RRQ is a fantastic team. I know they bombed out of Toronto, but context is important: they were extremely reliant on Tejo, so the meta shift impacted them severely, and it was their first international as a team.

Now, they showed that they can be a top level team in Pacific in a different meta and completely bounced back from Toronto. I think people are SUPER sleeping on them! I’d argue they’re top 5 across all regions rn

The RRQ disrespect is crazy

BBL with an enormous wasted opportunity vs TL, and now it costs them dearly

Ah makes sense now

Oh I assumed the list was an ordered list, no problem…. Anyways, GenG have lost to RRQ 3 straight times and RRQ did better in stage 2 by far.

We might need to start having some conversations about where Westside is ranked in EMEA because dude can SHOOT. Assuming GiantX win, I’m really excited to see how he’ll look at Champs

GenG has no business being above RRQ at this moment in time

Forgot PRX somewhere in there but RRQ is my dark horse team

C9 still at 172 is kind of sad

I don’t remember the specific scenarios last year for qualifying but I don’t think Americas’ different tiebreak rules made a difference

I’ve heard conflicting reports, but last I heard he was gonna fly in and almost immediately go play

Only seeding

PRX, RRQ, T1, G2

I hope not, I don’t want both PRX and G2 in EDG group

Probably lose in groups but I wouldn’t be shocked if they made playoffs

Stay strong, our teams have fallen on rough times but we must persist

Have I been in a coma or something because I don’t remember anyone but Sen fans ranking Sen above G2

No

Probably the least interesting, never any surprise teams winning

That’s a fair argument

…. Did you read what he said?

They’re definitely good enough to win, it’s just about players having their best games at the right times

They’d probably make playoffs

Just because they have a good matchup into PRX doesn’t mean they’re the best team… the missed out on qualifying to champs because they lost several games during stage 2. That’s like saying ZETA beating PRX 2-0 means that ZETA are the better team, despite history before and after that game proving otherwise

All of the regions have had ugly, sloppy matches. The difference is that in EMEA it’s the top 4 teams playing these “MY EYES” type games in playoffs

I definitely get your argument, I just think that if he’s as impactful to his team as people say he is, he should have some better performances on his resume. People like to say all of his old TL teams were garbage but I don’t think they were that bad either. I mean they won EMEA split in 2023 without nAts being a superstar hard carry

Yup, Alfa has also been a monster in multiple of those finals

He was excellent at Bangkok and been great in stage 2. He was only above average at best in every other split or international since kickoff, and that’s only because I didn’t keep scrolling back

nAts is criminally overrated. People argue nAts is one of the best players ever and hugely impactful, but we have no evidence of that past 2021. Very little team success and his stats are nothing special

So then what metric do we use to say how good he is? If his teams have been largely irrelevant for years (even domestically) AND his individual stats are nothing special, then what argument is there for him being such an impactful player?

I mean you could argue the other way though. The fact that he’s had no international success and failed to qualify for so many tournaments means that he might not be as impactful to his team’s success as people say he is. Also, his conventional stats are nothing to write home about

Aspas also has the advantage of being incredible statistically both internationally and domestically. nAts has been far from that

And so we should just give him 0% of the blame? It’s not like he was statistically playing that well either

Oh we got a big guy over here lmao, can’t wait to see which single EMEA team makes it out of Champs groups 👍

Arguably Tenz

Thank you someone else understands 😅

“Best team in APAC is not going to champs” yeah you definitely have no idea what you’re talking about lol

I think it might hurt for Americas playoffs because Leaf might be a little rusty, but will help for Champs

If you think this gameplay was better than top APAC, Americas, and CN teams then you straight up don’t watch other regions. Genuinely embarrassing take

nAts is way too high, clear overreaction. He has 1 trophy and it was in 2021. He’s been decent but nothing crazy since then, with no accomplishments. There’s no argument for putting him above Alfa, who has been a better and more accomplished player for 3 years

At least G2 and Sen have looked better. I’d argue BLG have looked better too

No it doesn’t?? There’s a difference between making huge individual plays vs individual players throwing

… did we watch the same game? Players often ego peeking and throwing away leads, tons of ecos, a goddamn ninja defuse, and players taking unnecessary fights to throw rounds away

It ain’t even ragebait, 2 of the 3 maps we just watched were filled with slop

nAts wasn’t the reason BBL lost, it was BBL. So many troll plays in the second half and throwing away advantages

You’re gonna get downvoted for good takes like this

Critical match for BBL to qualify and TL for seeding and they both play absolutely disgusting rounds throughout the entire series. Super entertaining but also a gallon of glue. How on earth can we expect this region to do well at Champs

Try not to overreact challenge

Instead of 0/8, use 0/4 for TH flair

It required divine intervention and numerous ridiculous occurrences for that series to even be close