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TmhariMummy [#2]Best team in the world atm
I would say maybe, we definitely haven't peaked yet, a lot more to clean up according to Coach Mini
Shownu [#5]Winners of Master 2 Copenhagen
Woah u been to the future? Mind letting me know some good lotto numbers? :]
qwertyiop [#11]liquid > fnatic
El Classico Rivalry, hopefully we get to see it again soon. Stage 2 Challengers was peak EMEA Valorant in terms or content for me
Glycoroldas [#10]Gonna start falling off hard as the playoffs progress. Such is the fnatic cycle
Hmm hope not, but if don't change the roster for Champions we break the cycle right?
Bo0mShell [#17]Gonna shit on everyone in Copenhagen
Better or Worse than the iconic Sentinels Reykjavik 2021 run?
Glaciate05 [#16]Hmm hope not, but if don't change the roster for Champions we break the cycle right?
Hopefully this time it's different and the pattern is broken
Glaciate05 [#19]Better or Worse than the iconic Sentinels Reykjavik 2021 run?
its possible that they just do better
Glaciate05 [#19]Better or Worse than the iconic Sentinels Reykjavik 2021 run?
Cant say. All depends on Mistic's individual gameplay and Boaster's IGLing
bambamskrrt [#20]best emea team, im a huge alfajer fan
It's his birthday today! GO wish him if you haven't already: https://twitter.com/Alfajervl/status/1535003810208309248?s=20&t=ovV6aEWhRdQFQnSpvcqV5w
Elcatsu [#25]Overrated team. Let's see them get rolled at masters again
You really don't think they will do better than last Masters, the team has levelled up.
You clearly think they are good enough to get to Copenhagen at least so mind elaborating?
Glaciate05 [#27]You really don't think they will do better than last Masters, the team has levelled up.
You clearly think they are good enough to get to Copenhagen at least so mind elaborating?
There's a word called "choke"
Bo0mShell [#24]Cant say. All depends on Mistic's individual gameplay and Boaster's IGLing
Boaster's IGLing is something I trust in.
Here are some real fair concerns I believe we need to work on:
- Mistic adjusting fully to the new role
- Alfajer getting comfortable at his first LAN event!
- Building on the team synergy and communication with the new additions.
However, Enzo and Alfajer are duoing ranked a lot and are building fantastic synergy. Not to mention Mistic is a very flexible and talented player with great coaching and support to help him.
So regardless, I am very excited about our upcoming performance!
Elcatsu [#28]There's a word called "choke"
Is that an intuition-based thought or based on the past?
Bad circumstances have greatly affected many of our previous losses.
However, I do believe Fnatic Vs. Sentinels at M1 2021 and Kru at Champions, are two games I felt we lost despite being winnable or closer fought. Again though these were very high-tier opponents. So random choking isn't something we have a history of in matches.
I think your take is a little unfair. Open to other opinions though.
meyournightmare [#29]best team in the world
We could be no. 1 in VLR rankings by the end of the Challengers 2 playoffs if things go well!
Would be so satisfying to see, as we have never been higher than 4th.
Glycoroldas [#21]Hopefully this time it's different and the pattern is broken
PLS BOASTER DESERVES A TROPHY (人´口`)
Glaciate05 [#32]We could be no. 1 in VLR rankings by the end of the Challengers 2 playoffs if things go well!
Would be so satisfying to see, as we have never been higher than 4th.
weren't they at the top after reykjavik 2021?
wewZ [#23]its possible that they just do better
Idkkkk not dropping a map was something SPECIAL, but Alfajer feels like he could have that TenZ effect Sentinels got last year
uprisingrival [#13]braindead take
I wouldn't say it's braindead (let's avoid the toxicity), anything could happen. Imagine someone said Fnatic < Kru, before Champs, you would have laughed them out the room.
Crystalzer0 [#35]weren't they at the top after reykjavik 2021?
Unfortunately not, we peaked post Champions at 4th
- Just before the start of M1 2021: https://www.vlr.gg/rankings/europe/23/vct-stage-2-3
- 12 days after M1 2021: https://www.vlr.gg/rankings/europe/16/vct-stage-3-1
- Our peak Post Champs: https://www.vlr.gg/rankings/europe/115/vct-champions
FlyDoggoWoweeClap [#38]BOASTER A LUCKY MAN FOR DATING YINSU >:(
Such a great couple, they're both so lucky! Hope I can find something like that someday ;-;
Glycoroldas [#10]Gonna start falling off hard as the playoffs progress. Such is the fnatic cycle
They literally never choked, i don't understand why people keep saying this
Valgod [#41]They literally never choked, i don't understand why people keep saying this
It's probably just leftover trauma from previous tournaments where people think they choked coz Fnatic didn't win, for games when they thought Fnatic had it in the bag.
However, we are definitely one of the most clutch teams on the planet!
The last time we lost and I thought the winner wasn't the better team was in Challengers 3 to qualify for Berlin, we lost to like Alliance and some random tier 2/3 teams. I never understood what happenned.
Glaciate05 [#39]Unfortunately not, we peaked post Champions at 4th
- Just before the start of M1 2021: https://www.vlr.gg/rankings/europe/23/vct-stage-2-3
- 12 days after M1 2021: https://www.vlr.gg/rankings/europe/16/vct-stage-3-1
- Our peak Post Champs: https://www.vlr.gg/rankings/europe/115/vct-champions
Oh ok, didn't remember gambit to be that dominant back then :o
trembolonaRage [#43]Lost to xand's team
Well I mean NIP might not make it this time, the 2nd seed competition in LATAM/BR is very high.
Also new Fnatic this time
HaSanity [#45]Worst team in the world. Wont win anything.
Ah trying to battle the Jinx, in that case yeah I hope we lose every map.
hellohello139 [#46]Can we just skip to the part where they win Masters 2 Copenhagen?
"First team in, last team out" - Boaster
zardinez [#49]They are phenomenal but I’m calling it: they face EG in masters and lose then make a lower bracket run
No belief in the Guard to make it to Copenhagen ;-;
elayaCL [#55]Fnatic Bolt good mouse
Side buttons a are lil tacky, to press I like it but I'm happy sticking to my G Pro Wireless
Tobee [#48]fantic :)
Fun fact: in Russian "fantic" translates to "candy wrapper" - according to some twitter guy
Glaciate05 [#58]Side buttons a are lil tacky, to press I like it but I'm happy sticking to my G Pro Wireless
In fact i don't own the Bolt :( saw some reviews and it was the first thing it came to mind when i saw the thread title. I'm sticking with my G305 for about two years <3
Haven't really tested fnatic peripherals yet...
elayaCL [#61]In fact i don't own the Bolt :( saw some reviews and it was the first thing it came to mind when i saw the thread title. I'm sticking with my G305 for about two years <3
Haven't really tested fnatic peripherals yet...
Respect the commitment to the 305, love the shape
Crystalzer0 [#44]Oh ok, didn't remember gambit to be that dominant back then :o
I think they were on a crazy win streak thanks to dominating CIS and only lost once to Fnatic in Challengers Final for Reykjavik.
TmhariMummy [#2]Best team in the world atm
Eh hard to tell especially since they went out in groups (obv the circumstances fucked em, but they still were having bad days on top of that.)
Glaciate05 [#57]No belief in the Guard to make it to Copenhagen ;-;
I really hope they do, but first they need to qualify to playoffs. I'm not jinxing it.
Mjtchell [#65]Eh hard to tell especially since they went out in groups (obv the circumstances fucked em, but they still were having bad days on top of that.)
My personal opinion is that if all things went to plan roster-wise at M1 FNC would have at least made it out of groups, putting us top 8 in the world.
Considering that we have upgraded in almost all areas as a team, I think we are now in the top 3 conversations with Loud and Optic going into Copenhagen.
Here's why:
At Reykjavik this year, as loads of people have brought up, the top 2 EMEA teams being out of it really had a massive effect on people's perception of who are the top teams in the world. I think APACs performance at M1 2022 is a little overplayed, if you think back to NUTURN at Reykjavik 2021, KR would have been a runner-up. Unsurprisingly that team disappeared off the planet of the Earth. NA and EU mostly underperformed in that tournament, the same as this year. So that removes DRX PRX ZETA from the Top 8 conversation for me. G2 is gone and the rest of EMEA is worse than Fnatic, so say both NA teams are top 4 in the world, which has never happened before.
Therefore, Fnatic is a minimum of a top 4 if not a top 3 team.
zardinez [#66]I really hope they do, but first they need to qualify to playoffs. I'm not jinxing it.
Uh oh... well at least they got a confirmed shot at LCQ for Champs.
Glaciate05 [#68]Uh oh... well at least they got a confirmed shot at LCQ for Champs.
Yeah exactly, and since the org is so big I'm pretty sure we'll see them in franchising. Really hoping for a great LCQ run but against a resurgent C9, plus anyone who gets out in playoffs, it's gonna be tough.
Glaciate05 [#8]Safe bet for copenhagen?
i'd say so. Boaster wants to lift a trophy so bad. He's genuinely passionate about the game
avepalto [#70]i'd say so. Boaster wants to lift a trophy so bad. He's genuinely passionate about the game
The hard work has to pay off
zardinez [#69]Yeah exactly, and since the org is so big I'm pretty sure we'll see them in franchising. Really hoping for a great LCQ run but against a resurgent C9, plus anyone who gets out in playoffs, it's gonna be tough.
The tough part is there is only one spot, but it means that any team that does go will be competitive at Champions
Glaciate05 [#7]I would say maybe, we definitely haven't peaked yet, a lot more to clean up according to Coach Mini
You're not part of the team.
Glaciate05 [#60]Fun fact: in Russian "fantic" translates to "candy wrapper" - according to some twitter guy
True
Glaciate05 [#72]The tough part is there is only one spot, but it means that any team that does go will be competitive at Champions
Oh yes I’m very happy about NA in general rn. I think it’s the most competitive region at the moment especially since it only gets two spots and has arguably 8-9 super high level teams
hekzy [#74]You're not part of the team.
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Firstly my use of 'we' in that context is a figure of speech, obviously.
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Secondly, I am sub-quoting an interview with Enzo where he said something similar to YInsu and the rest of the EMEA desk last week, as well as the fact it was repeated by coach MiNi during his interview, they are definitely "part of the team".
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Thirdly stop baiting with boring useless comments...
fadezis [#75]True
Are you confident about today's match between TL vs FPX, I am not sure who is gonna win, probably would bet on FPX if I had to guess.
zardinez [#76]Oh yes I’m very happy about NA in general rn. I think it’s the most competitive region at the moment especially since it only gets two spots and has arguably 8-9 super high level teams
I would say it's 5 with Copenhagen winning potential right now, since there is like no time left almost:
- Optic
- 100T
- EG
- LG
- Maybe Faze
Glaciate05 [#79]I would say it's 5 with Copenhagen winning potential right now, since there is like no time left almost:
- Optic
- 100T
- EG
- LG
- Maybe Faze
I’d say: Optic, EG, 100T, Faze, and to a lesser extent, XSET and Ghost could all make runs. Put a lot more faith in Optic, EG, and 100T tho.
zardinez [#82]I’d say: Optic, EG, 100T, Faze, and to a lesser extent, XSET and Ghost could all make runs. Put a lot more faith in Optic, EG, and 100T tho.
I FORGOT ABOUT XSET, but 100% agree with that top 3
Glaciate05 [#83]I FORGOT ABOUT XSET, but 100% agree with that top 3
I do think in a head to head fnatic beats all of them the majority of the time but it’s definitely not a guarantee (esp against a fully fired up optic)
Glaciate05 [#78]Are you confident about today's match between TL vs FPX, I am not sure who is gonna win, probably would bet on FPX if I had to guess.
FPX takes it.
Glaciate05 [#67]My personal opinion is that if all things went to plan roster-wise at M1 FNC would have at least made it out of groups, putting us top 8 in the world.
Considering that we have upgraded in almost all areas as a team, I think we are now in the top 3 conversations with Loud and Optic going into Copenhagen.Here's why:
At Reykjavik this year, as loads of people have brought up, the top 2 EMEA teams being out of it really had a massive effect on people's perception of who are the top teams in the world. I think APACs performance at M1 2022 is a little overplayed, if you think back to NUTURN at Reykjavik 2021, KR would have been a runner-up.Unsurprisingly that team disappeared off the planet of the Earth.NA and EU mostly underperformed in that tournament, the same as this year. So that removes DRX PRX ZETA from the Top 8 conversation for me. G2 is gone and the rest of EMEA is worse than Fnatic, so say both NA teams are top 4 in the world, which has never happened before.
Therefore, Fnatic is a minimum of a top 4 if not a top 3 team.
tldr but i agree
zardinez [#85]I do think in a head to head fnatic beats all of them the majority of the time but it’s definitely not a guarantee (esp against a fully fired up optic)
Boaster and Derke, have both shown what LANimals they are. I am confident about this team is going to win it.
Like you said though, there are big threats that could also win it out.
Glaciate05 [#12]Woah u been to the future? Mind letting me know some good lotto numbers? :]
Yeah i need them
archetype [#87]FPX takes it.
Probably, but I kinda wanna see Liquid vs Fnatic, it's such a great rivalry
WaffleXt [#88]tldr but i agree
lol fair, I tried to bold the important stuff, I wrote and I was like uhhhhhh this is kind of long
Imagine Fnatic vs Optic. Both teams playing at their absolute best. Optics Iceland form and Fnatics current form.
Yay vs. Derke
Marved vs. Mistic
Viktor vs. Alfajer
FNS vs. Boaster
Crashies vs. Enzo
Chet vs. Mini
I LOSTTTTTT
Gonna be honest, I think Fnatic would have edged them out but would still be very close.
JustEnjoying [#94]Imagine Fnatic vs Optic. Both teams playing at their absolute best. Optics Iceland form and Fnatics current form.
Yay vs. Derke
Marved vs. Mistic
Viktor vs. Alfajer
FNS vs. Boaster
Crashies vs. Enzo
Chet vs. MiniI LOSTTTTTT
Gonna be honest, I think Fnatic would have edged them out but would still be very close.
Chet Vs. Mini... Yoooooooooo that's acc hype
Glaciate05 [#77]
Firstly my use of 'we' in that context is a figure of speech, obviously.
Secondly, I am sub-quoting an interview with Enzo where he said something similar to YInsu and the rest of the EMEA desk last week, as well as the fact it was repeated by coach MiNi during his interview, they are definitely "part of the team".
Thirdly stop baiting with boring useless comments...
W reply
Glaciate05 [#91]Probably, but I kinda wanna see Liquid vs Fnatic, it's such a great rivalry
FPX vs Fnatic more iconic rivalry (in my opinion) from times when Fnatic was SUMN
Like Boaster strats vs Ange1 strats
Johnny33 [#98]FPX vs Fnatic more iconic rivalry (in my opinion) from times when Fnatic was SUMN
Like Boaster strats vs Ange1 strats
true but I have British bias
Johnny33 [#100]Well, right now it's only Soulcas in TL
Yeah ur right Sliggy and Link GONE ;-; they did em wrong fr
Glaciate05 [#77]
Firstly my use of 'we' in that context is a figure of speech, obviously.
Secondly, I am sub-quoting an interview with Enzo where he said something similar to YInsu and the rest of the EMEA desk last week, as well as the fact it was repeated by coach MiNi during his interview, they are definitely "part of the team".
Thirdly stop baiting with boring useless comments...
sub-quoting works with " "
GANJAUSER [#103]FNC nAts ftw
uhhhh idk about that one mate, but Gambit did get Fnatic to Champions so sure FNATIC x M3C <3
Toxin [#102]Best Team EMEA,always gets rekt by some underrated(Zeta/Kru)/overrated(sen) team
Maybe everyone just has a bad read on team quality
- Zeta 3rd place finish
- Kru 3rd/4th place finish
- Sentinels 1st place finish
Not bad as far as teams teams to lose to go... big win at Copenhagen INCOMING
Glaciate05 [#7]I would say maybe, we definitely haven't peaked yet, a lot more to clean up according to Coach Mini
yes fnatic has peaked already.. delusional
no_noise_979 [#108]yes fnatic has peaked already.. delusional
WHEN THE ROSTER WAS MADE A MONTH AGO XD
Glaciate05 [#109]WHEN THE ROSTER WAS MADE A MONTH AGO XD
yes thats just how fnatic always are best right after roster change for honeymoon period
no_noise_979 [#110]yes thats just how fnatic always are best right after roster change for honeymoon period
So far the timeline has been identical to stage 1. It’s only now where they can change their fate.
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