything not Chamber and this is the same guy undermining other teams and players.

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UnrivaleD [#17]

why no one talked when vanity on stream called na shit region that doesnt scrim and their pros lack simple fundamentals ( it was a 100t wathcparty), why we target wardell for a leaked dm that its not our bussiness to see

because wardell is ass and talking shit while vanity is not

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SaltyMcNulty [#13]

George is just annoying AF. Who cares what he said about a game in a private conversation. Stew probably thinks val takes no skill cz he comes from t1 CS and Wardell is just feeding into his ego. Also. you have to take into account that Wardell must be really frustrated with how his career is going so in his head he intuitively makes about the game and the NA scene rather than his own issue. Normal human behavior.

It's just normal and people say he is a bad player this that. Truth is Wardell isn't a bad player he is one of NA's best OPers and improved his rifling signigicantly. But what brings him down is his inability to adapt and his mindset is what dragged him down but yah the statement is just..nevermind happens always in NA

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SaltyMcNulty [#13]

George is just annoying AF. Who cares what he said about a game in a private conversation. Stew probably thinks val takes no skill cz he comes from t1 CS and Wardell is just feeding into his ego. Also. you have to take into account that Wardell must be really frustrated with how his career is going so in his head he intuitively makes about the game and the NA scene rather than his own issue. Normal human behavior.

T1 NA CS**
everyone know T1 NA CS is equal to T3 or below on EU/CIS

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Pixsy [#22]

If he is so smart and others are braindead why is he still "looking for org". TSM even though they didn't make playoffs look really good.

Clearly, teams aren't looking to entertain a selfish, one-dimensional player that cannot be bothered to sacrifice a little bit of comfort for team unity and bootcamp.

If you watched V1 qualifiers, he was terrible on anything not Chamber and this is the same guy undermining other teams and players.

That just sounds like yay to me

He pretty much only played Chamber and look at where Optic is rn

One dimensional isn't bad as long you're great at that dimension and if your team needs it. TSM didn't need it, but optic does(hence why they have yay)

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kazu_to [#8]

you act like all pro players dont talk shit about each other, literally everyone talks shit about each other you think in the entire PRO GAMING community no one talks shit about each other LMFAOO

he isnt a pro. he is some egotistical nobody, who got dropped even though he was a big streamer and could click on peoples waist while scoping in. he himself is one of those braindead teammates he is talking about in NA

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Rebellion2408 [#24]

It's just normal and people say he is a bad player this that. Truth is Wardell isn't a bad player he is one of NA's best OPers and improved his rifling signigicantly. But what brings him down is his inability to adapt and his mindset is what dragged him down but yah the statement is just..nevermind happens always in NA

yeah , and valorant is a game that requires that. it isnt just mostly aim and some strategy. it is mostly strategy with aim , which wardell cant do

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symbols07 [#28]

yeah , and valorant is a game that requires that. it isnt just mostly aim and some strategy. it is mostly strategy with aim , which wardell cant do

Wardell's role isn't strategy alone but what I do criticise him for is his poor agent pool could say very very poor. He is basically a one trick Chamber and can't play anything except Chamber. Unless he widens his pool, he can't be taken into a team

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UnrivaleD [#17]

why no one talked when vanity on stream called na shit region that doesnt scrim and their pros lack simple fundamentals ( it was a 100t wathcparty), why we target wardell for a leaked dm that its not our bussiness to see

because two faced users

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babysasuke
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Wardell is the best opper in the world and he's never wrong

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number1_MIBR_hater [#10]

this is mostly a NA behavior tbh.
Without the drama there would be no content for the 12 hours streaming

Nah I guarantee this happens all over, the NA ones just blow up more.

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he didnt go to the team house because he didn't see potential in tsm

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Valholl7
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George Geddes seems like a mf who didn't recieve enough attention as a child

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if this game takes no skill and everyone is braindead why don't they make an org with players of their liking and win VCT champions since its so easy

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TwinFM
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every valorant player coping and thinking they're not braindead kekw

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BetaSahara [#26]

That just sounds like yay to me

He pretty much only played Chamber and look at where Optic is rn

One dimensional isn't bad as long you're great at that dimension and if your team needs it. TSM didn't need it, but optic does(hence why they have yay)

the difference is that yay doesnt have an ego and is actually good

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UnrivaleD [#18]

yay and cryo are far more complete of a players than wardell , but wardell is way way bettr oper , he is number1 oper na imo

i won't argue with the complete player part. he's improved with rifling but still not the same. he is an awper after all, and awping is easier and less frequent in valorant, which is why i kinda want him to go back to csgo. NA needs him.

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ItsMeDio [#19]

because the one talking rn are the washed player, not the good one i guess, idk

vanity is at his peak now, eh? sure would hate to see his lows lol.

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CanadianLegend [#11]

Jess Goat Replies tho are 🐐

literally the only sane person with sane takes on this topic I swear

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Rebellion2408 [#29]

Wardell's role isn't strategy alone but what I do criticise him for is his poor agent pool could say very very poor. He is basically a one trick Chamber and can't play anything except Chamber. Unless he widens his pool, he can't be taken into a team

he played sage for v1, showing he's more than willing to adapt
but why wouldn't you make an op main a chamber main? it makes the most sense. yay only plays chamber for optic. he could probably play other things too, but chamber is where he gets the most value and thus optic wants him chamber only.

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pig7128423 [#40]

he played sage for v1, showing he's more than willing to adapt
but why wouldn't you make an op main a chamber main? it makes the most sense. yay only plays chamber for optic. he could probably play other things too, but chamber is where he gets the most value and thus optic wants him chamber only.

old TSM he use op sage too

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HaSanity
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Crayzid [#2]

https://imgur.com/a/MRpnFwK

the second one is shittalk, no one cares about that.

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peppreish
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UnrivaleD [#20]

i mean wardell is fine player , look how he subbed for v1 and he played really good on multiple roles and they were 2 rounds away from qualifying , and when v1 took second qualifier without him they looked significantly worst

i agree with ur first part, but the reason they looked significantly worse was because wippie legit couldn't play the game for a month lol

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pig7128423 [#40]

he played sage for v1, showing he's more than willing to adapt
but why wouldn't you make an op main a chamber main? it makes the most sense. yay only plays chamber for optic. he could probably play other things too, but chamber is where he gets the most value and thus optic wants him chamber only.

True he already plays Sage on Ascent when he was with TSM i.e 2021. And see I agree with your arguement definitely he should be the Chamber and the fact is yes he is a really good Chamber. What I feel is it depends on what role the team wants to put him and how he is going to adapt. Am not saying he should adapt to smokes. But at current in this meta he should be Chamber you're right. I couldn't argue after the Optic example is shown.

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KillFeed
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Wardell never said he's smart

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BetaSahara [#26]

That just sounds like yay to me

He pretty much only played Chamber and look at where Optic is rn

One dimensional isn't bad as long you're great at that dimension and if your team needs it. TSM didn't need it, but optic does(hence why they have yay)

Yay can also play jett really well without constantly baiting and oping

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Shownu
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JustEnjoying [#5]

You think he acually meant braindead when using that term? He obviously meant bad like you do for your baits shownu.
Being a lil hypocritical here bruv. Crayzids comment fitting perfectly here ngl

I say it openly, this was a leaked private chat, you are most honest in private so yes I do believe he believes what he typed.

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Rebellion2408 [#24]

It's just normal and people say he is a bad player this that. Truth is Wardell isn't a bad player he is one of NA's best OPers and improved his rifling signigicantly. But what brings him down is his inability to adapt and his mindset is what dragged him down but yah the statement is just..nevermind happens always in NA

AUGGGGGGGGHHHH

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Barss
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Do you do anything else with your life outsider of vlr?

#50
Shownu
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Barss [#49]

Do you do anything else with your life outsider of vlr?

I just finished an 8 hour shift but you never knew.

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babysasuke
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Shownu [#50]

I just finished an 8 hour shift but you never knew.

doing what

#51
Shownu
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babysasuke [#52]

doing what

Barista

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babysasuke
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Shownu [#51]

Barista

starbucks?

#52
Shownu
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babysasuke [#54]

starbucks?

No, local shop but £10 per hour so can't complain.

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juno_VLR [#38]

vanity is at his peak now, eh? sure would hate to see his lows lol.

still higher than wardell would ever be. the kids ego is through the roof. although i do agree with him when he said it was private conversation. tbh george is taking this way out proportion. i mean ITS A FUCKING PRIVATE CONVERSATION, mind you, it DOES NOT IN ANY WAY affect anyone negative. in any way. like its so fucking mild. its not racist, homophobic, or in anyway shittalking any specific person. its about them as a whole. its so fucking mild george is sensitive af for bringing shit up about it.

the thing i most dislike about it is how george is picking on wardell when hes at his lowest, or when "hes exposed". its like beating a dead dog down. hes hypocritical af and dare i say what would happen to him if he got caught with the most insignificant thing in the world. like he thinks hes on a pedestal or some shit .

COMING BACK TO vanity, vanity meant it not in a degrading way but a way to uplift NA, wanting the region. to improve, theres no other reason why he would say this in public.

george just seems like a person whos never had friends before, or someone whos never had a relation with a person the makes mistakes, mild ones at that. seems like he has a hate agenda. idgaf what wardell said, even if hes wrong imo but george is in the wrong to actually shed a light on that shit LIKE HES GOD or something.

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babysasuke
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Shownu [#52]

No, local shop but £10 per hour so can't complain.

get your bag brother

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Rebellion2408 [#44]

True he already plays Sage on Ascent when he was with TSM i.e 2021. And see I agree with your arguement definitely he should be the Chamber and the fact is yes he is a really good Chamber. What I feel is it depends on what role the team wants to put him and how he is going to adapt. Am not saying he should adapt to smokes. But at current in this meta he should be Chamber you're right. I couldn't argue after the Optic example is shown.

yep gotchu, should be interesting to see what happens to people like yay dicey and wardell after chamber gets nerfed

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rent free

#56
Sk00d
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honestly screw that guy, he is as irrelevant as ever and it'd be best if it stayed that way.

so i'd say - ignore him and his stupid takes. same goes for stewie.

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swf
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Shownu [#52]

No, local shop but £10 per hour so can't complain.

bro you bengali loser, you live on vlr bozo

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KyLZi
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Sk00d [#56]

honestly screw that guy, he is as irrelevant as ever and it'd be best if it stayed that way.

so i'd say - ignore him and his stupid takes. same goes for stewie.

I like it

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Shownu
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swf [#57]

bro you bengali loser, you live on vlr bozo

? mad?

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UnrivaleD
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peppreish [#43]

i agree with ur first part, but the reason they looked significantly worse was because wippie legit couldn't play the game for a month lol

i mean if wippie couldnt play for a month , same for wardell he didint compete for months and then subbed in and played good, dont get me wrong im not saying he is the best player but he is really good, and as you said his rifling has improved which means he fixed his problem of being a one dimentional op player

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peppreish
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UnrivaleD [#60]

i mean if wippie couldnt play for a month , same for wardell he didint compete for months and then subbed in and played good, dont get me wrong im not saying he is the best player but he is really good, and as you said his rifling has improved which means he fixed his problem of being a one dimentional op player

no as in wippie literally couldn't touch the game for a month lol that is way different from not competing in a pro match for months. he literally couldn't hit shots since it was his first game back even touching his pc in 30+ days

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